Sunday, December 04, 2011

One Postgame Take

Back, by unpopular demand: The Clown Car. I thought about firing it up after the Chiefs game, was really tempted to do it after the Broncos game, and now there's no stopping it.

I actually didn't see the game, and judging by the comments here, I picked a great time to miss my first Raiders game of the season. I was on the road, tuning in when I could via radio, and each time I dialed the game up, the worse it got.

Because I didn't see it, I don't really have a detailed take, so I will defer to those of you who actually saw it (starting with the understandably exasperated commentary on the game seen in the earlier take).

After the Bears game, I said that it looked like Michael Bush's legs might be tired. Now I'm reading this courtesy of Steve Corkran: "Raiders coach Hue Jackson said earlier this week that he didn’t see any signs of running back Michael Bush wearing down as a result of 84 carries the past three games.On Sunday, Bush looked nothing like the player who amassed 530 yards rushing in place of injured starter Darren McFadden the five games before Sunday. The Dolphins held Bush to 18 yards on 10 carries, with a long of 3 yards."

And what's up with Richard Seymour? This is the second season in a row that he's been ejected from a game, and earlier this year he completely lost his composure against the Patriots. For a young team that's trying to turn the corner on a culture of undisciplined behavior, it's unhelpful when the star veteran on defense is prone to going bonkers.

Meanwhile, it's time to put the Tebow jokes to rest. Not only does Tebow have "scoreboard" on the Raiders this year, he has helped lead the Broncos to an improbable tie for the divisional lead. At this point, the Broncos are nothing less than a viable threat to thwart our playoff aspirations.

The Clown Car is sputtering down the road tonight. Let's just hope the wheels don't fall off.


Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders Now Have To Consider A Wild Card Spot...@ 2-n-2 in the AFCW we are now the #6 seed...

The Current Play Off Picture: Week #14

Notes; Raiders hold the tie breakers over the Texans -n- Jets while "NE" holds the tie breaker over us...


"OakTown"-7-n-5 Div 2-2
14 Dec 11 OAK @ GB
15 Dec 18 DET @ OAK
16 Dec 24 OAK @ KC
17 Jan 01 SD @ OAK

"Donkey"!!! 7-n-5 Div 3-2
14 Dec 11 CHI @ DEN
15 Dec 18 NE @ DEN
16 Dec 24 DEN @ BUF
17 Jan 01 KC @ DEN

Houston 9-n-3 Div 4-0
14 Dec 11 HOU @ CIN
15 Dec 18 CAR @ HOU
16 Dec 22 HOU @ IND
17 Jan 01 TEN @ HOU

Tenn 7-n-5 Div 1-2
14 Dec 11 NO @ TEN
15 Dec 18 TEN @ IND
16 Dec 24 JAC @ TEN
17 Jan 01 TEN @ HOU


"NE" 9-n-3 Div 3-1
14 Dec 11 NE @ WAS
15 Dec 18 NE @ DEN
16 Dec 24 MIA @ NE
17 Jan 01 BUF @ NE

Jets 7-n-5 Div 3-2
14 Dec 11 KC @ NYJ
15 Dec 18 NYJ @ PHI
16 Dec 24 NYG @ NYJ
17 Jan 01 NYJ @ MIA


Ravens 9-n-3 Div 4-0
14 Dec 11 IND @ BAL
15 Dec 18 BAL @ SD
16 Dec 24 CLE @ BAL
17 Jan 01 BAL @ CIN

Pitts 9-n-3 Div 2-2
14 Dec 08 CLE @ PIT
15 Dec 19 PIT @ SF
16 Dec 24 STL @ PIT
17 Jan 01 PIT @ CLE

Cinci 7-n-5 Div 2-3
14 Dec 11 HOU @ CIN
15 Dec 18 CIN @ STL
16 Dec 24 ARI @ CIN
17 Jan 01 BAL @ CIN

10:24 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

The Really Sad Reality Here Is That This Side Of The Ball Really Misses Mr Davis' Hand Upon them...

And that’s not something you can go out and replace with another body…This Post Davis “D” will now have to find it’s new identity and how long this takes is what will determine who we are…

RIP Mr Davis but we are still in need your hand upon this team and wish you were here….

Signed: PantyRaider

11:02 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

da Bears Lost Forte..."KC" Lost Orton...I Suppose Now "NE" Will Lose Brady???

They are all taken down by Tebow’s God as their battles approach…Ya…His God is fighting for them…“I go before you to make your enemies fall at your feet” saith the “Tebow God”!!!!

If this God of his is watching freakin football and helping them win instead of helping the 10’s of millions who really need his hand than that ain’t a God worth worshiping!!!

That is the biggest bunch of freakin religious fanatical “BS” I have ever heard in my lifetime!!!….

Maybe I shouldn’t be so outspoken but dammit I tired of this religious tripe!!!…And LOSING!!!

PantyRaider...Taken Down By The Gods!!!/_

11:36 PM  
Anonymous memdf said...

About as bad a game as they could play. Clueless on D zero pass rush and unimaginative on O. With no outside running threat, Hue should have come up with something other than trying to set up play action or hope for a long run with a bunch of off tackles to Bush. Two TEs like the pats? Dropped balls by Boss don't help. The vikes gave the game to the Jesus mules but it is what it is. The disciple leads the John fox (wont forget what he pulled) led Jesus mules to the division promised land unless the bully gets here quick.

4:41 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

The O-line, which had been solid most of the year, suddenly looks weak. Barnes was a mess yesterday and Satele is absentee in the middle.

For such a big guy, Bush really struggles to protect his QB on blitzes.

Can the Raiders be the only team that beats GB this year? I think it's possible but they will have to put yesterday behind them and play their best football.

5:07 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

First off, Tebow has more swagger than most defensive dudes. Those who elected to bag on him early were pantywastes, and there is no room on the TeBus, which sealed it's doors once it left 7 weeks ago, back when I was waiting for this to happen. Mocking success is typical Clown car, and the polar opposite of Tim Tebow is Richard Seymour. The Raiders will likely go 8-8 this year because the Clown car is, I agree, at the tailgate. When Tebow leacves the NFL with his head high to pursue bigger things, we'll see where the crybabies are, and where they are not. What a fun season. The Raiders smell like mediocrity again, and if they don't lose the big shoes and orange wigs 9yes, I said Orange) wigs soon, they, and their minions are toast. As for me, I will, along with The Take, throw credulous smack upon the naysayers who are like squatters. Complain, complain complain. I see a team that has the talent to squash Green Bay, but the temperment. Sorry. Full-on CLOWN. Regroup Raiders. Get a vitamin Tebow shot and move on. Their defense actually Defends, and they find a way to win.

5:37 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


Fuck yourself!!....I was also one of the few who said I liked what I saw last season when we played....Than came all that "BS" fanatical religious "Tebow Saves" CRAP and I'm NOT going to support that in the least...So clown yourself up with as much putrid orange as you like and just on that "Holy Roller" wagon too...It ain't no damn Ark and God didn't have it built nor did he seal the damn door....

Get the gad damn religious hypocrisy out of the freakin sports!!!

Total Dumb Asses!!!

8:03 AM  
Blogger H said...

Had a bad cold all last week and over the weekend. The game didn't help either. Even one of Dr. H's Smoked Porters didn't help.

We are not playoff worthy yet.

Seymour shouldn't have gotten himself ejected, but I can understand his frustration. Incognito was holding and other stuff all game long and not getting called. He also cheapshotted McClain on a play. Fortunately, he got caught on that one.

It used to be in the NFL that you could take care of those things on the field if the refs weren't calling them. But, now you get called for standing up for yourself.

Miami was playing better, but not that much better.

Everyone talks about how we have one of the best D-Lines in the league, then suddenly the Miami O-Line looks like the the Old Hogs from the 80's playing against Slippery Rock. Something doesn't compute, or maybe I just had one too many Porters.


8:33 AM  
Anonymous Arkansan Raider said...

On the Tebow front, I've no problem with a guy being open about his faith. My problem is with the media making themselves all-Tebow-all-day channels and *trying* to hack people off with it, rubbing our noses in it, etc.

There were a whole host of problems with the game yesterday, leading up to a perfect storm of clown car proportions. I think number one was Bresnahan's play-calling. Number two was poor reffing--they neutralized both our Dline *and* Oline by judicious timing of calls and non-calls. Number three was some sort of mental dullness that was team-wide, but seemed especially heavy on Carson Palmer. Dude was spectacularly off all day.



12:48 PM  
Blogger H said...


That pretty much sums up the game I saw. Agree on Tebow. My only problem with it is they make it sound like he's the only guy on the field. Sampson vs. the Philistines.

A decent DC will figure him out.


3:37 PM  
Blogger H said...

By the way. If you want to stop Tim Tebow, call Nick Saban.


3:38 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

Panty, I think I like ya... yep, I'm certain... I like ya...

4:04 PM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

i see us WINNING the packer game IF:

a) mcfadden comes back

b) if the two receivers come back

c) any combination of a and b comes back.

without these guys, we have two chances... slim and none...

4:50 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

The fish played "keep away" with the Raiders.

Fish had ball for 38 minutes, compared to 22 minutes for Raiders.

Fish pounded ball on ground with 44 rushes, and ate up clock, while Raiders defense was helpless, again, to stop run.

I'm tired of brow beating Raiders every time they come up with a stinker, which is all to often.

They must now win 3 of last 4 games. They can, but will they ??

5:35 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I anticipated some match-up problems along Miami's lines. However, I didn't anticipate bad coaching would go along with that. Really poor game planning on both sides of the ball... although, it's tough to game plan around stupid penalties.

The Raiders might not have as severe matchup problems along the lines facing GB, but Aaron Rogers poses a huge problem for the Raiders secondary. The Raiders have been torched by much lesser QB's this year.

The Giants stuck with GB on Sunday, and somebody has to beat them this year. So why not the Raiders! Raiders have been know to bounce back after a bad loss.

7:59 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

My "take"... next year looks promising. There is no way that this crew can compete with Pittsburgh or New England unless the two QB's get whacked and Palmer connects with the starters. McFading needs bionic ankles and Bush needs a break. Sorry guys, I calls em like I sees em. I will be ecstactic if i'm wrong.

OakTown : Prove Me Wrong.

8:49 PM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

hey oaktown, you're a realist. call it like you see it man...

11:21 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

My take: The Raiders have been building and tweeking and struggling to improve for nine years. After marked improvement last year, the expectation for this year has always been playoffs. That hasn't changed.

If the Raiders want to lay down and let a less developed and less talented Broncos team beat them out for the division then they probably won't be any better next year either.

In terms of advancing in the playoffs, anything can happen. I can remember a wildcard team winning the Super Bowl.

Now is not the time to talk about next year. Playoffs! Now!!

4:39 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

We saw signs of this kind of brain-fart play calling last season with Hue. To be honest, I expected more games this season that way.
I think he needs to focus on being the Head Coach, and let Saunders call more plays. Raiders have a knack for losing games they should win; and winning games they should lose. This season is no different.

If we are going to beat Green Bay, we need to run the ball, and eat the clock. We have to find ways to keep Aaron Rodgers off the field, and we have to score TD's, not Field Goals. Bush needs to have his A-Game on Sunday. We need to try more "Spread Offense" plays in the Red Zone; especially within the 10 yard line. Why not spread the field with a single back, and then have the option of play action, and better running lanes? This is what made Gruden-Callahan successful.

Defensively, we need QB pressure. I'm not worried about GB's running game. If we can't get pressure on Rodgers, he will pick us apart. I think the only team they've played that runs a strong 4-front, while the DBs play man is this last week vs. the Giants; and they almost pulled it out.

I hope D-Moore is able to come back, we need him on Special Teams and WR. I think Carson and he were starting to get in a zone with each other when he went out.

I do think this is a winnable game for us, I just don't expect to. Especially the way we didn't play on Sunday. I hope this is a wake up call for us, and I hope our team sees the possibility of not reaching the playoffs; enough for them to start punching opponents in the face again. WAKE UP GUYS, IT'S GAME TIME! JUST WIN, BABY!

6:27 AM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

yes, nate, punch them in the gut... but let's not get caught this time eh? ;o)

8:55 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

Scorp, Nate... right on. Fight On! I say let Seymour clock Rodgers good :-) Stop Clay Matthews!!!!!! dudes a Hannimal. This game can be won... just look at the near collapse of "New Indy".... cmon Oak! Prove Me Wrong!

11:21 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Wow... I got down to "Oak Town's" post and then I remembered why I quit reading this forum again.

Is he a Tebow fan, or a Raider fan? Hard for me to tell... looks more like a Tebow fan... knock yourself out bubs! Just don't expect me to join you while sucking a 50% career passer's cock.

I agree with RT... Bush's legs look tired and slow. This makes all the yahoo's saying we should trade McF and keep Bush look even more ridiculous. We need McFadden back!

And if Hue is purposely babying him for the play-offs... he is not going to make it as a NFL coach. This is a mans game, and the purpose of the NFL is to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. We are now in the position of having to win 2 of 4 to win the AFCW (Denver and OSB's butt-boy Tebow are not winning 3 of 4).

This is not possible with a humungous RB that cannot hit a hole (or run outside.)

Palmer did look off at Miami... but cmon... the people he had to throw to weren't even starting three weeks ago... how many QB's can lose their three favorite targets (remember everyone bitching that DHB was benched after Palmer arrived) and not look a little lost? The only game Palmer looked pro-bowl was vs SD, and he didn't complete a single pass to Schillens or DHB. Those are now his only two receivers. Its not as easy as it looks folks...

Especially considering this should be like game 2 of the season for Plamer... most QB's would be just coming out of training camp in week 7.

The clown car is not the only ride for the Raiders. We WERE once one of the top offenses in the NFL with McFadden and a full lineup of receivers.

Nobody remembers this?

Nobody remembers we were just on a three game winning streak 2 games ago?

5:12 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...


It sure is a problem when Raiders have more stars in trainers room, then on field.

Are these guys too hurt to play, or just soft ?

Raiders defense sure looks soft when it comes to stopping the run.

Miami pounded 44 rushes for 209 yards, and held ball for 38 minutes of game.

Raiders offense spent most of game watching from sidelines.

5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Raiders go 2-2 and denver goes 2-2 they're in and we're out.

I agree Raider d has got to step up. 2 Butkus winners @ linebacker plus Kam Wimbely. Solid front 4 rotation and more than adequate cover corners. Enough already with the 275+ rushing games


5:36 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

A big "if" at this point but nevertheless ...

If the Raiders can establish a robust rushing attack early and often and maintain it for 4 Qs, the Pack can be beat.

The fact is that the Pack are horrible in stopping the run giving up 4.9 YPC and ranked #29 in the league.

A mix of creative, diversified run plays and short passes to Bush, Reece, and hopefully T. Jones to move the chains, control the tempo, consume clock, and keep Rodgers butt on the bench is the best and probably only way the Raiders come out on top.

If it is a pass happy shoot-out, the Pack win handily.

6:19 PM  
Anonymous gary said...


If Raiders go 2-2 and denver goes 2-2 they're in and we're out.

Not for sure.

Depends on which two teams they beat, and which two we beat.

If we beat SD and KC, and they lose to KC and anybody else... we are in with a 4-2 conference record.

The tie-breaker after that is common opponents, and that could be anything right now.

Fer instance, if they lose to Chicago, we beat them.... etc etc... plus if we beat Det, they lost to them.

Right now the only advantage they have is 3-2 in division, and they beat Mia and KC while we lost to them.

This is not over.

We for sure have to beat both SD and KC, IMO.

BTW... Chicago's defense is perfect to manhandle Oak Sts butt-boy Tebow.

They can stop the run and have the secondary to not get burned... I think Chicago beats Denver.

No WAY can Den score enough to keep up with NE.

7:14 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

A mix of creative, diversified run plays and short passes to Bush, Reece, and hopefully T. Jones to move the chains, control the tempo, consume clock, and keep Rodgers butt on the bench is the best and probably only way the Raiders come out on top.

The only way we win is with Taiwon Jones to mix it up outside.. Bush has rarely been good at outside runs, and looks slow even on the inside.

Corkran said it too... his legs look tired.

If he is our only back again... the game will be over early.

Hue should GAMBLE and stick Jones in regardless of health if he is waiting for McF to be 100%, IMO.

7:19 PM  
Anonymous gary said...


This defense is tough to figure out... the games we stopped the run we won, but when they didn't WHOA BOY do we suck at it.

I am hoping the good run defense shows up for 3 of the final 4 games.

And McFadden healthy for 3 of the final 4.

If those two happen, we sweep the final three games, perhaps easily.

7:23 PM  
Blogger x said...

"The QB must go down, and he must go down hard". That's the key in GB and was why Miami was a debacle.

No pressure on the QB.

Trevor Scott has been invisible all year. The injuries to Shaughnessy and Moss hurt maybe more than all the DB injuries. Maybe Moss gets back for GB. Houston looks diminished this year as well.

On offense, sometimes teams just collapse the middle of the Raider O-line and it seems to always be when Satele is in there. Wiz and Heyer seem to be a stronger option. Satele is scrappy but just gets overpowered too often.

Oh, and McClain appears to be an idiot. Take wrote that he "put himself in a stupid situation". If the police reports are correct and he pulled out a gun and shot it next to a dude's ear like a worthless thug, then he was the stupid situation. Just hope the guy doesn't end up being our JaMarcus on defense.

9:43 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...


I agree that it would be nice to have T. Jones to add a different look and outside threat.

I also think it is important to give Reece 3 or 4 important carries to keep the D honest. Did he even have a single carry vs. Miami?

Although I agree that Bush has probably been over-worked, I will say that we have faced some very tough interior DLines in Min., Chi., and Mia.

The real question is how good are GBay at stopping runs between the tackles? Judging by the Giants game and their season stats ... not very good.

I firmly believe with good playcalling and top notch performances by the OLine and Bush that 2 and 3 yard carries become 4, 5, and 6 yard plays.

Using the no huddle and short, safe passes on 1st down, and runs on 2nd down would be a way to manage the game and keep the OLine on the field.

What it really boils down to in my mind are 4 important things;

(1) Hue calling the type of game where the Pack's run D is exposed. This doesn't mean running 3 straight plays between the tackles but it does mean sticking with a creative rushing attack and still taking selected shots down the field.

(2) Getting off to a fast start and playing the game with the lead in order to keep the rushing game fully in the equation.

(3) The Raiders run D playing stout

(4) The Raiders D creating sacks, turnovers, and dynamic plays.

10:01 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

Gary, sir, one should be a football fan before selecting a particular team. Tebow is beatin' Palmer in the win category, and you'd be speaking otherwise if Oak had won six of the last seven with him, but, FACT, my Raider defense would have mathematically prevented that MIRACLE too. Perhaps OAK players could gut check off our comments, rather than the hoopla crap. That's what gets Oak in trouble in the first place, third quarter false swagger. I dread being up by 14 at the half, because they go to the locker room and soak in it. But, truth be told, that's why I'm a Raider fan who keeps it real, they are fun to watch win, and lose. Drama. OTB hits sack. Click, Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

11:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hue please make the raiders practice hard in pads all week long before we face the packers. Note if the raiders don't practice in pads guys will get tired then the penalties will start adding up..........please practice in pads before all games.

3:49 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

Tebow is beatin' Palmer in the win category, and you'd be speaking otherwise if Oak had won six of the last seven with him,

Perhaps if I were a Bronco fan... right now I look at him as a less talented Vick... he is winning most of these games on his FEET... and because of the Bronco DEFENSE. If the defense wasn't playing so well he would have won what? 2 games so far? Perhaps one? And everyone would be talking about who they should get to replace him.

Sorry... not swallowing anyone that completes ten passes a game in the NFL.

You can knock yourself out though..

I do wish the Raiders defense was playing as well as the Broncos... that would be a legitimate point... not sure what football fan would think Tebow has anything to do with that.

Their DC and two stud players are getting it done.... they are winning DESPITE Tebow right now... Palmer would have just as many wins if only one player was here MCFADDEN.

BTW... Palmer is 3-2 as a starter.

Thats close to a playoff percentage usually.

Check yourself.

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although I agree that Bush has probably been over-worked, I will say that we have faced some very tough interior DLines in Min., Chi., and Mia.

Arguably two of the best in football... which is why Tebow might still be in trouble this weekend.

The real question is how good are GBay at stopping runs between the tackles? Judging by the Giants game and their season stats ... not very good.

Their quickness outside makes it tough even if T. Jones plays... but I think just the THREAT opens the playbook up. Teams post-McF have figured out we have nothing outside so all they are doing is clogging up the middle and playing off our receivers.

That was impossible with McF because he was torching everyone on the outside...

He was our MVP. This team doesn't make the playoffs without him.

8:46 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

I sorta agree with ya Gary, but as for me, winning is a team thing and Broncs would beat Oak if sched this Sunday without our stars... doesnt make me a Donkey fan... but theyre getting it done with a guy who they too wish was better... maybe Oak can learn from that to beat Green Bay. Its possible but not probable. Check, mate.

10:48 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

"Check, mate" from the I Heart TeBlow fan OTB ... huh?

6:50 PM  
Anonymous memdf said...

Lucky for you that tblow has now made national news. You can now worship on more channels. GET OFF THIS SITE tblower.

Can the Raiders adjust on O to the injuries, ie., no breakaway, speed threat? Maybe run two tight ends, maybe three with Ausberry, spread type O vs Bush off tackle time after time?

7:41 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

Every single speed guy on our entire offense besides DHB is now out with a foot injury.

Its not the shoes?

Well Murphy... who looks like he'd rather go bowling than take a hit.

9:04 PM  
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9:34 PM  
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9:34 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

You guys crack me up! Keep it rollin' it gets fierce in the cyber hole when truth rings! Good job Take. You have some very colorful ones here. I love it.

9:40 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...


After you put away the Te-Blow pom poms and radio schtick non-sense vernacular, we anxiously await your 1st real Raider football take. I'm sure it will give us some valuable insight into your fine football mind.

10:37 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

OTB's getting a bit of Raider Take hazing treatment here, but he seems to have a jaunty enough personality to handle it.

6:55 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...


7:35 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Hard to deny Tebow has the Broncos playing like contenders for the AFCW. I think this week they play the Bears, who only scored 3 on the Chiefs.

Anyone who thinks the rejuvenated Broncos can't handle the Bears needs a reality check. If the Raiders drop a tough game against the Pack, we could easily be in the hole by one full game with three to play.

It's crunch time!

9:52 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Da Bears are in balls to the wall, playoff survivor mode and their D is tailor made to contain Te-Blow. I expect a low scoring defensive struggle.

Da Bears 16
Donkeys 10

10:33 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

I think that this will be the week that Denver gets knocked back into reality. Go Bears... I think the Raiders have the talent... but not the discipline... to keep the Cheese at bay... Go Raiders... Score big and penalize all day. Chiefs and Bolts all bit dead... important game because of the Fins game. Pirate nose smells wild cards roasing on an open fire.

12:10 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

Calico Jack... great take! Buncha friggin frustrated pirates... love it! Now walk the plank.

12:13 PM  
Anonymous memdf said...

Here's an interesting run down on GM candidates.


5:58 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

Anyone who thinks the rejuvenated Broncos can't handle the Bears needs a reality check.

I reject your reality and think the Chicago defense will destroy Tebow.

They win 9-3.

If not for the miracle catch at halftime KC could have easily lost that game... and I assert Denvers offense is as bad as KCs right now.

They are 25th and 27th in the league.

7:30 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

Big Ben is one of the giants that needs to be out of our way. Bratty Brady might have a nervous breakdown anyway. I like our chances mo-betta now, because one thing Palmer has bigtime is: composure... hmmmm.

8:11 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well it's Friday and time for some inspirational hope because there's not much out there unless of course your a "T-Bowne" like "OTB"!!!

Once your foots been in your mouth it doesn't matter how man times you spit your breath still smells like old rotten socks!!...Arrrrgh!!

So where would we get our inspiration when "T-Bowne" has the heavens all rapped up and the favor of the gods??

“I know he’s having a tough day, but the thing about him, he’s tough,” Jackson said. “He’s got his brothers here to lean on. The whole team, we’re going to wrap our arms around him, and take care of him, and love on him and get him to where he needs to be while he helps us attain our goal which is winning a football game.”

I remember and I believe!!...

It was Houston and a potential loss against a superior team in there house where we had never won...Not even beating them in our own...It was also right after the loss of Mr Davis and this team was INSPIRED to "V"!!...Can they now get behind "CJ" as another inspirational advantage as he plays his heart out in the midst of all the pains of his loss???

WE all saw what happened in Miami after a week of disgust centering on "DeathRo" and how this team played with disgust that Sunday....Can they come out and play with heart this week feeding upon the commitment of a "CB" who has lost so much but still willing to give his all for his team??...

Let's freakin hope so because if not I hate to think about this off season and all the crying that will be echoing threw the Raider Nation!!!

PantyRaider...Please "CJ" Bring It Home Baby!!!/_

11:29 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Gary - I hope you're right, but I see the Bears as totally imploding since Cutler went down while the Broncos are riding a wave of sustained success. Two teams going in exact opposite directions.

Plus, I don't have the Bears stats handy, but I seem to remember reading their run defense as being suspect. Tebow could get 20-25 carries in an option offense that the Bears have not seen.

Put it this way, I'd rather the Raiders were playing Da Bears as opposed to the Packers this week.

On a side note, I refuse to spend $250 for a single share of the Packer's fake stock!

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Last week, and here on out, is why it was so important for the Raiders to win. We CANNOT take any team for granted, and that is what we did against Miami.
If we lose to Green Bay, and the Donkeys win against Chicago; that will knock us out of the playoffs. We have to win out and root for the Donkeys to lose 2. We cannot end the season tied with the Donkeys. They will most likely lose to New England, but we will have to root for Buffalo (on a slide), and KC (on a slide) to beat them to keep our playoff hopes alive.

1:37 PM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

...ok indoctrination received, as i am a Take Rookie. T-Word positively spoken is off limits... (butIstillthinkthekidsgotpotentialcuzwecouldntcontainem)...

OK, I am still leaning into seeing the Oaks beating Cheeze and making history and pissing off the entire NFL by racking up touchdowns and penalties, I'll call it necessary roughness. We'll see what happens, and I will not throw props if Aaron Rodgers does what he's capable of. It's just not proper here. It's like talking about scurvy on a pirate ship... sheesh you guys are sensitive... KaPow!
OTB walks plank for a dip til Sunday...

5:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


Rodgers is what he is...Damn good and prolley too much for out "D" to handle...Our "O" has to win this one for us with only half their roster healthy...

I don't have a problem posting I wish we had Elway back when or Moon...Quality players are quality players but some are just not welcome in the Raider Nation...Like Brady after that "Tuck" rule and now "T-Bowne" after all this "BS" religious crap!!!...

Is there any Raider fan who wouldn't like to have Rodgers in "S&B"???...

Aside from that why would any of us pimp another team from the AFCW???...But it has been done here and done repeatedly while bashing our Raiders...Now in retrospect that Pimping is rather foolish!!!

"Polio -n- Haily will dominate the Raiders"!!!...Ya Right!!!

"McDaniels will lead that "Donkey" to the promised land"!!!...LoL...Now that was stupidity!!

"SD" will do anything other than fall off the cliff...Who'da thunk??

So now it's how the gods are blessing "T-Bone" while leading that "Donkey" to the promised land...

PantyRaider....Just more tripe!!!/_

10:23 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well Call Out The Gods And Begin The Celebrations...The Earth Is Turned Upside Down!!

At least that’s the reality if your in Asia at the moment as a Lunar Eclipse is awakening all the would be prophets and fortellers of fortune!!…Beat the drums and the dish pans to warrant off the evil spirits These fools really believe this holy crap!!!

Well maybe there will be some trickle down effect into Sunday as those who were on top slide to the bottom???..Or so we can all hope but stay away from those Football Prayers because “T-Bowne” has that all wrapped up with the gods so no one else can be heard!!!

Holy Eclipse BatMan!!!…Lunar Darkness!!!

6:04 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

This Marks The Begaing Of The End!!!

A total lunar eclipse took place on June 15, 2011. It was the first of two such eclipses in 2011. The second will occur on December 10, 2011.

Oh!!…My Gods!!…It’s the whole freakin 2011 football season from training camps til the present!!!…Pack your bags the Rapture approaches...LoL!!!

6:10 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

15 yards, PantyRaiders, unsportsmanlike use of the blog.

8:43 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...



I Challenge that penalty!!!

It very well applies to football ever sense the damn "Mediot"s and religious fanatics and the freakin NFL went on a "God Saves Tebow" campaign...It just goes to illustrate the inherent ignorance of people who believe in such outright stupidity and than go about pimping it!!...

For these fools to believe that a Lunar Eclipse is somehow wielding some magical mystical powers over their trivial freakin lives is the exact same type of ignorance that make one believe the Gods are watching football and choosing the winner by blessing Tebow!!!

Same-Same whether it be from the west or the far east...Same damn religious ignorance!!!

Zebra: Upon Further Review...Challenge Upheld No penalty On The Play...PantyRaider Will Not Be Charged A Time Out!!

PantyRaider...Thanks For Playing!!!/_

12:12 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Why the Raiders Will Beat the Packers Sunday

Battle for the #6 Seed:

Cinci Holds The Tie Breaker By Conference Record 6-n-4...Houston/Bal

Titans 5/4....Indy/Jacks/Houston
Raiders 5/5..."KC"/"SD"?
Jets 5/5...."KC"/Miami


Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss Predictions Week #14: Game that could affect the “PO” picture….

Cinci 13-10 over Texans
Jets 16-9 over “KC”
NO 26-24 over Titans
“Donkey” 13-6 over da Bears
“SD” 30-21 over Bills
“NE” 23-20 over Skins
Ravens 23-9 0ver Colts
Cheese 38-14 over Raiders…Yikes!!!

1:14 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Week #14 Match-Up...

Raiders -vs- "GB" "O"-vs-"D"

Punting-#5 Ave 50.8yds

Sacks-#5 Tie.............."OL"-#21
Int's-#11 Tie
..........................Punting-#30 Ave 45yds

8:12 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Not a big fan of stats but we're certainly far enough into the season that there may be something meaningful.

On paper, the Raiders have done well to run the ball and sack the QB.

On the other side, the Packers are the #1 scoring team in the NFL, and they have the most INTs. Apparently, they have an opportunistic defense and an offense that makes good on those opportunities.


Go Raiders!!

4:59 AM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

well folks, i can only say GO RAIDERS as i will probably miss this game COMPLETELY. well, not completely as i'll have my radio with me listening. the wife and i will be attending a surprise b-day party for my God-daughter in san jose. my dvr is set to record though but that's nothing compared to watching the game live. you guys have fun, scream a 'lil extra for me and again - GO RAIDERS!

9:47 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...


9:54 AM  
Blogger OakTownBlues said...

The Original lambeau Leap was vs. The Raiders in 1993, Dec 26... first time theyd hit the playoffs since 1 9 7 2... Looking forward to a leap from the Oaks when werte up by 23 points, which is twice the spread we're afforded... I'll take Oakland and 11.5 points!!! J-W-B! Save McFadden for AFC games.

11:08 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Gameday thread is up.

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