Monday, December 13, 2010

One Postgame Take

In a season of Jekyll & Hyde performances, this one was neither. Rather, it was a hybrid of our best and worst performances of 2010.

First off, let's just take a moment to applaud our offense. We are averaging 24 points per game so far this season. Last year, it was 12 points per game.

Here's the mathematical analysis: Hue Jackson - Tom Cable as OC + Jason Campbell - JaMarcus Russell + A Healthy, Purposeful DMac = Twice The Offensive Output.

Anyhow, right after the game ended, I was the first to ask: Why put Boller in the shotgun on third-and-three and then fourth-and-three and have him pass the ball on both downs at a crucial juncture in the game? So I'm not surprised to see that there's a bit of a controversy surrounding that decision, with reports that Cable was miffed at Jackson for the playcalling. Well, why shouldn't he be miffed?

Equally perplexing was the last play of the game, when Campbell threw the ball to Ford at the 22-yard line in the final seconds. WHAT IS THE POINT? Three weeks ago, the Jaguars won a game on a Hail Mary pass on this very same turf, showing yet again why you never give up, and why you alway put yourself in a position to win. Yet we're throwing the ball 20 yards short of the end zone with no time left? WHAT IS THE POINT? Why even take a snap if you're going to do that? Shouldn't the receivers be, I don't know, in the END ZONE with no time left? Why do I feel like I'm the only one OUTRAGED by this utter lack of competitive awareness? You fight tooth-and-nail for 59 minutes, then toss the ball for 16 yards when you need 39? As the kids are fond of texting these days: WTF? Indeed, WTF!!!!???

You can say all you want about how this game was lost on defense and special teams. I suppose it was. But we had ample opportunity to win this game, and we didn't. It was a classic case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and in the process we probably lost a winnable division race by the slimmist of margins. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

130 Comments:

Blogger Calico Jack said...

Sorry RT but I beg to differ.

Putting the last play of the game in the cross-hairs when Campbell was under duress instead of where it should be placed properly is well ... outrageous.

I get the intent and thrust of your post but it never should have come down to the last play of a 60:00 game. It seems rather silly to be putting the last play and Boller's 3-3 and 4-3 placalls under the microscope.

In my judgment, the Raiders didn't make the Jaquars work hard enough for this victory. 28 points scored on a whopping grand total of 13, yes 13, plays says it all. Giving your opponent a short field to operate due to ST miscues is horrendous. Allowing your opponent's 3rd string RB and no name WR burn you for 76 yard and 46 yard TDs respectively is the death blow.

Yes, I would have loved to seen Campbell chuck up a 46 yard pass into the end zone for 1 last hail mary attempt. However, at the end of the day, the defense and special teams didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Placing the blame and 'outrage' on the OC or Campbell after the unit racked up 31 points seems rather lame.

10:31 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

The Jekyll and Hyde syndrome is prolly common with all young teams with new QBs.

The defense has laid an egg though 3 of the last 4 weeks... so something has to be amiss.

I'm more open to a new DC than replacing Cable or Stu... the offense keeps improving while the defense goes backwards.

If the defense rises to the occasion and we win the last 3, I'd give Marshall another year... if they keep stinking and the offense keeps scoring... I'm done with him.

10:36 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

I agree to a point, CJ. But what is the definition of a "Hail Mary?"

We all know it, and we all know when it's necessary. It doesn't really matter what got you to that point. What matters is, when you are at that point, do you call the ONLY play that gives you a chance to win or...another play that gives you NO chance to win?

Ask the Jaguars, who won on a Hail Mary three weeks ago.

They didn't say, well, it never should have come to this, so why bother with calling the only play that give us a chance to win now?

To think like that is INSANE! Why do I feel alone in this?

10:41 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Giving your opponent a short field to operate due to ST miscues is horrendous.
>>>>>

I've mentioned this over the years with Jano... he obviously has the leg to put the ball in the endzone at will... why doesn't he simply do it every time and have them start at the 20?

I think its the moronic STs coaches being greedy and trying to pin them inside the 20.

Jano had the wind to his back... why wasn't that last kickoff in the back of the endzone??? Don't tell me its his fault... he was instructed to kick try and pin them inside the 20 IMO.

10:43 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>

To think like that is INSANE! Why do I feel alone in this?
>>>

I think you are right.

Campbell is a conservative QB though... I assume he did it instinctively. Not sure I blame the coaching staff on this without more information (if that is what you are doing).

10:47 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

I guess that's what I'm doing...I mean, what is Ford doing at the 22 yard line? Say what you want, but the guy has shown a penchant for amazing grabs. Shouldn't he be, I don't know, IN THE END ZONE with no time left?

Are the Special Teams and Defense accountable? Of course. But so is our coaching staff. Just because a unit fails (ST and defense), that doesn't give another (coaching) a pass. See Boller and last play of the game.

10:53 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Why do I feel alone in this?"

There's ONLY one play in that situation, and the Raiders didn't use it.

Apparently, there's a fine line being drawn here between miscue and bad call.

There has to be a minimum expectation in terms of playcalling and coaching that prevent something like that from happening (no wonder Cable's pissed).

If I'm Ford, I bat the final ball to the ground and hope there's still one second left on the clock to run another (the correct) play. Then I throw up my arms and say WTF?

5:30 AM  
Blogger Raider Nate 75 said...

Say what you want, blame who you want; but the Raiders lost this game on all fronts. Coaching, Offense, Defense, and Special Teams.

We find ourselves in a position needing to win out from here.
We have Denver, Indy, and KC.

In order to win the Division, we need SD and KC to fall a few too.

KC are at Rams, and then home vs Titans before they play us; 2 very losable games for them, especially with Cassell out.

SD has 9ers, Bengals, and Denver. I think they can lose this Thursday, as well as in Cincy. There's a better chance they'll lose in Cincy. But here it is, they need to lose at least 1, maybe 2 of these games. Same with KC (who are set to lose all 3).

I think the most important thing for us is to reach 9-7. If we can do that, then we win the division (unless SD goes 10-6).

8:04 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>
Raider Nate 75 said...

Say what you want, blame who you want; but the Raiders lost this game on all fronts. Coaching, Offense, Defense, and Special Teams.
>>>>

Uhh, offense?

31 points and 476 yards? What more did you expect?

That was a three game total in past years?

9:04 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Raiders basically need a 9-7 tie atop the AFCW. Conditions:

- Raiders win out.
- SD loses one
- KC loses one, plus to the Raiders.

I would say it looks good for KC to drop one of their next two(assuming Cassel is still out or not 100%), but the other two conditions above are not looking so good. Raiders must beat Indy, and the Chargers will need to lose to one of three bad teams left on their schedule.

Believe it or not, 8-8 is also doable, but would require face plants by both SD and KC.

9:08 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>
I would say it looks good for KC to drop one of their next two(assuming Cassel is still out or not 100%),
>>>>

Agreed.

Doctors say he SHOULD be out at least three weeks. That is if anyone in KC cares about his safety. KC is toast.


>>>
but the other two conditions above are not looking so good. Raiders must beat Indy, and the Chargers will need to lose to one of three bad teams left on their schedule.
>>>>

SD is very very very very capable of losing to suspect teams.

They've already lost to Stl, Sea, and Oak (twice.)

And Indy has lost to worse teams than Oak... the Cowboys just 2 weeks ago fer instance. Plus as I mentioned before, Manning has always struggled vs Oak.

This isn't done yet... but our defense has GOT to pull its collective head out of its ass.

10:11 AM  
Blogger Raider Nate 75 said...

Our offense is to blame because they didn't move the ball when they NEEDED too, especially with Boller at the helm. It was very clear what we needed to do on 3rd and 3, and 4th and 3; say it with me, "GIVE THE BALL TO D-MAC!" That is where the offense is to blame.

10:58 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Raider Nate 75 said...

Our offense is to blame because they didn't move the ball when they NEEDED too, especially with Boller at the helm. It was very clear what we needed to do on 3rd and 3, and 4th and 3; say it with me, "GIVE THE BALL TO D-MAC!" That is where the offense is to blame.
>>>>>

Gosh... tough crowd.

Yes, with those two plays, and Campbells 2 minute drill... the offense is to blame. Happy now?

I will finger point an offense that puts up 31 and 457 for the rest of my life please!

3:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

I get your points and will add this...

#1...Ford is a rookie 4th rd pick...He made a rookie mistake not to be close to the sidelines to get out of bounds and stop the clock...If he had we would have had another shot at the end-zone and it would have been a damn good play...

So "What If"...

#2..."JC" was the vet "QB" who made the decision to go there...It's not at the digression of a rookie "WR" to decide whether or not to catch a pass thrown his way...

#3...The coaches...Who was in anyone's ear telling them what to be aware of...

#4...This was just the failure/break-down at the end which resulted in our last gasp hope but the previous failures are what put us in that position...Ford was already the Goat with his fumble...Maybe he was trying too hard to make up for that and went Brain-Dead about the clock...He just did not have a very good day...

I wouldn't get down on him anymore than I would "DHB"-n-Murphy who have also had mental lapses this season....Reece too as I remember...Even Zack has had his Bad this year...

PantyRaider...Hero One Day Goat The Next!!!!/_

5:35 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

In the context of a 60:00 game, I find it odd to be putting so much attention to the last play and the 3-3, 4-3 calls/plays with Boller.

The only somewhat reasonable explanation for having Ford run a route to the 21 yard line is the following;

Campbell had :11 on the clock which should be enough time for 2 plays IF the WR gets out of bounds. Perhaps the call was to give Ford a chance to pick up a big chunk of yards and race to the sideline with his speed to get out of bounds. I know. This is a lame explanation and any arm-chair QB would take a shot with a "Hail Mary".

This one particular play was bad execution, bad game management, bad play calling, and bad decisions by all involved.

Regardless, the offensive unit played very well for 4 quarters with a few minor hiccups. 31 points is MORE than enough to win if the other 2 units don't gift wrap 31 points in the 2nd half.

The D played good in the 1st half but were gashed by big, back breaking plays in the 2nd half giving up 28 points in a mere 13 total plays.

The Special teams played ok in the 1st half but laid a stinky egg in the 2nd half.

By my judgment, if either the D or ST played even a decent 2nd half, the Raiders would have won handily.

That is reason why I don't understand the hand wringing when it comes to the last play and Boller 3-3, 4-3 calls.

5:55 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

I touched on it in my last post but feel it needs more clarity...

"do you call the ONLY play that gives you a chance to win or...another play that gives you NO chance to win?"

The other play would have gave us a chance if executed properly...They played deep expecting us to go there....Having Ford break it off shallower was a great call if he was on the sideline and just turned to go out of bounds but as I remember he turned inside and went for the EndZone instead....

"JC" does NOT have the great arm does he...Can he even get the ball 40+ yds down field in a swirling wind...Even if he could it's a very low percentage play to say the least...

Going for half the yardage and out of bounds to save the clock would have been a much safer and smarter play with a much higher likelihood of success...Except is was a rookie at the other end that went dumb between the ears...

Bet that doesn't happen to him again...He will learn from this one...Costly as it is...

PantyRaider...Don't Neglect That Wind...It Was Disruptive The Entire 2nd Half!!!!/_

5:56 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now "WTF" is this CRAP!!!...

How does he get allowed to play at all this year let alone travel out of state for 2 games...


Broncos’ Cox sex charges carry life sentence

the sexual assault charges are Class 3 and Class 4 felonies, which carry a sentence of between two years to life in prison. They involve a helpless victim.

Cox, who played in the Broncos’ loss to the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday, is free on $50,000 bail.

Cox could face a four-game suspension from the NFL next season for violating the league’s personal conduct code. Commissioner Roger Goodell doesn’t need for a player to be convicted to punish him.


A "Helpless Victim"..."WTF" is that...A Child...A Quadriplegic...The Elderly...A Cripple....What kind of sick "SOB" is this...

I Garen-Damn-Tee if this was a Raider the NFL would throw the freakin book at him...

This gross favoritism is just pathetic...

PantyRaider...Total MeltDown In The "MuleValley"!!!!/_

6:16 PM  
Blogger x said...

Is there such a thing as a sore winner? Del Rio is whining.

http://goo.gl/o7DYw

Are they sure the guy was a Raider fan growing up?

7:24 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Why do I continue to be a Raiders fan? Or why should I?

jerrymac:
If you have to ask, you probably aren't one.

Well that was certainly very dumb...But here are the main points that stood out to me....


What is up with our Kickers? Janikowski has kicked a huge number of knuckle balls. Lechler hasn't been great either?

jerrymac:
Some wind issues in Jacksonville. Lechler has been subpar (for him) of late. But theyr'e hardly the root cause of recent problems.


The D has been the goat of this slide, giving up 30 or more points in 3 of the last 4 games. Since Al is not likely to blame his scheme, where do you think they will look to improve personnel-wise in the offseason?

jerrymac:
A real good question because I'm guessing he likes most of his personnel. D-line talent is considerable, McClain still developing, . . . Marshall could wind up taking the fall for this because offense is much better than a year ago.


Looking towards 2011, what in your mind is the Raider's number one need? How do they go about filling it?

jerrymac:
A veteran, reliable WR, through trade or free agency.


ever since the pitt game, and even the three game winning streak before, campbell has looked solid. i want to see him qb our team next year, as you probably do too. but do we still get another qb next year, either via the draft, trades, or fa?

jerrymac:
I'd definitely bring in another QB, and I'm still not totally sold on Campbell. The whole competition thing with Gradkowski seemed to bother him too much, and he doesn't seem to adjust when things aren't going his way.


on the long td pass to jason hill, the raiders had all their safeties in the game with nnamdi and routt on the sideline... why not have one of them at corner on the single reciever? doesnt make sense?

jerrymac:
It does make sense. And the Raiders didn't do it. And they're still hearing about it.


With three game to go, the suspense is killing me. Help cool it a little for me Jerry. for this weekend, put these in order from most likely to win to least likely: Raiders, 49ers, Rams.

jerrymac:
Most likely to least likely: Raiders, Rams, 49ers.


How can anyone who watched the game sunday blame the offense for this loss? I have actually heard people blame DHB for dropping 1 of the 3 balls (that's right, he made the other 2 big catches) thrown his way--even though it was a diving attempt between 2 defenders. Its a team sport, but if it falls on anyone, it was the D and ST, right?

jerrymac:
Wasn't a dive, if memory serves, but a sideline pattern that went through his hands under tight coverage. Not an easy catch. But a catch a first-round pick and major talent can be expected to make. But to blame him over the defense and special teams is lunacy.


PantyRaider...Just Things A Agree With The "Mediot" On!!!!/_

7:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"X"....

That's really funny stuff...His team got away with constant crap that wasn't being called but he throws the "Criminal Element" Syndrome at us...

PantyRaider...Make Noise To Distract From Your Own Sins!!!!/_

7:51 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

I certainly don't mean to imply that those few plays were responsible for the loss.

They just happened to stand out to me as emblematic of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The Jags scored 31 of their points in the second half, which is horrific. That's why we lost.

Nevertheless, we dealt a nearly equal blow to the Jags' defense. Which is why it was neck and neck at the end.

Which is why we simply couldn't afford those brain farts at the coaching level.

Ford, a rookie, fumble the ball on a return. A veteran coaching staff who should know better oversees an in-bounds pass that's 22 yards short of the end zone with no time left, and calls two Boller passes at a crucial juncture when we needed three yards.

Which is more egregious and inexplicable? You know my answer.

Sometimes the adults need to set the tone. And I just don't think they did at the end.

8:08 PM  
Blogger x said...

Anyone else think they should have clocked the ball at least once on that last drive? They lost close to 30 seconds setting up for one play.

Give up the down and save the time.

8:42 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

X -

The clock management on the last drive was simply atrocious. That falls on Campbell's shoulders.
Calling 2 plays in the huddle, using sideline pass plays, spiking the football ... anything to hold on to the most precious commodity (time) is required. By my estimation, we lost 2 plays just on poor clock management.


RT -

The "Boller Blunders" is a situation where it is imperative for the coaching staff to employ the personnel in situations where (a) the unit is most likely to succeed (b) be aware of the personnel on the field and the game situation (c) and think 1 step ahead.

If you know there is a good chance of going for it on 4th (if 3rd down fails) that clearly impacts your choice of play calls on 3rd down. Further, Boller is coming in off the bench "cold". Is it fair or reasonable to expect him to execute or would you rather take your chances with more safe, conservative calls that puts the ball in the hands of McFadden to make a play? This doesn't mean we had to run 2 consecutive rushing plays ... using McFadden on a screen or Reece in space would accomplish the goal of moving the chains. As H pointed earlier, even punting on 4th (in hindsight) would have been a better option for field position.

9:05 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Exactly, better than I said it.

10:29 PM  
Blogger H said...

OK, on the Cable – Jackson feud, ain’t buying it. Cable undercutting his offensive coordinator? Ain’t buying that either. Cable’s not that devious. He’s more like a blunt force object. Just ask a guy named Hanson.

Now, let’s review that OC / play calling stuff.

When Cable took over for Kiffin, the Kif was doing the play calling. Cable didn’t want that right away, so Greg Knapp was doing that. Knapp did a poor job. After about three or four games, Cable took over the play calling. All the media said at the time it was mandated by Al Davis because he likes “a head coach that calls the plays.”

Stay with me now.

During that first offseason the media said Cable was toast. Didn’t happen. SOB was let go and Marshall, a guy Cable worked with in the past, was brought in for DC. Then a new OL coach whom Cable also worked with was hired.

The team looked at the staff and made Tresman the passing game coordinator and Cable the rushing game coordinator. Sound familiar? John Gruden called passing plays, Bill Callahan called running plays. Didn’t work out too well. But the team chemistry and attitude was undergoing major positive changes.

Russell was finally benched and it was proven the team performed better when he wasn’t under center.

Once again, Cable was toast that offseason. Wrong again.

They look at the staff again and decide they need one OC for the overall offensive game plan. Enter Hue Jackson a guy Cable worked with in the pass. But, noooooo. It was all Al Davis. Al may have conducted the longer interview and had the last say, but I guarantee the Blunt Force Object had his say. His personality wouldn’t have it any other way.

During the offseason and through camp a big deal was made about Jackson not being available for the media. What the hell is going on? For the Raiders, standard operating procedure.

The offense steadily improved throughout the season and we come to two plays where Jackson should have run the ball with the third string quarterback in the game and a major rift is being reported.

I’m sure coaches butt heads on any staff. Hell, Buddy Ryan tried to punch out Kevin Gilbride on the sidelines during a game when they were both with the Oilers. Actually landed a blow if memory serves. Most of Bilicheats ex-assistants don’t seem to get along with him very much. McDaniels didn’t seem to learn you’re not supposed to video other teams’ practices. Probably blames Bilicheat for being fired.

Bottom line. If we win two of the next three, Cable is probably back along with Jackson. If we lose all three, all bets are off. That’s life for NFL coaches. But, please, stop looking for all the black helicopters.

JMNLHSO,

H

5:24 AM  
Blogger Raider Nate 75 said...

So here's the real question. Do we try and go after Vince Young this offseason, or do we pick up a guy like Cam Newton (who has VY ability) and a vet WR?

6:15 AM  
Blogger H said...

Take,

We can talk all week about that last pass play. But, the poor coverage on special teams after we have tied the game up is what hurt the most.

The offense came back and overcame a special teams fumble and an interception that led to 10 points total. They couldn't do it a third time.

Not excusing the playcalling or execution, but they just were't able to overcome that third error.

The defense was also put into defending a lot of short fields in the game. I look at that poor coverage as the equivilent of a turnover.

JMNLHSO,

H

6:25 AM  
Blogger H said...

Nate,

No Vince Young. He seems to be turning into a head case. We just got rid of one of those.

I don't think we will be drafting in the top three which is where Newton will be going.

Unless you can see a scenario where he will fall to the mid second round which is where our first pick will be.

Offensive line, and posibly a vet WR, but concentration on the offensive line.

H

H

6:37 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"We can talk all week about that last pass play. But, the poor coverage on special teams after we have tied the game up is what hurt the most."

I guess in a 60-minute game, you have to make every play count.

Think of it this way; miscues are going to happen (it's unavoidable - although sometimes stems from bad coaching), while bad playcalling is avoidable.

Nothing to do now but learn from those mistakes and press on.

D and ST breakdowns aside, Campbell needs to be better in a two-minute offense. Way too much time was wasted Sunday, then the game ended on an impossible play.

7:32 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Ahhh so continuous on-field ineptitude just happens, but one or two coaching mistakes should never happen, are unforgivable, and are to be dwelled upon....

Glad we cleared that up!

The BIG problem is the last second play calling... not giving up 30+ points in 3 of the last 4 games!

Well, at least we aren't banging away continuously about how a highly drafted WR should be flawless!

Progress!

9:42 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Will Cable be fired if we don't win eight? Should he be fired if we don't win eight? Will you support Al Davis if he fires Cable?

9:51 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Raider Take said...

Will Cable be fired if we don't win eight?
>>>>

Depends on if Stu is offered a HC job elsewhere and Al thinks the offensive improvement is because of Stu (It isn't... its because of McFadden and anyone besides JaMoney at qb)

I don't think he will be offered a HC job elsewhere, and I don't think Al is making any changes on the offensive side of the coaching staff.

>>>
Should he be fired if we don't win eight?
>>>>

No... Marshall should be. We are losing because of DEFENSE, not offense, in general.


>>>
Will you support Al Davis if he fires Cable?
>>>>

I guess I will cross that bridge if I get to it.

Cable should get coach of the year considerations if we end up winning out.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Raider Nate 75 said...

RT, it would depend on who he replaced Cable with. If it is Hue Jackson, then no. He needs to prove himself competent in play-calling abilities (with consistency) before I give him that chance.

But since Hue is his short list, he would blame Cable for his lack of offensive play calling consistencies, and then Regular Season would prove him to be a liar; and then we are back to square one.

As for VY, I was just using him as an example. I don't think we get Mike Vick. I think we go for the drafted QB, and go after a vet WR (DeSean Jackson). With Cam Newton, we are not even in the first round of the draft unless we make a trade. But a trade wouldn't surprise me. Those names were just a few to throw out to ponder.

10:34 AM  
Blogger H said...

Correction on a previous post: The passing game coordinator was not Tresman. He’s been gone a while. It was Tollner.

“Depends on if Stu is offered a HC job elsewhere and Al thinks the offensive improvement is because of Stu (It isn't... its because of McFadden and anyone besides JaMoney at qb)”

First off who is Stu? Second, if you mean Hue, he is under contract and no team can just “offer” an HC job to him without getting permission from Big Al to conduct an interview. Third, I don’t see him even being interviewed at this point. Maybe in another year. Even the college positions are being rapidly closed. He’s already had multiple OC positions already.

At this point all I’m looking forward to is the next three games. After that we can play the Who’s on First games and issues. The play of this team is light years ahead of some of the last seven. Let’s let the dust settle first before we start talking about who will replace Cable.

H

12:44 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Ahhh so continuous on-field ineptitude just happens, but one or two coaching mistakes should never happen, are unforgivable, and are to be dwelled upon....'

"Continuous on-field ineptitude?" Is that how you see it? If that's so, then maybe that too is a product of coaching. eh?

All I'm saying is that within the context of a few plays last Sunday, the coaches (namely, Jackson) needed to be smarter.

Isn't there some football bible that explains you should never throw 20 yards short of the end zone to end a half or game when down 7 points with time expiring on that very play? Somebody forgot to tie a string around his finger on that one.

Plus, why have the coldest player on the team (a third-string QB) come in and immediately throw two consecutive incompletions on short yardage when you have one the hottest players in football ready to take the hand-off?

Those aren't miscues. Those are brain farts of epic proportion, and could have been the difference in the game.

Even if we scored 80 points, that's not a license to make bonehead mistakes when the game is on the line. It's still a team sport, even after the offense has done their job, so to speak.

12:45 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Will Cable be fired?

J-Mac pointed out that the risk of a lockout next year could alter the landscape for coaching changes. Assuming football might not start until into the season, better to hit the ground running with a coaching staff than to start fresh at midstream. A contingency plan of sorts.

I think Cable is safe even if he only wins one more. Lose out and all bets are off. He's toast.

12:51 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Those aren't miscues. Those are brain farts of epic proportion, and could have been the difference in the game.
>>>>

Only because they didn't work... which makes it even MORE head-scratching that you are dwelling on it.

If Boller had completed one of those two passes, nobody would even had remembered that series... and if Ford had stepped out of bounds with a second left... a pass in the end zone just became much more likely.

In contrast our defense has allowed 30+ points in 3 of 4 games.

You dwell on the moronic things, and I'll dwell on things of actual concern... fair enough?

3:19 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL NetWork....Eastern Time....

8:00 PM NFL REPLAY: OAK vs. JAX

Watch at

http://www.firstrow.net/sports/american-football.html

Or here but not shown on the list yet...

http://www.atdhe.net/index.html

PantyRaider....Disclaimer: Replay May be Painful -n- Cause Vomiting!!!/_

4:04 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

RaiderNate75...

I go with "VY"...


Re: Hue's play calling...

How do any of you even know what was called...The game is on RePlay....Look to see if "D-Mac" was even uncovered so he could go there....Did Kile audible...Prolley the plays that were called are the ones he runs best in Practice....You Think!!!...

Damn...Try to crucify the man without even accurate knowledge of what was going on....

Upon Further Review...If you watch the Re-Broadcast maybe something will be understood....

You saw it like me...In the heat of the moment with all that anxiety in your heads....Take a deep breath and relax with a cold one and look again objectively...

PantyRaider...NOT Objectionably!!!/_

Almost GameTime!!!!...

4:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

I hate trying to watch a game on the net...Stop go and lose footage...Sucks...

Half-Time -n- they don't show all the plays...

5:33 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

AssHoles have time to run their stupid commercials but not enough time to run all the plays...

5:38 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Their "HC" claps and says....

We got one there he's out...He's in now...Way to go"

That was a "BS" call on 3rd dn...It would have been 4th dn and a "FG" instead....

4 pts given by the "Zebra"s...

5:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Kile made a 20yd completion to Zack while being hit...Kinda a "LameDuck"...

He ran for 7yds...

Than he overthrew a receiver too high...Than he made the mistake...Int...

But lets face it...Hue did NOT throw that Int...He called the play...The "QB" failed to execute....

6:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Kile made a 20yd completion to Zack while being hit...Kinda a "LameDuck"...

He ran for 7yds...

Than he overthrew a receiver too high...Than he made the mistake...Int...

But lets face it...Hue did NOT throw that Int...He called the play...The "QB" failed to execute....

6:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"D-Mac" played one hell of a game...He was up for this one...Very physical...

18 ticks left and they sack "JC" and waste our last "TO"...Than the short pass on 3rd dn for the 1st...

11 ticks left...

I didn't get to see the last play dammit...It skipped it because of the net stutter....So I don't know how close Ford was to the side-line...Did he turn the wrong direction inside instead of out toward the sideline...

Anyone else see it...

PantyRaider....Damn Net Skip Sucks!!!/_

6:18 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

"Will Cable be fired if we don't win eight?"

Depends on the last 3 games.

If the Raiders steamroll the Donkeys, and play close competitive football in losses to Indy & KC, I say at 7-9, then no.

If we beat the Donkeys and get torched by Indy & KC, yes, it is a distinct possibility.

If we lose our last 3 AND Davis has someone immediately on deck (ie Baby Huey), then, yes.

If we lose our last 3 AND Davis doesn't have someone immediately on deck (ie Baby Huey), and the offseason drags on, Cable could be right back.

Cable does have a knack for surviving against all odds. This can be partly attributed to a healthy working relationship with Davis.

"Will you support Al Davis if he fires Cable?"

As a Raider fan, do you really have a choice? There are plenty of management decisions, player performances, coaching decisions that I haven't liked or been disappointed about but it stills comes down to supporting the TEAM collectively.

6:30 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Here it is here...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010121203/2010/REG14/raiders@jaguars#tab:watch

Last play of the game...Ford is a good 5 yds off the sideline and turns inside to go up field...

The defender was tight but Ford had room to go outside for the sideline but never tried...

Rookie mistake...After he sees it on film it will stick in his head NOT to do that again....Should have been closer to the sideline too...

Can't fault him much for this one but can for the fumbled return...

PantyRaider....Too Many Calls That Didn't Get Called!!!/_

6:31 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Although I too questioned the playcalling, which is a national "sport" of arm chair QBs, I agree with Gary's sentiment,

"If Boller had completed one of those two passes, nobody would even had remembered that series..."

As JMac has said countless times on his blog, it (more times than not) isn't a matter of the playcall itself but the execution of the call.

I don't agree with 2 separate pass plays to pick up 3 yards BUT ...

Boller is a professional QB. A safe, simple slant or in-route should be able to be completed.

6:37 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

CJ, you have to play the odds, a QB who comes in ICE cold, not used to the timing of 1st string offense....vs...a red hot RB who is tearing it up. Maybe they tried to cross up their Defense, ended up crossing themselves.

At that time in the game, you play the odds, with the top RB who is making yrds, or you try to buck the odds with a QB who isn't ready for that situation because of lack of reps and play time. Makes the odds pretty stacked? I go with the odds mostly in my favor, how bout you?

Can't blame Boller, maybe the coaches were trying to be too cute and out thought themselves. Ford made a couple mistakes, he is a ROOKIE who has bolted up the depth chart, that's going to happen. Thing is, he shows promise and a desire to be a top player, that's a keeper. The other guy doesn't have the same qualities. He seems unable to adapt to Pro football, some just don't and he looks to be one of those.

Defense vs the run....same movie I have seen for decades, if the D-line isn't ripping them up, they are in trouble. Ref's, if you watch other games...it's not just a Raider problem anymore. This stuff is league wide, the ref's are just plain bad. NFL network is used for the propaganda police to smooth over how bad it is.

Overall good effort, just didn't get it done. Jax are a good team and the Raiders came close. Raiders will win 2 of their last 3. I predicted 7-9 at the start. I also said they would have to play as good as they could to get there. This team can be better and can win the division if not this year. Just keep the house in order and let the coaches coach and we can expect a good year next year.

JONES

7:12 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

So our approach has been to go after this Denver game like nothing before and let it rip. That can be our only thought process right now

Slap them "Donkey"s and make it hurt...

Play Angry Boyz!!!....Play Damn Angry!!!...


The 5 "S" thing was due to injury and just says even louder we are in need of another starting "CB"....Hopefully a vet with a good skill set that can be depended upon...


WoW!...This is more than kinda dangerous...

Quarterback Jason Campbell, who has had three stingers this season, including one in each of the last two games, was asked not to address the condition before his media session but not listed on the injury report.

“This was the least of any issue before it,’’ Cable said. “For him wanting to go back in the game tells me he was O.K. and there’s been no lingering effects from it. ‘’

They are accumulative...Can be spinal cord trauma...End up with lesions on the spinal cord...Eventually that tingling in the hands doesn't go away...

That's why he was eyes open but NOT moving while down...Everything goes black out and you can't feel your body....The body quivers but can't move...Like paralysis but temporary...

This is I think more dangerous than concussions...I have had both and the "Stinger" is much worse...

PantyRaider....Need At "QB" Is Very Real!!!/_

7:13 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

"CJ, you have to play the odds,"

Agree 100% Jones. Same goes for the last play of the game.

The point I was trying to make is that success or failure of a play comes down to execution. But you are exactly right ... play the higher percentages by putting the ball in McFadden's hands.

7:38 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

A visitor of my blog posted an interesting question/theory ...

The question was, do you think the Raiders purposely let MJD score the 30 yard TD on the 1st play to get the ball back with enough time?

After watching the replay, there is some validity to this theory. Watch the play and check out the GI-NORMOUS hole that opens up for MJD.

My response:

It is an interesting strategical theory about letting MJD score on purpose. I don't agree with it for a few reasons.

There are reasonable possibilities of keeping JAX off the scoreboard from the 30 yard line:

*The Raiders could cause a fumble or JAX could have a bad handoff exchange.

*On 1st down if you make a stop for 1 yard, no gain, or in the backfield, JAX might be forced to pass ...

*If JAX is forced to pass, there is a chance for a negative play (a) holding (b) interception (c) sack

* If JAX is forced to kick a FG then it is possible for (a) missed FG (b) bad snap (c) blocked kick

The hole on the MJD did look suspicious. If they started the drive on the 25 or closer, it might more sense but from the 30???

Your thoughts ...

7:43 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>

The hole on the MJD did look suspicious. If they started the drive on the 25 or closer, it might more sense but from the 30???

Your thoughts ...
>>>

They let him in...

Questionable call, but a calculated risk.. the Raiders WERE driving at will on them... close to 500 yards offense doesn't happen often in the NFL.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>

Boller is a professional QB. A safe, simple slant or in-route should be able to be completed.
>>>

Thanx CJ.

The third down call might have been smarter to just hand off to McF... but 4th and three has to be a pass.

Just watched a replay of the final play... that looked totally on Campbell... nobody saw how many recievers were in the end zone... he simply took easiest pass. Its something we knew coming in.

He is not a risk taker. To a fault sometimes.. obviously. Ford wasn't anywhere close to the sidelines to get another play.

10:46 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

At this point, I am very comfortable bringing back Cable as HC.

I'm also fine with Campbell as the starting QB next year. Barring a real sure bet upgrade falling into our laps.

But 2 things must be addressed.

On defense, we still need some quality big bodies in the middle of the D-line to stuff the run.

Henderson, Kelly, and Bryant are ok, but ok isn't good enough.

On offense, Raiders must find a way to score some 2nd half points.

Seems to me we do most of our scoring in quarters 1 and 2.
Especially in games we lose.

This may fix itself with improved WR's, and 0-line.
But maybe the 0 coaches must do a better job with half time adjustments.

All in all, Raiders are on target for a solid 8-8 season. And they look light years ahead of their past 7 terrible years.

11:13 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"The hole on the MJD did look suspicious."

Didn't look suspicious to me. That's the way the Raiders D has played on and off for years, and they'd already given up several long runs in the game. The score was tie, and there were many possibilities for Jax not to score, as pointed out.

"...nobody saw how many recievers were in the end zone... [Campbell] simply took easiest pass. Its something we knew coming in.

He is not a risk taker."

What risk? You think he's worried about an INT on his stat line? Was he about to get sacked? (They probably only rushed 3 and put everyone in coverage.)

There's LESS risk throwing into the endzone on the last play of the game than throwing 20 yards short of the endzone. That's a no brainer! Just throw the ball! That play has worked many times. Just ask Doug Flutie.

Play the percentages... just like on the Boller pass plays.

There are professional gamblers that make a living at gambling; then there's everybody else....

5:33 AM  
Blogger H said...

NYRaider,

“J-Mac pointed out that the risk of a lockout next year could alter the landscape for coaching changes. Assuming football might not start until into the season, better to hit the ground running with a coaching staff than to start fresh at midstream. A contingency plan of sorts”

If the current decertification vote goes through and the Players Association decertifies itself (yeah, sounds a bit weird), then there won’t be a lockout. There could be a player’s strike though.

If the union is decertified and the owners still do a lockout they open themselves up to lawsuits under anti-trust laws. At least that’s the way I understand it.

Now, what is Jack Del Rio’s problem? He’s done nothing but whine since the game and won’t explain just what he is whining about. “The Raiders crossed the line.” What line? Hell, I thought I was watching a football game. I saw physical play on both sides.

We were only penalized four times for 25 yards. Yet again another loss where the opposition was penalized more than we were. And, it was his guy that was fined by the league for the helmet to helmet (in all honesty I didn’t see any intention on their guy’s effort. Both were going lower at the same time. I guess it’s that “defenseless player” subjective thing.

Calico,

I don’t see letting them score on purpose. I see it as an all out aggressive push on defense to get a tackle in the backfield. When you do that you leave yourself wide open if the back makes it to the second level. They only needed to push them back 4 to six yards to make it a 50+ yard field goal.

There was a college game this year where a team allow the opposition to score. Time was running out and they had to have time to go two possessions even with a field goal. Can’t remember who that was.

Raider00,

I would disagree slightly. OL first. We have to pass protect better. We are doing better because of better quarterback play. But, we have to keep them more upright.

H

5:55 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

H - Point taken, but you're splitting hairs. The point is there may not be football at the start of next season, and that will place pressure on teams to keep their coaching in tact... the risk being that new coaches might not have normal access to players during the off-season and pre-season to initiate a new system.

I think it's pretty clear that either Cable or Jackson will be the HC of the Raiders next year. However, that could play out many different ways.

Overall, I believe Cable has done a decent job improving the culture and motivating his players, and he should be back.

Hard to believe I would even type this, but I'm ok with the status quo, in hopes that adding a couple or three key players might get us over the hump.

That said, I still see the GM slot as the most critical position for the Raiders to fill.

7:44 AM  
Blogger H said...

NYRaider,

Possibly, but the decertification is about half done from a voting standpoint. So, I don't see a "lockout".

With today's economic situation I don't see the players striking for improved salaries and benefits. Talk about bad publicity hit.

What I see is an agreement to accept the current CBA as a framwork for further negotiations with an agreement to not strike or lockout.

This is the exact wrong time for a bunch of millionaires and billionaires to have a public squable over money.

Money that comes from us.

H

9:33 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

H - a strike is still possible. Unions don't always represent the best interest of their members. Here in NY, state workers are being laid off because their unions wouldn't negotiate to save those jobs at a critical time in the economy and state budgeting.

It happens.

At the end of the day, the NFLPA believes their members are entitled to a share of the pie. Personally, I believe the owners take the greatest risk and deserve the lions share.

IMO, both sides should take a hard look at the ridiculous contracts given to rookies. Placing some type of cap on rookie contracts would put more money in the hands of vets that deserve it. Perhaps that's how the union can represent its members.

10:56 AM  
Blogger H said...

NYRaider,

Having never been a member of a union, I may be wrong, but I thought a strike call had to be voted on by the rank and file. If I'm making 500,000.00 plus a year I ain't voting for a strike.

Be that as it may, we are nibbling around the edges on something that is six months or more down the road. We will have a better idea come March when the CBA expires.

I do believe there will be some sort of hard rookie cap in the next agreement. Something needs to be done. Veterans get the short end of the stick in sallaries. Plus, it would probably not force teams into starting rookies right away to get a better ROI, and allow teams to keep more of their free agents.

All in all, it would be better for the league.

H

11:14 AM  
Blogger H said...

One additioinal item on the strike/lockout situation.

The fans are going to have a tough time in today's economy with folks that make that kind of money going through a work stopage.

The folks who will be hurt the most are not the fans though. It's the vendors who work the stadium. The cleanup folks. The people who work the parking lots. Etc.

A guy making 70,000.00 (I think that's somewhere near the national average) has to work eight to ten years to earn what the minimum NFL sallary is.

Even if the argument is an average five year career, the guy making 70 grand might lose their job tomorrow.

H

12:43 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

H - Sadly, everyone loses. Worse, I think the avg annual wage is closer to $40k. No matter, it's difficult to feel bad for either the owners or the players in terms of their earnings.

1:38 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Anyone else rooting for the 49ers tonight? A very strange but necessary evil.

4:33 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Realistically the only shot "SF" has of taking this game is if they take out Rivers...I would suspect that is priority #1 for Signatory as "HC"...That's how he played the game back when....

I don't see "SD" losing to Cinn or Denver as long as Rivers is still standing...Just too damn good of a football team....


Re: Let them score...

NO...It was just a break-down and those things happen...Go back and look at it again with just a little football savvy while asking yourselves...

How did the Raiders know exactly where the "RB"s was going....They parted in the middle...What if he was running left or right the hole would have been out of place...2 "LB"s who gave pursuit looked disgusted on the play when they got burned...


Re: Future Games....

Everyone has known this was coming...Everyone was maneuvering for position instead of working towards solutions...Pride almost always gets in the way of good common sense in these matters...

I worked under 4 unions....I never ever striked....I voted against it and when they voted to strike I took my leave to another area outside there jurisdiction or worked with a different union for the time being....That's why I was in so many...Who ever was still willing to work that's who I worked threw...

Boilermakers/Ironworkers/Steamfitters/United Steel Worker....There all the same...

PantyRaider....Our Chance For The "PO"s Is (-) Sub-Zero!!!!/_

6:02 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

M. Crabtree 1/9yds....

Must be really exciting to watch...

Anyone still holding out hopes for the Suck-Ass "49-Tears" to give us a helping hand....Right!!!...Like they can even help themselves...

Meanwhile out in Cinncy they be imploding and "TO" be running his mouth against the coaches....

It's All Their Fault!!!...

Not a chance they can help us when they can't even help themselves either...

Well there's always the "MuleHead"s...WoW!...Like they can beat anyone this season...

PantyRaider..."MuleHead"s 41 -n- "LightningBugs" Zip!!!/_

Well a man can dream can't he...

7:29 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well lets see...How many teams are looking for new "HC"s...

Minn...
Denver....
"SF"....
Tenn ???
"AZ" ???
Dallas...
Wash ???
Carolina????
Buffalo ???
Cinn ???
Cleveland ???

So any guess where "CrudDumb" ends up...

If Fisher is run he will get a new team...Just hope it ain't out West in the AFC...It would totally suck having Fisher in the "MuleValley"...

I say let "CrudDumb" have the "49-Tears" job...They liked him when he was with the Raiders....Than I have a double reason to hate that bastard....

PantyRaider....Damn Glad I Ain't Watching That Damn Game...Wouldn't Want To Have To Listen To "CrudDumb" Being Dumb While Talking About Those 2 Idiots!!!/_

7:45 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

The production of Darrius Heyward-Bey According to Hue....

“In order for Darren to do what he’s doing, it means somebody better be running downfield to get some of these guys up off us a little bit. I think Darrius has done his job. It’s unfortunate but I think everybody has the expectation that he’s supposed to catch seven or eight balls in every game. I don’t think that’s what it’s all about . . .

“This guy was a year ago, was ridiculed, honestly, for dropping balls. I don’t see that at all. We can all agree to that, right? That’s not happening. This guy is catching balls in games. He has more catches than he did a year ago and he’s playing with confidence. I see improvement. There’s no question we want to see the big jump and I think that’s coming. I want him to have that eight-catch game for 224 yards and three touchdowns. I think that’s just around the corner.”



Well...As of this season NO "WR" has had that type of production in any game..."DHB" has equaled Murphy has equaled Ford for 100yd games....

Recap: Top "WR" production....
Note: Some weeks were so poor not worth listing...

Week #2...
Murphy 6/91yds TD
"DHB" 6/80yds

Week #3....
Murphy 5/119yds
"DHB" 3/49yds

Week #5....
Murphy 2/61yds

Week #6...
"DHB" 3/19yds

Week #8
"DHB" 5/105yds

Week #9
Ford 6/148yds

Week #11
"JLH" 4/37yds

Week #12
Ford 4/108yds
Murphy 4/73yds

Week #14
Murphy 6/59yds
Ford 2/43yds
"DHB" 2/40yds

NO "WR" has more than 2 TDs...

"D-mac" has 39/437yds 3 TDs
Zack has 42/549yds 4 TDs

There is lot's of room for improvement to get to the level Hue is looking forward to...When we have all our "WR"s involved in the games along with our "RB"s/"FB"s-n-"TE" we will be a very difficult team to defends...

PantyRaider....Future Horizons!!!!/_

9:08 PM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

GEE THANKS FOR NOTHING NINERS!

9:52 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

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5:04 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Here's what others think, in hindsight, of how the Raiders fared in this year's draft.

This guy from SI (URL below) thinks four Raiders draft picks have proven to be first round quality players.

McClain (dropped to #20)
Lamarr Houston (#22)
Jacoby Ford (#25)
Jared Veldheer (#30)

Nicely done, Al!

He has the Raiders picking DEZ BRYANT, WR at #8.

http://tinyurl.com/2cz4xe9

5:12 AM  
Blogger H said...

Are they bored over at SI.com? Some clown did a new and improved, I guess, mock draft for 2010! He did it based on some silly production criteria he made up.

The clown had us taking Dez Bryant at 8 instead of McClain. Yeah, Bryant has really put the Cowgirls over the top. McClain’s impact can’t be measured just in tackles. Part of his job is to put other people in position to make plays. By the way, we did miss him last Sunday, a lot. With him in the game our run defense has steadily improved.

I need me a job where I can just make up crap and get paid for it. What is even more disturbing is he submitted it and his bosses said, “Wow, this is great”.

Tebow might be the starter Sunday. It would be of great help if McClain is back. He can read Tebow better than anyone. He studied the guy for two years. According to the reports he is still hobbled by the foot problem. Forget the MRI, do a CT scan of the foot. It’s more expensive, but the clarity and detail is better.

Even being the infernal optimist that I am, I feel better about this team than I have since the 2003 offseason. The Jekyll and Hyde personality is indicative of a young team learning how to win. It also shows just how far this team had sunk. Onward and upward.

NYRaider,

Good points.

H

6:02 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>
According to the reports he is still hobbled by the foot problem. Forget the MRI, do a CT scan of the foot. It’s more expensive, but the clarity and detail is better.
>>>>.

Between Schilens, Miller, McClain, and McF's turf toes 2 years ago.. perhaps the Raiders need to hire a full time foot doctor? Or at least a better one.

These are very young guys with debilitating foot problems.

Or is the NFL purposely shipping the Raiders shitty shoes? grin

6:29 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

I, for one, would have gone INSANE if the Raiders used their top 15 pick two years in a row on a WR... as pretty much anyone else would have done with an IQ in triple digits.

Looks like the SI writer has been reading this blog or something... he thinks the root of all Raider losses are due to WR.

He musta missed the Jax game... our LBs in general were a mess without McClain.

6:36 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

....further, we drafted McClain before Schilens got hurt, and he was pretty much slotted to be our number one WR... if I were to cherry pick, I'm not sure whom I'd pick.

Safety and O-line is still a need, but keep in mind if we did that, we'd still have Morrison (GAG) or have to use our second rounder at MLB (and not get Houston.)

I don't think a lot of thought went into that article... but granted, cherry picking for 32 teams when you don't follow all of them as religiously as we do the Raiders... would be a task I wouldn't have a clue how to do. Guess I don't blame the writer for just making shit up... lol

6:50 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Even being the infernal optimist that I am, I feel better about this team than I have since the 2003 offseason. The Jekyll and Hyde personality is indicative of a young team learning how to win.
>>>>

Indeed. When was the last time we felt at least half-way confident about QB? Our RB situation is easily towards the top of the league... our d-line finally looks solid.

Plug in some o-linemen and DB help, and this team is set to be playoff contenders for many years to come.

Will anyone remember the 7 yr drought in 3-4 years if we are back in the SB?

I won't.

I'm sure many here would beg to differ though...

7:01 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Its kinda interesting how SD is basically blowing everyone out now, before and after the Raiders... means to me how close we are indeed to the top.

Besides NE, SD is the NFLs hottest team... and we kicked em in their house.

Gawd I wish we could have a few of those tough losses back... this team in the playoffs might do some damage... especially if Marshall can get the defense together in the final 3 games.

7:08 AM  
Blogger H said...

"These are very young guys with debilitating foot problems."

Age has nothing to do with it. When I was 24 I had a foot problem that took 9 months to figure out.

Seems the cartilage had basically exploded in my left ankle. Still got a pin and screw in there from the surgery.

The problem is that they are having trouble diagnosing the problem. Treating the unknown isn't what you want to do.

Sometimes things like stress fractures don't show on standard x-rays and MRI.

H

7:30 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Tebow might start! Although he could do some damage with his feet... he almost certainly will be throwing some picks with his junior high throwing motion...

8:25 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

OTOH... if the weather is shitty... I fear for Campbell to revert back.

Remember how horrible he looked first half of the Chiefs game, and the entire SF game in bad weather?

He looked like he'd rather be doing anything BUT playing football. Hopefully the running game will be carrying the load...

8:28 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Don't make too much out of the SI Draft redo. Of course there's no way Davis picks Dez Bryant the year after DHB.

But I agree with the writer that McClain's stock slid a bit after a somewhat avg year (although, he continues to improve).

The interesting part for me was that the writer selects the Raiders 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks as all having performed at or near the top of their draft class.

If you agree with this assessment, it's like the Raiders won the 2009 Draft lottery or something.

As it stands, the Raiders kept all 2009 draft picks on their roster. That's unusual in itself.

9:17 AM  
Blogger H said...

NYRaider,

Got no problem with looking at who over/under performed. But to go back and say we woulda/shoulda drafted a particular player.

Well, let's just say I find it amusing.

H

10:24 AM  
Blogger H said...

NYRaider,

By the way, if we did win the draft lottery this year, then it helps ease not having a first round pick in the coming draft.

H

10:29 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"H"....

Did you make a little Boo-Boo here...
---------------------------------
Forget the MRI, do a CT scan of the foot. It’s more expensive, but the clarity and detail is better.

Sometimes things like stress fractures don't show on standard x-rays and MRI.
---------------------------------

The "Cat" Scan is the old one which has trouble showing soft tissue injury...Unless they improved it somehow of late...The "MRI" looks like they removed all the shin/flesh and can look inside...

When I had paralysis in 82 the "Cat" Scan couldn't show the disc damage...They did the "Die" in the spinal column which could only show a little because it was protruding out not in...By the time we got an "MRI" in 93 there was an 11mm "Sub-Ligament Protrusion" (Herniation) pushing downward -w- 2 other disc bulges above -n- below....L5-L4-L3-S1...I still have the film...Looks like a chocolate cake between plates that has been stepped on but mostly to one side...Also there was a fractured piece of the vertebra that slipped up and refused....

Well on second thought...That was Texas back in "82-83" so maybe they just didn't want to see it and lied...Just a Damn Yankee anyway...

PantyRaider...Spinal Transplant Surgery In A Ways In The Future Still!!!/_

12:07 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Gary...Interesting...

"Plug in some o-linemen and DB help, and this team is set to be playoff contenders for many years to come."

Yes...We may already be at the point of "Just Reload baby!!"...

A vet here and a draft pick there and we just keep going with our young core...

Who would you go for...This is mine..

Vets:

"QB" Vince Young/Michael "TheDawg" Vick

"WR" Plaxico "GunDumb" Burris/Vincent Jackson

Preliminary list of available "Fa"s...2011

http://walterfootball.com/freeagentscontractsstl.php

"WR"s

Malcolm Floyd SD
Legedu Naanee SD
Mike Sims-Walker Jacks
Santonio Holmes NYJ
Braylon Edwards NYJ
Donte' Stallworth Bal
Chansi Stuckey Clev
Sam Hurd Dal
Steve Smith NYG
Santana Moss Wash
Rashied Davis Chi
James Jones GB
Sidney Rice Minn
Greg Lewis Minn
Lance Moore NO
Maurice Stovall TB
Steve Breaston AZ
Early Doucet AZ
Ben Obomanu Sea
Laurent Robinson StL
Mark Clayton StL

"CB"s

Champ Bailey Den
Fabian Washington Bal
Chris Carr Bal
Johnathan Joseph Cinn
Eric Wright Clev
Brandon McDonald Clev
Ike Taylor Pits
William Gay Pits
Brandon Carr KC
Maurice Leggett KC
Travis Daniels KC
Ellis Hobbs Phily
Carlos Rogers Wash
Corey Graham Chi
Chris Houston Det
Lito Sheppard Minn
Brent Grimes Atl
Elbert Mack TB
Michael Adams AZ
Kelly Jennings Sea
Justin King StL
Kevin Dockery StL

"OT"s

Ryan Harris Den
Tyler Polumbus Den
Rashad Butler Hou
Charlie Johnson Indy
Adam Terry Indy
Mike Otto Tenn
Wayne Hunter NYJ
Jared Gaither Bal
Tony Moll Bal
Dennis Roland Cinn
Willie Colon Pits
Tony Hills Pits
Ryan O'Callaghan KC
Jeromy Clary SD
Brandyn Dombrowski SD
Doug Free Dal
Alex Barron Dal
Pat McQuistan Dal
Stephon Heyer Wash
Ryan Cook Minn
Tyson Clabo Atl
Will Svitek Alt
Geoff Schwartz Car
Jermon Bushrod NO
Zach Strief NO
Jeremy Trueblood TB
Brandon Keith AZ
Sean Locklear Sea
Ray Willis Sea
Eric Young StL

"C"
Kyle Cook Cinn
Rudy Niswanger KC
Scott Mruczkowski SD
Nick Cole Phily
Dylan Gandy Det
Jon Cooper Minn
Ryan Kalil Car
Jonathan Goodwin NO
Lyle Sendlein AZ
Ben Claxton AZ
Chris Spencer Sea


Also long list of "G"s/"S"s too...

Should be able to find up-grade help this off-season at "WR"/"OT"/"C"/"CB"...

PantyRaider...Should Be Exciting If We Have a 2011 Season!!!!/_

12:08 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

H - When you're building a team from scratch (or close to it) every pick is important. That the Raiders did so well last draft is a testament to their ability to get it right, so to speak. IMO, that makes it even tougher to accept the fact we don't have our first pick next year.

12:09 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

WoW!...The "Rat" is really melting down...

Redskins' McNabb benched;

For rest of the season...Than basically he's told there is NO interest in him staying...So like...Seek a trade why don't you...Are you still here???...


Chiefs QB Cassel questionable vs. Rams, to be evaluated Sunday

NO GO BABY!!!....NO GO!!!...

If he does play the "Lambs" need to do a "HeadBunt" on his tummy...That will kill him for sure...

NO Way the NFL lets a player come back in after surgery so soon...Especially at "QB"...Not after all their "Protect the Player" campaigns...

PantyRaider...Can You Say "Hypocrite"!!!!/_

12:21 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

Just a word about our old buddies, Shanarat, & Sh*thiemmer.

I always contended that they could not, and would not succeed outside of the AFC West.

They built mostly their whole careers off of hating the Raiders.

And while it worked for them, usually winning 2 games against Raiders every year.

It doesn't work in any other division.

Also, I still say Raiders need to improve their run defense in off season.

Best way to stop run is at the point of attack.

That falls on the D-line. Especially the inside linemen. Where's the beef ? We need to find some.

2:51 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider00...

The "Beef" may have already been on the team if Kellen Herd had developed at 6'6" 355#s...But now that's too late...

12/11

The Buffalo Bills signed defensive tackle Kellen Heard off the Oakland Raiders' practice squad today and cut linebacker Thomas Williams.

Now #72 for the Bills...Let's see how he plays and try to bring him back if he plays well enough...Nothing yet from last week's game against the Browns...

Otherwise Henderson is our "Beef" at 6'7" 335#s but already has 9 seasons under him...Durability is an issue...

Seymour @ 6'6" 310#s 10 seasons
Kelley 6'6" 300#s 7 seasons

But I agree about getting another big run stuffer for the middle...

I like that "5-Man Front Big-Nickle" that the Raiders ran a few times...

Put 3 big "DT"s in the middle with the "DE"s wrapping in on the pocket while the 2 "LB"s play Gap-Control...2 "CB"s -n- 3 "S"s to bring the additional heat on the blitz...

I hope they develop that more during the off season...

PantyRaider....Pocket Smashers!!!/_

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D Mac FedEx ground player of the week for the 2nd time this season. Anybody still think he was a shitty 1st round pick??


Congrads to DMC


RaiderMike

1:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D Mac FedEx ground player of the week for the 2nd time this season. Anybody still think he was a shitty 1st round pick??


Congrads to DMC


RaiderMike

1:35 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now the "MuleHead"s are crying "Foul"...

Seems that "McDamnMules" was in charge of everything and had the final say including getting and cutting player personnel...Everything he did has backfired and sent the "JackAsses" into the abyss...

Gee!...Thanks "McDamnMules" we really appreciate your stupidity out west...

Yes...Everything from the shit canning of Jay the "Cult" to signing of Orting -n- drafting of Tebow...

Now they need to heal their wounds and un-do all that's been done...Like "SpyGate" West...

So Very Sad!!!...Fallen off into that deep dark "BlackHole" from whereat we have ascended...

Meanwhile out in "OakTown" we be under that old "MGP" still....

And it's working!!!!....

PantyRaider....I Hope It Takes Them 2 Decades To Dig Their Way Out!!!!/_

Oh!...And by the way....They had a pseudo "GM" who now wants power....They did a "Diligent Search" for a "HC" according to this board...Both the "GM"-n-"HC" came in together as a team...Wonderfully Sanctioned Right Here!!!...

1:56 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

RaiderMike....

Exactly Bro!!!...

This board beat up on the Gallery pick as well....Now an outstanding "G"....

Huff was pimped prior and bashed after the draft...Now he's a player...

Namndi was bashed big time on this board too...Doubt they want to remember or be honest enough to concede that stupidity....

Some were even questioning "DeathRo" but now bite their lips when they see the "D" meltdown with him on the sidelines...

Than they bashed the drafting of Lamar Houston as "DE" instead of the "DT" that they perceived we needed....Haven't seen any reply on that one lately...

Not to mention questioning why the Raider would waste time on an "OT" from such a small school....

When little Jacoby Ford was picked in the 4th it was "Great that's all we need is another fast "WR" who can't catch"....Think they remember...I do...Crying because he was the fastest man in the draft NOT a football player...

So they continue to hold onto the "DHB" thing with both hands strangling him for all it's worth while ignoring his total worth to the team....Blocking to free up Ford for that "TD" was NOT a matter of value I suppose....

Even their StGod favorite "Mediot" posted favorably Hue's assertion that "DHB" did his job drawing coverage deep away from "D-Mac" so this "O" could be productive....But ya know that's just "OC" lies while walking the company line...

21/306yds TD....

I hope "DHB" lights it up tomorrow just to know they "CRINGED" every time he caught a pass!!!!...

PantyRaider....2nd Leading "WR" On The Team....

"TE"-n-"RB" are team leaders just like the "OldDays"....Just like I projected would be the reality this season....Remember!!!!....

"That Won't Work In Today's NFL"!!!!

2:24 PM  
Blogger x said...

Easy cowboy.....no one is going to "cringe" if DHB plays well and nobody here is "bashing", just questioning some questionable choices. Some points:

- Gallery is not necessarily an "outstanding" G. No Pro Bowls to date. But that's really beside the point, he was drafted #2 overall as a LT - arguably the most important position on the OL.

- Don't even compare Ford to DHB. DHB was picked #7 to pay immediate dividends, not disappear for games on end. Jackson was saying what any coach would say. He's emphasizing the positive and is not going to knock the kid in public to destroy his confidence. Let's just hope his third year is like McFab's. I just doubt it considering his modest college career and clumsiness.

- Huff was rightfully criticized as well. Timing impeccable on calling him "outstanding" after last week's game. I'd say he has turned into a solid S who occasionally gets beaten badly.

- Can't judge Rolando yet, although he is pretty widely considered to be playing below expectations. I wouldn't just judge on his absence. He's got to make some big plays (1 int so far) and play the run better.

Reading the apologists' posts here, one would think the epically bad last seven years haven't happened. And that this year is magical or something. Raiders are still just 6-7, don't forget.

3:25 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"X"....

I submit "PB"er is somewhat above "Outstanding"....He would "Stand -Out" as a top tier player who has yet to make that "PB" appearance...

"PB"er would be "Exceptional" in my perception....Only 3 "G"s make it per yr from our Conference to that level while there are at least 50 who are actively playing the position in rotation....

As far as the 6-n-7 everything is rather relative now is it not...A missed "FG"...A few bad "Zebra" calls taking pts off the board...An occasional "SleepWalk"...That removed we could have/should have been 9-n-4 at this point...

"AZ"/Hou/Jacks/"SF" -23pts total...

As for Huff I simply said now he is a "Player"...That's what you expect is to draft a starter with your top picks...And this week he was burned playing "CB" NOT "S" in a stupid 5-"S" set...Both Namndi-n-Routt were out...

So that's basically what "DHB" has been also...A "Starter" from the get-go and the 2nd leading "WR" on our team...He is being pushed by Ford who was a pleasant surprise that perhaps few expected to develop the way he has....Put some of that on the new "OC" I would say...

Having a "PB"er with your top picks is a "Hope" NOT an expectation....There are 32 teams picking in the 1st...Maybe only 1/3 make it to the "PB" ever and usually NOT in their 1st 2 seasons....

The adverse "DHB" talk has been "Bashing" by just about any definition I could come up with while he has been a hard working player with a great unselfish attitude doing what ever is asked of him without complaint....And I do suspect there are a few here who "Cringe" every time he makes another positive stat....

PantyRaider....Than Explain Why All The Negativity At The Mere Mention Of His Name!!!!/_

PS....I did ride Rodeo and haul cattle so "CowBoy" would fit...

4:33 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Only some players enjoy Sacred Cow status.

Meanwhile, it's open season on Jason Campbell, despite the fact that he has generated more results for us than anyone since Gannon, and is performing as well as anyone could have reasonably expected (including Al Davis).

His current QB rating of 84 is right in line with his past two seasons (86 and 84), as is his TD to Interception ratio.

What did you expect?

4:41 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

PR,

Just for the record, I have not given up on DHB.

But, you have to at least be disappointed in his performance, considering his draft status.

Next year is a make or break year for DHB.

On the other hand, I have had it with the "promise" that Chaz Shillins will contribute to the Raiders offense.

I have no hope in this promise. The Raiders should end the Shillins experiment, and move on.

I'm sure Raiders can upgrade the WR's over Shillins, JLH, and Miller.

5:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider00...

A few posts ago I listed the "WR"s who appear to be "FA"s this yr...It's a long list and has some highly qualified talent...As to how many will hit the street that's still unknown but it should be more than were available this past off-season...


"RT"....

If you kept track I said I would back off on the "JustCrap" if he could put together 2 decent games in a row....Well he did that and so did I...I posted as such...But when do you back off of the "DHB" Bashing parade...

Ya see there was a difference right from the start..."JC" was a Vet "QB" being brought in to lead this team...He failed miserably...Slow learner and finally shows he got's it...A little too little too late to salvage this seasons "PO" hopes but at least he finally showed up....Now we will see how he finishes and if he's worth keeping around another season as the starter...

Conversely "DHB" was a rookie "WR" chosen high in the draft who came into a very poor situation to say the least..."JePurple" -n- Cable as "OC" was NOT a good combination...

Than he get's hurt and was out for the entire time that the team showed some slight signs of ability passing the damn ball threw which time Murphy makes a name for himself...

Than this season he endures threw the unsuitable play at the "QB" position threw the majority of the season but he still becomes the #2 "WR" in catches...Murphy ain't been much better threw it all either...Ford is a pleasant surprise to all and is pushing...

So now just what the hell is depressing you so damn bad about that freakin draft pick....

We got's a consistent starter...

2nd "WR" on the team of date..

Great attitude...Totally Unselfish...

Hard worker that's highly productive at times...

Considered to be still developing with good up-side potential...

Good down field blocker and decoy that helps open up the short game...

Is this it...

#1 "WR"s:

36/530yds 2TDs.....
42/572yds 5 TDs....

Hell if that's what's upsetting you so bad maybe you should wear "Red-n-White".....

Their 5-n-9 this season in the weakest division in football....

PantyRaider...You Gonna "Cringe" Tomorrow If He Makes Plays!!!!/_

5:43 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

OH!...And by the way....

Where was your take on that great "GM"/"HC" activity over there in the "MuleValley" that you were so damn high on last season...

Aren't you the one who posted they would be in the "PO" race long before us...

Meanwhile were still stuck with that old "MGP" and a "HC" who couldn't get a job anywhere else...

PantyRaider....I Just Luv It When Your SOOOOOooooo Wrong!!!!/_

5:47 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Oh! Ya!...And let's not forget "DC" either with their new "GM" (Allan) and that "Rat" at "HC"....

Ya!...See!...Having that "GB" solves all the problems...

PantyRaider...Now who else can I pick on...

Minn...Do they have a "GM"

How about Tenn...That's a great example...

Cinncy anyone!!!....

5:55 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Broncos turn to rookie Tebow at QB as Orton nurses sore ribs

Tebow Time has arrived for the Denver Broncos.

Oh! Goodie!!...If that's true we get's to welcome him to the NFL with the "SackPack" in his face all day long....

Any bets he doesn't finish the game standing up!!!....

PantyRaider....He Got's Legs So Don't Let Him Loose!!!!/_

6:02 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

How bad has the total collapse been...

The Broncos (3-10) seem to be the perfect opponent to do it against, having lost 18 of 23 games since starting last season 6-0 under former coach Josh McDaniels.

Wow!...Now that's a Raider style collapse!!!...

PantyRaider...19-n-24 after tomorrow!!!!/_

6:08 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Would "two decent games in a row" work for you re: DHB?

Seems like a fair trade. And since he hasn't caught more than three balls in two consecutive games yet, I'm still waiting.

Campbell is exactly who he was before he came to the Raiders, nothing more, nothing less. He has thus performed up to reasonable expectations.

DHB has not performed up to reasonable expectations. A total of 151 players have more grabs than he does this year. There are only 32 teams in the NFL. Do the math. He is below "below average" right now.

6:53 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

My interest in DHB right now pertains mainly to his bizarre "Sacred Cow" status.

Otherwise, I would just ignore him, as his lack of performance merits.

I've never seen someone who produced as little get defended more than DHB. It's truly remarkable to me.

Not only that, if you critique DHB, you are an Al Hater, but meanwhile, it's open season on Mr. Davis's big QB signing, Jason Campbell, who has performed EXACTLY in line with his historical record.

6:59 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

Nice stat...Now finish the work...

Where does Murphy rate in that formula...Our passing game is below average to begin with and our "WR"s are the 3rd to 5th receivers on the team...Not one is the #1 receiver....

Our play at "QB" has been below average has it not...

151 divide by 32 teams = 5 players from each team...

OK..."DHB -n- Ford are almost a tie for the 4th -n- 5th receiver on our below average passing team...Ranked at #24...So now isn't that what you would expect to see in this situation...


Would "two decent games in a row" work for you re: DHB?

Yes...That puts a mark for him to achieve...That's nice...

Lets take a look:

Week #2...
"DHB" 6/80yds

Week #3....
"DHB" 3/49yds

That's as good as it gets back to back...Not enough to substantiate a quality "WR"...So we wait to see what he does and how long it takes him to develop with the note that his production is directly conditional upon the play at "QB" and the dispersion of the football...

PantyRaider...."DHB" Is Now On The Meter!!!!/_

Do you see anything here that stands out....

CrapFree....Games over 50yds

2/12yds
1/32yds
3/37yds
5/58yds......
9/105yds.....
4/57yds......
4/32yds
3/53yds......
4/61yds......
1/15yds
2/48yds
3/45yds
1/1yd
3/17yds

7:23 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

When you look at the 2 of them they are the same player with a little different package...

CrapFree #1 "WR"

6'1" 214#s Hands/Attitude/Lazy

"DHB" #2 "WR"

6'2" 210#s Speed/Blocker/Hard Worker

Kinda like buying a car...Both about the same price but personal preferences dictate which one you buy....

I guess I would just take the sportier one with speed and better handling over that showy slow stiff handling bastard...

PantyRaider....My Car Needs A Tune-Up!!!!/_

7:50 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Which one attacks the "Chicks"....

7:55 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Oh! Ya! While were on the subject Branch who "DHB" was suppose to be the replica of was allowed to use the "Stick-um"...

Allot -n- Often!!!...

I think if "DHB" was also allowed the use of that "Miracle Aid" he would be much better at holding onto the ball too...

One thing "J-Mac" the "Mediot" speculated about is that "JC" lacks confidence in his "WR"s so typically goes elsewhere with the ball or holds it too long making up his mind whether to go there at all...

He's open....Ah!...Ah!...He Can't catch!....Where do I go!!!....

SACK!!!....OOO! That Hurts!!!...

PantyRaider..."Stick'um" Transplant Surgery Might Help!!!!/_

8:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Week #15 Match-up:

Raiders -vs- "MuleHead"s "O"=vs="D"

"O"-#14.............."D"-#28
Pass-#24.............#19
Rush-#3..............#31
Scoring-#10..........#32
"OL"-#27.............Sacks-#31 Tie
.....................Ints-#32

"D"-#14.............."O"-#10
Pass-#7..............#5
Rush-#26.............#29
Scoring-#18..........#19
Sacks-#4........"OL"-#24
Ints-#30


When we have the ball...

Run-Run-Run -n- dump-off to the "TE"-n-"RB"s and throw down field to the "WR"s off "PA"....Play tough "SmashMouth" football and control the clock...Ball Security!!!...

When they have the ball...

Unknown passing ability...#5 under Orting but who knows with a rookie in his 1st ever start...Very little run game to worry about but the "QB" got's legs too...Sloppy field so stay in your lanes and don't get trapped...

Bring the freakin heat and bring it often...Their "OL" is weak and unprepared to stop our "SackAttack"...Strip the football...

Raiders 37 "MuleHead"s 9....

PantyRaider...Play In Your Face Angry Football All Damn Day!!!!/_

"KC" Loss 8-n-6
"SD" Won 8-n-6
Raiders Win 7-n-7
Denver Loss 3-n-11

8:57 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

At this point, I would gladly settle for 2 decent back-to-back performances from DHB where he catches 3+ balls and has 50+ yards.

These are very low standards yet he has yet to achieve one single time in 2 seasons.

2009
1-18
1-18
0-0
2-28
1-10
1-22
1-7
2-21
Total: 9-124-1 TD

2010
2-40
1-11
6-80
3-49
1-2
-
3-19
-
5-105
-
-
0-0
0-0
Total 21-306-1 TD

In 2 seasons, DHB has had a total of 3 games where he caught 3+ balls and had 50+ yards.

I sincerely hope that DHB's 3rd season is the one where he establishes a decent AND consistent level of productivity.

Cringe if he plays well? No, more like shock and elation.

9:30 PM  
Blogger x said...

I wouldn't be promoting the comparison between Crabtree and DHB.

While I admit, Crabtree isn't doing as well as I thought he would (yet) and is having an average year, he still has double the catches and 5x the TDs as DHB.

I do also hope that DHB will shock and amaze me next year....or better yet, the rest of this year.

10:07 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Nice stat...Now finish the work...

Where does Murphy rate in that formula"

Murphy has 36 catches this year- which tops his total last year - despite being out with a rib injury that caused him to cough blood.

Bouncing back from that injury, he had 6 catches last week, and should have no problem leading the Raiders WRs in catches and yards when all is said and done.

You have to go back to 2005 to find a Raiders WR that broke 75 catches in a season. That was Jerry Porter, and he found himself riding the bench immediately thereafter.

Nuff of that nonsense.

Today's game: Raiders spanked Denver last time, and both teams should be primed for a repeat performance.

But, in the NFL, nothing so obvious ever really is....

This is an important game, and brings us one game closer to breaking our losing ways. 8-8 is a must. 9-7 would be better.

It's Gameday!
GO RAIDERS!

6:16 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>>
Raider Take said...

My interest in DHB right now pertains mainly to his bizarre "Sacred Cow" status.

Otherwise, I would just ignore him, as his lack of performance merits.
>>>>>


This is kind of a "chicken or egg" scenario.

Al-haters don't have anything else to whine about so they pile on DHB... people like me are amazed anyone can blame DHB for a loss when the defense gave up 38 points.

RT complains that he is called an Al-hater in defending the people that bang on DHB because they don't have anything else to complain about.

Around and around we goooooo....

7:21 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Here are all the things Al-haters have whined incessantly about the last year...

1. Cable is Als puppet and shouldn't be calling plays.

1 (A) Cable might get coach of the year consideration and hired a quality OC... Can't whine about that anymore.

2. Al is old and senile and needs a GM.

2 (A) The team is heading for 8-8 and is young and talented enough to be in the playoff hunt for the next 5 years, all done without a GM... can't complain about that anymore.

3. Al only drafts speed, and should makes ridiculous choices...

3 (A) Al had one of the best drafts in NFL history last year, and the former Al-hater whipping boy McFadden is having a pro-bowl year... can't complain about that anymore. Even Tommy Kelly is playing like an all-pro now?

WHat to complain about? What to complain about....


Ohhh wait... DHB IS STILL STRUGGLING!!!!! YIPPPEEEE!

Look at DHB!!!

He's the reason Al is a moron!!!

Phew!!!

7:35 AM  
Blogger x said...

Fortunately for us Al-haters, we have plenty of ammunition in the 7 years of record-breaking ineptitude and dysfunction. DHB is just a blip on that radar ;)

Seriously, I never thought Raider fans would be rejoicing and patting the management on the back over a 6-7 record. That's what it's come to.

8:05 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Here's the new math:

Ripping Al's pick Campbell for performing as well as reasonably expected = Al Lover.

Critiquing Al's pick DHB for not performing nearly as well as reasonably expected = Al Hater.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Meanwhile, I guess that the bar has been so lowered that currently being in third place in the AFC West is worth all sorts of brazen declarations about how great our coach and GM have performed, and how we're positioned for dominance?

Sigh.

8:10 AM  
Blogger x said...

Meanwhile, I guess that the bar has been so lowered that currently being in third place in the AFC West is worth all sorts of brazen declarations about how great our coach and GM have performed, and how we're positioned for dominance?

Exactly.

And don't forget the fact that it took a preposterous 7 years.

Never thought that would happen to this (once) proud franchise of all the 32.

8:18 AM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

looks like cable gone at the end of the year according to what monte poole is implying:

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_16894821

makes sense though... . he'll just conveniently let cable's contract expire. no way he lets jackson leave...

9:31 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

If it it happens, it would surely mark the first time that the Coach of The Year was fired by the Owner of The Year.

9:40 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

It's Game Day!

Should be an interesting game due to (a) Tebow in his 1st NFL start.

My hope is that the Raiders bury Tebow in an avalanche pass rush.

(b) The weather

Thunderstorms are projected around kick-off time.

With Tebow starting coupled with the Donkeys recent struggles, it is VERY important for the Raiders to get off to a good start, get the lead, and then put their foot on the Donkey's throat.

10:19 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

In words of Monte Poole when assessing Cable's tenure with the Raiders, "the bar has been dramatically lowered in recent years...."

Even if the Raiders are lucky enough to squeak out an 8-8 record and put their consecutive year losing record to rest after eight long years, it's not going to send anyone from the Raiders to a podium in to accept coach- or GM of the year award(s).

Jason Campbell has a better chance of becoming the next Jim Plunkett.

10:20 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

CJ - I think ball security will be cricital. IMO, the Raiders only chance to lose this game is if they beat themselves. Not impossible by any stretch.

10:21 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

NYR -

Agreed. Crazy weather, which includes a howling wind, heavy downpour, and torn up field, can create a very different game and mindset. With that said, Special Teams units play a HUGE role in these conditions. Punts and kicks are an adventure in this type of weather. Field goals can be BIG. Ball security on KR/PR is critical. Field position battle is important.

One additional point in the context of today's weather:

I think Bush could be equally if not better than McFadden. Bush has shorter steps, shorter stride and will be less likely to have negative plays caused by bad footing.

10:44 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Scorpio...

Don't believe anything that "CessPool" Craps up....

"RT"...

Spin that damn crap all you want...The simple fact of the mater is that NONE of us were pimping "DHB" as the 2nd coming of anything...We just took exception to your "Criers Circle" constant bashing of the young player while crying about all that "CrapSpree" is...Well let the record show he ain't much and it's damn good he ain't on the team....

Better to have "NoMoss" back than that prima dona in "SadFran"....Prolley much cheaper too....

Meanwhile out in StL "Lambs" are up 6-0...Hope that can hold up...

Matt is playing injured so I hope they get a hit on his tummy and open that wound a little...Than he will be out the next 2 weeks too....

PantyRaider....Sloppy Field Should Favor The Run!!!!/_

11:02 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Spoke too soon...Lambs lay down and get rolled over for the "TD"....

Baa--Baa--Baa---Bad Lambs!!!!!

11:05 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Al Haters have NO limits...

You would dare to compare a 6 yr Vet 1st rd pick "QB" who takes until after the Bye Week to "Memorize" the freaking "WR" routs in his "O" to a 2nd yr "WR"....

WoW!...There really are NO limits to stupidity!!!...

A 6 yr Vet "QB" who takes until week 15 to put together back to back quality performances...

WoW!!!...I was surely totally out of line for ever questioning such tremendous talent and commitment to the game of football...

So than the stupid shit continues while posting I'm bashing Mr Davis for bashing the "QB" he brought in as a "FA"....WoW!!!...Again the low level of intelligence is amazing sense I bashed the lack of work ethic and accomplishment NOT the signing...

The same low level of hypocrisy that praised Gruden's back to back 8-n-8 seasons is now bashing Cable for having us right at that mark now in his 2nd year while they hold hands with "CessPool" calling for his head....WoW!!!!...Again!!!...

Meanwhile their poster-boy the "GM" Allan is right in the middle of that meltdown in "DC"...Oh!...But nary a word posted about that...

Or the meltdown in the "MuleValley" after all their pimping of that supercalifragilistic situation that their fine owner produced out of all that is wrong with "NE"...

"SpyGate" West!!!....

And I'm told they have a CLUE!!!...

PantyRaider...Am I To Believe YOU!!!/_

11:52 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Monday April 26th....

33 weeks later he puts together his 1st back to back decent performance...

Are you kidding me!!!...And I was wrong to question that bastard for playing like "JustCrap" threw the majority of this season....

Just imagine what we could have done had he "Memorized" those "WR" routs back say 20 weeks ago like should have been expected when he was given that damn playbook!!!....

So the "PO" hopes are lost and who should we claim shoulders that responsibility...

"HC"....OK
"OC"....OK
"DC"....OK
"STC"...OK
"QB"....NOT OK???

But a damn "WR" is OK???...

Fuckin Weird!!!...

12:08 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

McFadden needs only 7 yards today to reach 1,000 for the season. Bush needs 25 to reach 500. Not a bad combination. Raiders have 38 sacks. Today could be a day to add to that total.

12:16 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"D-Mac" also has 49/437yds 3 TDs receiving...1430yds total all purpose production...

Bush adds 11/145yds...620yds total..

Reece adds 22/103yds rush -n- 21/252yds 2 TDs Pass...355yds total..

The Trio has accounted for 2,405yds of our total "O"...

Compare the "WR"s...

Murphy 36/530 pass + 1/43yds rush = 593yds total...

"DHB" 21/306yds pass + 3/46yds rush = 352yds total...

Ford 19/367yds pass + 7/62yds rush = 429yds total....

So that Trio has accounted for 1,375yds of our total "O"...

About half as much just as I projected it would be and it works...

Add in the "TE"s...

Zack 42/548yds
Brandon 10/69yds

"TE"s 617yds total is very low for what I projected but the injuries have taken their toll...I would like to see us go after another "TE" and there are a few quality "FA"s available this off season....

"RB"s -n- "TE"s 3,220yds of "O"...
"WR"s...........1,375yds of "O"...

What needs to happen is improve on the "WR" production and the "TE" production while maintaining the high level of "RB" production for this "O" to become the dominate unit it's designs say it will be...

PantyRaider....3 Games Left To Improve Those #'s!!!!/_

12:52 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Gameday thread is up.

12:58 PM  

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