Sunday, September 24, 2017

Redskins Gamenight Thread

As I write, it's halfway through the first quarter and the Raiders look a little starstruck with the prime-time spotlight. There is still plenty of time to turn it around, but they've got to get the jitters out and start playing RAIDERS 2017 football.


Blogger nyraider said...

It's downright ugly!

6:11 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Who is this team!?

6:55 PM  
Blogger TheFreakingPope said...

Are we going to actually dust off the clown car?!

7:22 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Hey, Norton, let me help you out: THEY"RE GOING UNDERNEATH TO THE RB!

7:54 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Disgusting. This one's gonna leave a mark.

Did the O-line (and the team) spend more time deciding how they would protest the National Anthem than game planning? They wanted to stay in the locker room but that would have cost the team a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty for missing the coin toss. Instead, they won the coin toss and proceeded to throw an interception on the second play of the game.

The entire offensive line got punched in the mouth. The standout by far was Newhouse, who further exposed himself as a liability to the line. How many times will we say that this year?

Raiders played a lot of zone D, and there were Skins' players left alone, off the line and out of the backfield.

This loss is a double whammy for me, as I have Carr, Crab and Beastmode on my FFB team. Collectively, they scored less than any decent single player should have. I need to rethink my line-up next week as the Raiders face a better defense in Denver.

4:31 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

This wasn't just a matter of losing a game. It was clearly a team not prepared to play. There's a difference. They couldn't block, catch or defend capably. Distracted going in, then overwhelmed by the moment.

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

The Redskins were pretty aggressive yesterday. Apparently, Crabtree and Cooper were talking trash before hand saying they were collectively going to put up over 200 yards. Josh Norman and the defense took exception and punched them in the mouth. Penn gave up 2 sacks yesterday after giving up 1 all last year. Gabe Jackson and Newhouse gave up the other 2.

I hope the Redskins did not expose a weakness in our offensive game plan that will plague us the rest of the season (knock on wood). I hope this was a fluke. I wonder more, NY, if they expected to roll in and beat Washington looking ahead to the Doncos this next weekend. That was an ugly game, something we haven't seen in 2 years. The defense looked lost on the screen on 3-19. If Conley had been playing aggressive, like the Redskins were, they would have killed that play and the outcome would have been different I think. That play deflated the Raiders.

For a team that has, for the last year, talked about how much pride they have for being a physical team; sure didn't show it last night. It was like they were afraid to hit back. At no time did I see someone on the sidelines talking with Carr and the offense about adjustments. No plan B? That is the kind of crap we saw the last 14 years. Again, I hope this was a fluke and not an Achilles heel. Norman has been talking to Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib, said as much in his presser last night. I was disappointed with how fast we abandoned the run game, and Beast didn't play in the second half. Richard had a few good runs, but they didn't stick with him. They better get their crap together, I don't want to be talking about a loss to Denver next week. JUST WIN, BABY!

2:42 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

As impressive as Todd Bowles was in his OC debut and last week, he was equally bad Sunday. I agree, Nate, the Raiders lacked a Plan B. There were no real adjustments. They tried to mix it up with Patterson on an end around but that got stuffed. It made no sense to try an east/west play with such an aggressive (and fast) defense.

Early in the game, Michaels and Collinsworth were bragging about how fast Carr gets rid of the ball (quickest in the NFL); then we saw Carr hold the ball too long all game. Yet anytime Carr threw underneath, the Skins were right there to shut it down. Raiders D could take a lesson.

Big disappointment; not so much that they lost, but that they weren't even competitive... not even a little bit. At least it's outside the conference.

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

The worst was this was reminiscent of 4 years ago. It wasn't just a lost, it was a lost team without any direction, lacking any true motive to change.
Carr has good timing, but never faced a defense quite like what he saw on Sunday. Man-zone, tight coverage on the WRs, and the opposing D-Line manhandling his O-line. The Redskins played like they were angry, and guess what? We face a tougher Denver Defense on Sunday. At this point, I'm worried, and questioning our overall toughness.

11:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I would not question the toughness. The defense played well against the run and that is an improvement over the last few years.

Carr was dog shit and had what seemed like his worst game as a pro, I blame him more than the o-line.

The question marks for me coming out of the game are what they were going into this season and everyone since Reggie arrived. A lack of lbs who can cover TE and RBs, a questionable secondary and another edge rusher to compliment Mack.

Win or lose at Denver I think the team will be fine. The offense is loaded with talent. Are they the team that crushed the Jets or the one that got crushed by Washington. Probably somewhere in between which baring any major injuries should make the playoffs again.


3:32 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Sandy, that's a bit harsh, though not entirely untrue. But like any QB, doesn't Carr perform better with protection? The Raiders O-line crumbled to pressure by the Skins D-line. I also attribute failure to playcalling, which we have a rookie OC in his 3rd game, calling plays from behind for the first time. Bowles was calling an end-around when the Skins D-line was in the backfield for the hand-off.

I agree, this game does not define the Raiders. They are a far better team than we saw on Sunday.

5:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good point NY the play calling shown a bit of a bad light on Bowles. It is like he did not have an answer once they fell behind. The end around I saw coming awful play call when the run had not been set up.

Sorry for the harshness on Carr but he looked tentative , the deep ball on the second play of the game to Cooper was an awful throw. Also 2 of the 4 sacks I blame him for holding the ball too long that the o-line.

Hopefully they rely on Lynch and play some bully ball and bounce back in Denver

Have a good weekend

3:47 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Indeed, while I wasn't happy with play call on the interception, I never thought that would set the tone for the entire game. The Raiders never recovered.

4:40 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Carr held the ball too long because of the coverage on the WRs. Nobody was open, and nobody was trying. Downing (not Bowles) is our OC, and he didn't adjust the game plan. Hopefully, they will prepare for man-zone this week, because that is what Denver is going to hit us with. It worked well for Washington, and I hope the Raiders have an answer for it, or otherwise, it will be dismal.

Carr's pick was thrown into double coverage with the Safety barely making it to grab the ball. A perfectly thrown ball, but should've never been thrown. Lynch acted like he gave up. The bottom line, the O-line did not do their job in both the run or passing game. They got knocked around. How often do you see Osemele get knocked backwards into Carr (he did 3 times against Washington). I think they got caught looking ahead. The problem I had, no one was over talking with the line or Carr for that matter about adjustments, because I'm afraid they didn't have any.

Don't forget, Mike McCoy is the new OC in Denver too. He has a knack of exposing the Raiders defense, especially when he was with the Chargers. Phillip Rivers is not the same without him. I hate this game, especially after a loss like last week. I'm still rooting for the Silver & Black, but they have to come out on top tomorrow. Lynch has to come out huge, and if he doesn't, I hope they give Richard a chance. Cooper has to take care of the ball, already too many drops this season. Hopefully Conley and Sean Smith play, both have been lights out when they do. Bottom line, JUST WIN, BABY!

4:54 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Yes, Downing. Nate, I have to disagree about Sean Smith being lights out. I've seen WRs run right past him. He's better in zone, but last week we saw the Raiders zone defense leave receivers wide open at times.

Kirk Cousins was 25 of 30 for 365 and 3 TDs. That's not lights out for any Raider defender. They got schooled by an average team.

Let's hope the Raiders can leave their protests back in DC and concentrate on playing football today.

5:31 AM  
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