Monday, October 11, 2021

The End of the Gruden Show

No excuses. The Gruden Show has ended. The Raiders once again find themselves starting over. The only constant is chaos with this organization. Time to hit the reset button. 


Blogger TheFreakingPope said...

I vote Tom Cable. Can I get a second?

6:46 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

...dare anyone voice their opinions or joke privately. Bezos can build a politically and cancel-culture correct robo-coach that can't disobey!😂😂😂

8:12 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

...hey wait, Art Shell is only 74. Perfect!!!

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Not Tom Cable. We need Joe Brady (OC, Panthers), Eric Bienemy (OC, Chiefs), or I'd even take back Bill Musgrave to be HC. Right now Rich Bisaccia (Special Teams Coordinator) is interim HC. Our next coach should build from the player's strengths, not a system. That is why I never liked the Gruden hire to begin with. It is all about Gruden and not the team. I'm glad he's gone.

8:14 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Wow! Untouchable then gone in a flash, and for the wrong reason. As crazy as it sounds, I have to wonder if his exit had anything to do with his painfully slow rebuild which his high-powered offense has taken a turn in the wrong direction due to its inept O-line... and nobody appears to have an answer.

Seems like a copout on multiple levels.

Chaos, indeed. Will Mike Mayock follow Gruden out of the building?

Should we get ready for every player to be ejected from the roster? That's a two-year process, and adding new players is about another three-year process. Five more years?

Maybe Bisaccia has something up his sleeve. I guess he's wanted to be a head coach for a long time. He may find out LV was not the right place to start his HC career.

Here's Gruden coaching summary: Raiders bring in Gruden; Gruden ejects Mack; Gruden leaves.

Turns out Gruden was far better at dismantling than he was at rebuilding. He's a "demo guy."

3:28 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

P.S. Don't forget, Gruden has banked over $30 million since rejoining the Raiders. Maybe the job got too hard for him and he just wanted to retire, stay home and work on that beer gut.

He leaves head coaching with ~ .500 record. Anyone who thought Gruden was an elite HC should consider that.

If Mark Davis plans to pay someone else $10M a year, perhaps he should hire someone who can give him his money's worth... and not put him on a 10-year retirement plan.

3:48 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Can't get this out of my mind, but for all Gruden's bluster and his Chucky persona, his mouth finally wrote a check his butt couldn't cash.

Could it be that Mark Davis, behind the scenes, had enough of the Gruden II era and had the balls to tell Gruden it was time go? Davis didn't look too happy in his owner's box while Khalil Mack and his buddies were having their way with the Raiders' O-line on Sunday.

Which makes me think Mayock is next....

5:52 AM  
Anonymous Ghost Ship said...

I like Tom Cable, but I'm not ready for Cable part ll. Not after Gruden part ll went down. And lets not forget Shell part ll. Raiders don't do well with part ll's.

To be honest, I was not looking forward to the next 6.5 yrs of Gruden. I could not make any sense of what he, and Mayock were doing. Still, it's sad to see Gruden go out this way. Shades of Joe Paterno.

I guess Mark Davis will put his thinking cap on. After he puts on his white blazer of course. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe Mark Davis will get lucky and get one right this time.

And please, no Del Rio part ll....PLEASE!

5:52 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Gruden is about Gruden's ego, and that is it. That is why it didn't work out here, because he couldn't get out of his own way.
I'm not advocating Del Rio II, I want a solid new OC that is ready for a HC job, that will put DC into a upgrade on offense and use their strengths. Keep Gus Bradley at DC, it is what he does best.
It's going to be interesting to see what Mark Davis does here. His guy is gone.

6:59 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Elevating Bisaccia places Greg Olsen in full charge of calling plays on offense. There's a history between Olsen and the Raiders which I don't recall as being all that great. Olsen came back knowing Gruden would be calling plays, which is kinda lame all by itself. He's probably not the next up and coming mastermind in the NFL.

Is it finally time for the Raiders to step outside their organizational nepotism and find someone with a proven record, on offense or defense, to lead the team?

There's a pretty solid list of very successful coordinators out there who are untested as HC but seem worthy.

In the interim, Bisaccia will get a chance to see if he's one of them.

7:05 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Who would have thought that Gruden would have been the first coach gone this season? I wonder what the odds were in Vegas for that, we all know that Matt Nagy was the leader for that role.
Bisaccia, I think, will do a great job; and I am hoping he let's DC open it up and play his style. This will either go extremely well, or it will go extremely poorly.
I think it goes extremely well if Mark Davis trusts Mike Mayock here. Mayock is an intelligent dude, and is a good one too. He is all class, and he is a guy of integrity. Let him bring in a coach, and let him do his job as GM and build this team up. If he can do that, then this won't be a difficult transition. If he let's Mayock go, this will set us back for decades.

7:30 AM  
Blogger TheFreakingPope said...

Agreed, Nate. For the record, the Cable suggestion was an interim suggestion, and mostly in jest. But frankly, with how things are going, I'd settle for sweeping the division almost any season.

The captains and locker room leaders are going to need to really step things up and keep us focused.

If we play to our potential over the next two games and get to the BYE, I think we can weather this storm.

8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ghost Ship,

Shades of Joe Paterno WTF are you talking about. Paterno stood idly by at a minimum and or at worst activley buried child molestation for years. To me that deserves criminal charges. How in the hell does that compare to someone having private conversations with their buddies that use mysoginst, homophobic racial terms?

The NFL is scum they went after Gruden mid season after sitting on these emails for months but buried the fact of what Daniel Snyder did which is true discrimination and harrasment. No one can not say the NFL has out for the Raiders.

I feel bad for Mark, the fans and the players.


9:50 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Not sure we can just give Mayock a pass after his involvement in the Gruden era. The Raiders have been far from "great" during Gruden's tenure, so I'm not prepared to suggest they will be great with Gruden gone and Mayock staying on.

Lots to consider in terms of drafting, blowing up what was a great O-line and replacing it with marginal talent, then having no depth to back it up.

Lots of holes in the Mayock GM resume.

10:07 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Without knowing all the facts, I don't like what the NFL did, and feel Gruden should not have stepped down (based on what I understand was reported). However, I can't help but feel like this will benefit the Raiders. Gruden kept making the same mistakes. His coaching lacks dynamic that other successful teams bring. And his coaching record speaks for itself. He's an average coach with a lot of passion and flare. That just wasn't good enough.

Gruden is guess wrong every week in his scripted plays and forced Carr and the Raiders to claw their way back. As weeks went by, we hoped that would correct itself, but it got worse.

This might give the team a shot in the arm. Extremely important divisional game this week.

Let's hope it's a new era starting on the fly, and not another full dismantling. That would be extremely depressing and delay any trip to Vegas.

10:18 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

P.S. Gruden knows what he said, so perhaps his resignation was justified on that basis. It's been a really bizarre couple days!!!

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Ghost Ship said...


Paterno went out in an unexpectedly bad way. Gruden went out in an unexpectedly bad way. I never compared the circumstances.

So when someone says, "shades of", it means there's a similarity, it doesn't mean it's exactly the same. Very simple to understand.

12:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gruden had enough of the NFL and this is obviously an NFL vendetta because of Goodell being named and ridiculed. This reminds me of the Al Davis days, the league is/was out to get the Raiders and here we are again.

I am surprised that Mark Davis left Gruden out to dry. Mark isn't like his Dad.

Gruden knew the league wouldn't let up and the league let this event be known to the Raiders before the Chargers game. The league purposely did this release at this time to destroy the Raiders season.

Personal emails that haven't been released to the public and Gruden is vilified before being able to defend himself. What a world we live in and if anyone defends this 'culture' of 'correctness', you don't deserve the time of day.

12:59 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

New take is up.

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Raidernation why the negative attitudes? its' next man up!

When Reggie took over team, Raidernation said- "Go Reggie!" He's gonna rebuild the team into a winner- Well, he didn't- but we stayed upbeat, positive and hopeful.

When Reggie started building team Raidernation media/ Reggie told fans it would be tough but he and his coaches would build with good draft picks and other players and later be a top team winning games- Well, they didn't but fans stayed upbeat, positive and hopeful.

When Del Rio was hired as Raiders HC Raidernation said- A real Raiders'-like coach and now we can think playoffs. Del Rio would get this team going- Well, he did in '16 then he was fired. But we stayed upbeat and hopeful and some of us suspected Gruden might be hired.

When Gruden was hired we Jumped to the moon!; we were pumped up, excited and shouted with passion! We just knew Gruden would take Raiders back to Glory! We knew he would coach us to the playoffs- Well, he didn't but we stayed upbeat, positive and hopeful.

* We may not have a good football team right now but we have the best fan base in pro sports! No other fan base has been through anything like the last 17 years.

Other teams can brag about sell outs, how much fans spend at the stadiums and how loud the fans are but we have stayed loyal to the Raiders when they- are in a 17 year slump, have rising ticket prices, are dealing with decades of ref bias, dealing with losing Al and they are in the city that team took off from for new city.

Like Al's era we don't have anything to prove but Raidernation shows every season they support this team.

You, Raidernation are awesome and one of the biggest stories in pro sports.

Don't get too upset remember, the old Raiders, Al, the great games. Don't let the NFL's schemes make you depressed and disappointed or the media's smearing make you stop watching the Raiders.

We are Raidernation! Go Raiders!

12:40 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Amen, Raider Nate. You can preach here anytime.

7:37 AM  

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