Friday, August 12, 2011

One Postgame Take

Well, that was...okay, I guess. Nothing spectacular, but nothing particularly disheartening, unless you were looking for a more vivid reassurance that Nnamdi won't be sorely missed.

As Steve Corkran noted in today's postgame analysis, "Simply put, there is no realistic way to replace a player of Asomugha’s considerable talent. It’s going to take heightened play from every defensive player to help offset the loss of Asomugha."

Well, it's obvious we're a work in progress on that front, and we've got about four weeks left to turn that goal into a reality.

With each passing day (pun intended), Denarius Moore is looking like the anti-DHB: an electric, sure-handed playmaker right out of the gates. Let's hope it's not just a mirage. But he took it from the practice field to the playing field last night, and that's a good sign.

Our quarterbacks all looked sharp, but it's not like we were playing against an elite foe for 60 minutes. In other words, it's probably way too early to come to any real conclusions about the state of the Raiders in 2011.

To be honest, if you asked me today, I would tell you that I won't be surprised if the Raiders fail once again to achieve a winning record. On paper, I'm not seeing exactly how we are going to improve over last year, particularly with what looks like a tougher schedule ahead.

At the same time, I also wouldn't be surprised if we contend for the division title. You can't see culture "on paper." And I believe that the Raiders culture may be reaching a turning point under the guiding hand of Hue Jackson.

I've been trying to put my finger on it, but then yesterday, in the comments section of the previous take, Calico Jack took the words out of my mouth (and improved them, which isn't the first time). Here's an excerpt:

I have been following Hue Jackson's interviews, press conferences, and activities throughout the off-season. There are a few things about him that I appreciate, admire, and find refreshing.

(1) Communication skills; he is genuinely a passionate, articulate, positive, enthusiastic communicator.

(2) Energy...His energy and call for up-tempo practices is contagious.

(3) The message itself; zero waffling or uncertainty about what this is all about...WINNING!

(4) Expectations; once again, Hue doesn't pull any punches or ease into the expectation that the Raiders will win the division THIS year, not next year. The bar is clearly set for 2011.

(5) Accountability; he makes no excuses for the team, the lockout, his 1st year as head coach.

Does it sound like I'm not sticking my neck out and making a bold prediction for 2011? Well, then, you got me, because I'm not, at least not yet. Check back with me later. But if you've got one, I'm all ears.

265 Comments:

Blogger nyraider said...

Under a different style of defense I would say the loss of Asomugha was no big deal but in the Raiders M2M coverage, he will be sorely missed. He neutralizes the other team's best WR.

10 penalties in last night's game, three by Barnes. This guy represent the current dud in a long string of OT failures. Send him up the Seattle with Cable.

I don't think I need to see much more to believe DHB is a bust. He is being schooled by a 5th round pick, after being schooled by a 4th round pick last year.

Fortunately, we finally have some talented players at WR in Ford, Moore, Schilens and Murphy.

Drafting Russell and DHB #1's has hurt this team. Russell was tougher to see coming (at least for me), but DHbust was a no brainer. Big mistake! We could have Eugene or Oher playing OT instead of Barnes.

Corkran previously suggested it's time for DHB to stop being a decoy and start playing. Yeah! Good luck with that.

9:00 AM  
Blogger Raiders Only said...

I thought our corners looked awful. We need to go after Kelvin Hayden and we need to sign Lofa Tatupu to come in and play OLB or our defense is in trouble this season! Other then that, the offense looked good. Heyward bey is still a joke but Moore is a playmaker, he had nearly 40 receiving yards.

9:03 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

The Defense looks aggressive...BUT, as usual, will the Reg season look different once Al has the final say on the Defensive gameplan for the weeks ahead. Nnamdi said it, he said they do all different blitzes and coverages during pre season and then "for some reason" it goes back to the same ole gameplans during Reg season.
Warren Sapp also said that Mr.Davis steps all over the gameplans on Thurs and the players have to redo their assignments for game day.

Can't take what they are doing in pre season as what they will do in the Reg. Offense looks to want to work at a fast pace, that looks much better that a slow walk to the huddle, slow walk to the L.O.S....can't get too excited either way in the 1st preseason gm with such little practise. DB's look scary, D-line looks good.

JONES

JONES

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Our pass defense deplorable. 2nd and 15, and couldn't stop them from gaining a first down; little to no pressure from the front. Sure they had their moments, but we went preventive on long down situations and couldn't pin them. That is what plagues our defense. We need to keep the pressure on, regardless of the situation. They didn't get into long down situations by giving the QB time to pick us apart.
Yes, we gained an overall 329 yards of total offense; but we gave their offense 400 yards; 290 of which were through passing.
Not impressed with that, especially since some of the toughest AFC/NFC teams are passing oriented teams (Patriots, Jets, Pittsburgh, Chargers, Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Packers, Vikings, Saints, etc).

10:20 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"27-to-36" Which Is A Role Reversal Over Last Season...Rushes -to-Passes!!!

Our personality was different last night…We came out the gate as a Passing “O” rather than a Rushing “O”….Now a few things stick out about this that make me excited…

#1…It worked…And it worked to our "WR"s who caught 9/133yds…

#2…12/115yds went to our "RB"s-n-"TE"s so their production was still there…

#3…Only 13/36% hit the ground so our "QB"s were 64% efficient which is definitely an improvement….

#4…Our “QB” combined for only 2 Sacks losing a measly 14yds…Now that’s spectacular considering the last few seasons and such a young “OL”…

#5…Our passing game had 3 fumbles but didn’t lose any…That says we hustled to the “Pig” on the turf!!!

#6…Our "QB"s/“O” never turned that “Pig” over…No Int’s!!!

#7…Not everything was so great: Red Zone n 3rd dns were NOT!!!…Needs improvement…

Now it only the Preseason and I don’t expect this to be our personality out the gate in Denver but it’s really encouraging that we could and we did and without our primary weapons in this game…

PantyRaider...Can Already Notice Improvement But We're Not There Yet!!!/_

10:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider Nate 75...

Re: Pass "D" Sucks...

K. Kolb 4/7 for 68yds and NO points...

Play-by-Play for 1st possession:

1-10-ARI 20 (15:00) 26-C.Wells left guard to ARZ 20 for no gain (77-M.Shaughnessy).

2-10-ARI 20 (14:23) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short left to 11-L.Fitzgerald.

3-10-ARI 20 (14:18) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb scrambles left end pushed ob at ARZ 35 for 15 yards (33-T.Branch).

1-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb pass short left to 85-E.Doucet to ARZ 35 for no gain (24-M.Huff, 92-R.Seymour).

2-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete short left to 87-J.King.

3-10-ARI 35 (13:50) 4-K.Kolb scrambles left end to ARZ 39 for 4 yards (93-T.Kelly).

2nd Possession:

1-10-ARI 14 (10:23) 4-K.Kolb pass short left to 86-T.Heap to ARZ 22 for 8 yards (52-Q.Groves).

2-2-ARI 22 (9:40) (Shotgun) 4-K.Kolb pass deep left to 11-L.Fitzgerald to OAK 35 for 43 yards (31-H.Eugene).

1-10-OAK 35 (8:50) 4-K.Kolb pass incomplete deep left to 11-L.Fitzgerald.

2-10-OAK 35 (8:46) PENALTY on ARZ-85-E.Doucet, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 35 - No Play.

2-15-OAK 40 (8:46) 4-K.Kolb pass short right to 11-L.Fitzgerald to OAK 23 for 17 yards (22-W.McFadden).

1-10-OAK 23 (8:10) 26-C.Wells left end to OAK 8 for 15 yards (27-S.Brown, 52-Q.Groves).

1-8-OAK 8 (7:33) 26-C.Wells up the middle to OAK 3 for 5 yards (50-T.Goethel, 52-Q.Groves).

2-3-OAK 3 (6:56) 26-C.Wells up the middle to OAK 1 for 2 yards (79-J.Henderson).

3-1-OAK 1 (6:13) 26-C.Wells right guard to OAK 1 for no gain (90-D.Bryant, 78-T.Hill).

4-1-OAK 1 (5:30) (Shotgun) 26-C.Wells up the middle to OAK 1 for no gain (99-L.Houston, 31-H.Eugene)

Now if you look our "DB" starters were out of there at the end of that 1st possession and our back-ups gave up yardage to Fitz...Now Fitz will burn Namndi so this shows exactly what...

That are back-ups suck and need allot of development still...But our #1's stopped their #1's cold!!!..Not giving up a single yard to the pass!!!

So I think we need to give it a little more time before we start downgrading our Pass "D"...

PantyRaider...Always Searching For Reality!!!/_

10:49 AM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

I think the most disappoiting thing about the game was, the Raiders lost.

Now i know it's game # one of the pre season, but that's just an old Tom Cable excuse.

The Raiders need to establish an envionment of winning. A culture of success.

They cannot tell themselves that the "winning" will start in the regular season.

They do not have the luxury of acting like they can turn on a switch. Because this group does not have a proven track record.

Winning gets in the blood. It starts to snowball, and becomes contagious.

Before you know it, good habits are replacing bad ones. Each individual player takes on the responsibility of not wanting to be the one who "blows it". But instead rises to the challenge to perhaps be the "hero" of the game.

The excuses should end today, and the winning should start now.

2:25 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider00..

I get your point and agree although I'm not really concerned about this weeks score...We got 4 "FG"s which some of those should have been "TD"s instead...If accomplished we would have scored 23/30 pts last night which would have been pretty good....

But if you believe preseason scores than "DC" is going to be good while "Pits" in on the rocks....Well OK...And "KC" really sucks while "TB" is an animal!!! Ha!! Ha!!...Not to mention Seattle knocking off "SD" and Dallas holding off those "MuleHeads"...

So we're all even...0-n-1 to start the preseason...

"SF" looks great!!!...LoL!!

PantyRaider...The "V"s Will Come!!!/_

8:06 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Take a look at this before we belittle our rookie "CB"s too bad...It was difficult to see from the TV angle but really clear here...

"DVD" takes on "Fitz" on his very 1st play in the NFL and looses but notice the hand on "DVD"s arm and the one handed catch by "Fitz"...

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/8/12/2360238/this-a-an-amazing-screenshot-and-i-am-sorry-to-say-but-this-may-have#comments

PantyRaider...Just How Much Can Be Demanded From A Rookie!!!!/_

8:19 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

“Jackson mentions Satele, Heyer and Barksdale as standing out among #Raiders O-linemen”

""I’d be remiss to not mention (Veldheer)." – #Raiders Hue Jackson"

“Li’l Wiz” as "unbelievable""

“Jackson singled out 5 OL: (in order) Satele, Wiz (”unbelievable"), Heyer (at LG), Barksdale (“battling”) and Veldheer"

So if that develops into our starting "OL" than Heyer is a qualifying starter...But have no fear...Others are on the way!!!

PantyRaider...."OL" Played Better Than The Credit Being Given!!!/_

8:34 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

@PGutierrezCSN @VittorioTafur …Dont be surprised if we trade for mays to replace eugene

Taylor Mays
Height: 6-3 Weight: 230 Age: 23
College: USC
2nd rd pick: "SF"
Experience: 2nd season

8:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"KC" Scout Report: They SUCK!!!..Damn I Hope This Relates To Their 2011 Season!!!

Third Down Efficiency 1/10 – 10%
Total Net Yards 137
Average Gain per Offensive Play 3.0
Net Yards Rushing 24/86yds 3.6yd ave
Net Yards Passing 51
Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 6 – 17
Time of Possession 20:33

Of note: Their "OC" quit right before the "PO"s and "KC" tanked it in round one after being destroyed week 17 by our Raiders...I already posted that "KC" may be in trouble because Hailey's such an ass that players/coaches don't want to play for him...

Remember all that "Due Diligence" when "KC" hired Poile -n- Hailey...Funny if it all come unraveled now...Wonder how many of you who were scolding Mr Davis will reverse your takes now...NOT many I suspect!!!

PantyRaider...Death To The "Squaws"!!!/_

9:03 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Aug. 17 supplemental draft approaches but still no word if Terrelle Pryor will be allowed to enter it...

Hard to believe they will only allow DE/OLB Mike McAdoo and "RB" Caleb King who don't generate any noticeable interest to be the only qualifiers when a player like Pryor is sitting there...

This makes NO sense to me what so ever!!!!

PantyRaider...Just Let My Boy In!!!/_

9:54 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now this should clear up any or your stupidity regarding Al Davis coaching this football team during the games: Take Note!!!

Q: How did things go with you in terms of red flag, timing, talking to Al up in the box? (This was in reference to offensive coordinator Al Saunders. Jackson took it to mean managing general partner Al Davis.)

A: I didn’t talk to Al up in the box. Let’s make that clear right now. I don’t know where that one came from. I was very comfortable. As I told you I have very good coaches who give me information.

So now time to stop all that stupid "BS"...Your just showing yourselves to be complete idiots!!!


Hue's Take:

"starting with the positives, just the tempo of the defense, the six plays that they were able to play, it was outstanding. Obviously, SeaBass was incredible in the game. The offense kept the ball for 31-plus minutes, 20 first downs. We threw the ball with more confidence and more assurance. There was only one three-and-out the whole football game. So, those were positives."

Q: You like that DeMarcus Van Dyke went up against Larry Fitzgerald right away?

A: Absolutely. And what I’m going to tell the young man, I’ve seen that man catch that ball on a lot of great cornerbacks. But the thing that was most impressive was the next opportunity that he had to cover him they threw another deep ball and he was right with him stride for stride and there was an opportunity there to make a good play on the ball. So I was impressed with this guy. He’s not afraid.

Q: Jared Veldheer seemed to do a nice job on Joey Porter, so is he a guy you’re more comfortable with out there at left tackle?

A: There’s no question, and I feel remiss to not mention him. He did a great job, too, I mean, Stephon, Jared, Sammy, (Joseph) Barksdale, those guys all did a real good job, and obviously Heyer. I thought those guys battled last night and I think they’ll get better as we go.


Not everything was a positive in this game but there were certainly enough positive to be excited about next week's game with "SF"...There was NO let down with the loss of Zack as both Boss-n-Ausbury stepped up...There was NO let down with the loss of Namndi as the 1st team "DB" played very very well...And there was NO let down by this "OL" without Gallery as Stefon Heyer was right there to take his place...

PantyRaider...The Negs Will Get Fixed!!!/_

10:31 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Here is why the Raiders passed on the "OT":

Chiefs | Jared Gaither competing for starting job

Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said Friday, Aug. 12, that OT Jared Gaither needs to get into better football shape, but he has a chance at a starting job. "I've seen him play both spots; I think he's capable," Haley said. "We've got to get him in football shape and try to get him into a position where he can compete."

Now I hope they fail!!!

1:15 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Speculation Founded Upon Sound Reasoning On Hue's Past Life: "QB"s

We have already seen what appears to be a vast improvement in not only "JT" but also Kile Freakin Boller who I have NOT been impressed with in the least...Each threw incomplete passes but were 6/9 -n- 7/8 -w- 0 Int's...Not typical #'s for these last season...

Than there is Trent Edwards who as a new comer does not even know this "O" yet...But he was 10/19 140yd -n- "TD" -w- 0 Int's as well...Combined they only gave up 2 Sacks...Now for Raider "QB"s of late that's incredible...

Now it's well documented what Hue was able to do with a rookie "QB" in Baltimore...Joe Flaco...Who went from nobody to an instant success story in his 1st yr and it continued so NO Fluke!!...

So to what else could we contribute this remarkable improvement at "QB"...

Perhaps Al Saunders:

In the very shot time they have had to work with this "O" the improvements are quite noticeable..."QB"s are finding their "WR"s including "DHB"...Play calling is working...This very young "OL" is holding up...The tempo is high...The attitudes are exalted...And all this without several of our key personal even in the game....

"D-Mac"/Murphy/Ford -n- "TJ" were out while Chaz was out after only one play...But "Next Man Up" was working quite well...Surprisingly well...

It's hard to put allot into only one preseason game so more time is needed to evaluate anything here...But the "Ear Marks" of improvement are already seen and there's enough to build some pretty good excitement in anyone who wasn't a "Still Born Flat Liner" or "Bridge Walker"...But we have seen a few of them pretentious type hanging out around the Raider Nation!!!

PantyRaider...Just Hangin Out With The "Men-in-Black" Baby!!!/_

3:00 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

For anyone who loves the X'x -n- O's of FootBall or just needs to understand them for the 1st time this is a must read...It's also a very good accounting of our starting "D"s performance in this game which was pretty damn good...

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/8/12/2360645/some-teasers-from-the-oakland-raiders-personnel-packages-brhynnos

PantyRaider...Enjoy -or- Get Educated!!!/_

3:30 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

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3:32 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Don't forget this one either:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/08/12/defensive-line-techniques-the-prototypes/

Now there's no longer an excuse to suffer from "FootBall Illiteracy"

PantyRaider...School's In Session!!!/_

3:40 AM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

PR,

lets just say i'm hopeful about the Raiders, but also concerned.

and any sign i get that makes me more hopeful, will make me less concerned.

and a hopeful sign i am looking for is a very strong preseason.

the GB Packers can afford a lackluster preseason, not the Raiders.

the Raiders players have a lot to prove, to the fans, the new coaches, as well as themselves.

the sooner they start their winning ways, the better. so why wait for the opener, start winning NOW.

2 side notes. Shillins remains a soft as an ice cube in july.
and why is Kawhiff Barnes still on this team ??

11:25 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider00...

I bet we start our winning ways Sunday at "SF"...They looked sick as did "KC"...

I think Barns will only be back-up security...Heyer may start at "LG" -n- Barkdale at "RT"...I think...

Chaz ain't going to make it but now we have adequate depth on the roster to let him go...Moore is a pleasant surprise along with a few others...

"TE" looks real good now with Boss -n- Ausbury...

PantyRaider...Work Left But Roster Looks Good!!!/_

12:01 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

A public announcement:

Preface: For those not up to speed, Pantry Raider insistently bet me that the Raiders would make a “splash” in free agency. Terms of the bet are listed on a previous thread and have been re-posted by PR about six times (to rub it in my face), so I won’t torture this site with another re-post of same. I will remind those who are tracking the bet that the loser is to leave Raider Take for one year.

I think it’s safe to say the Raiders have NOT made any kind of “splash” in free agency. So let’s not drag this out any more than necessary. It’s time to call this thing what it is.

Sure, the Raiders might sign a couple injury replacements and perhaps make a last minute roster move, but their intention in free agency is as clear as day; i.e., they will essentially keep the roster from last year in hopes that their 8-8 team can prove they were really an 11-5 team.

FYI, Kirk Morrison is the ONLY player left on the Top 80 Free Agent List compiled by PFT. Ouch!

http://tinyurl.com/3fcgdjn

Update: Steve Smith signed with the Skins and Gaither went to KC.

Not only did the Raiders NOT make a “splash” in free agency; they clearly lost ground in free agency.

We replaced Nnamdi with Chris Johnson (huge drop); Miller with Boss (marginal loss); and Gallery with, well, nobody (big drop off).

What’s the opposite of a “splash”?

It’s time to man up!

Let ANYONE come forward and present PR’s case for a “splash” in free agency, now or in the making. Otherwise, let’s get this over with! Just say goodbye!

3:11 PM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Stop me if you've heard this before:
Chaz Schilens has injured his knee, and will be evaluated as "week-to-week" (according to PFT).
Week-to-week usually means 3/4 of the season, at least it has for the past 3 seasons. Time to get a new #1.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

The only "big name" free agent we signed was Kevin Boss who was a good replacement for the departed Zach Miller.

Splash? More like a single rain drop hitting the pavement.

PR,

I don't want to hear you talk yourself into circles either.

Don't make the mistake of saying "Well CJ, Heyer is going to be a starter, blah, blah, blah."

Don't get me wrong. I want Heyer to succeed because he will be critical to our success.

BUT make no mistake about it. Heyer is NOT a "big name" free agent. I had NEVER heard of Heyer before we signed him.

Kevin Boss - replacement for Miller

Stephon Heyer - possible OG

Justin Smiley - Retired

Trent Edwards, Chad Jackson, Derek Hagan - fighting to remain on the roster.

All the other free agent signings are not worth listing.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

We do have a new # 1, DHB.....Yup, it's time for the ole relic to move on...don't let the cat flap hit ya on the way out.....

JONES

4:23 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Heyer was a backup for the Skins last year (12 games with five starts). Apparently, he injured himself during the Arizona game and his status is now uncertain.

Boss is the closest the Raiders came to signing a top tier player, and even that's questionable considering what we lost to create that need. Boss for Miller is not an even swap and certainly no "splash."

It's time to call this thing for what it really is... an underwhelming NON-SPLASH!

4:49 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I fully expected the Raiders to bring back essentially the same team, and I'm okay with that. I believe they were better than their 8-8 record last year, which is why I thought Cable deserved another year.

I like Jackson, even if he does appear to be a bit of a "yes" man. He has a terrific energy and the players respond to him... so far.

FA Splash? Absolutely NOT!

At the end of the day, I can't believe that anyone who claims to know so much about the Raiders would even suggest a free agent splash for this season.

It was all Al Davis could do to keep the players he wanted from last year. Clearly, Miller was a surprise departure... enter Boss, whom the Raiders would not even have considered had Miller stayed.

It's time to man up and pay the bet!

5:09 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"It's time to call this thing for what it really is... an underwhelming NON-SPLASH!"

There wasn't even water in the pool...

Going by history, when the coaching staff is a crew of yesmen, it is very clear in the results. Hue may go along with it for a while, then he will rebel and try to phase out the ways of Alameda and then his days will be numbered. How many times do we have to watch this movie? And those still hold their breath hoping that "it will be different this time". So predictable, it's scary. Mr.Davis must think Raider fans will accept anything he doles out.

JONES

5:44 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

What a bunch of totally putrid pukes!!!...1st week of preseason and you want to call it already before the roster is set and players are released....

Fuck-Off it ain't happening...

And Tatupu is still in the works as is Hayden...

PantyRaider...It Will Be Called When I Call It!!!/_

Just see if you can "Nut-Up" when hat time comes!!!

8:58 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Somebody said they heard that Lito Shephard was coming to visit, any truth to that?

Your Pussies are twitching because now all it takes in ONE more!!!...

Will Pryor make it into the "Sup-Draft" and if he does will Al take that shot???

"OLB"/"OT"/"G"/"CB" are still legitimate targets yet unresolved and injuries will play into that equation as well....

And if Heyer starts out the gate than that's ONE so stop you stupid bitch routine and just deal with it...

PantyRaider...As They Squirm!!!/_

9:38 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Odd are these cards are stacked against you!!!

Never ever try to tie the hand of Al Davis saying he can't find the $$$$ or that he wont target quality players to help his team win....That was pure stupidity on your parts!!!

PantyRaider...Just Laughin At You CryBabies!!!/_

9:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders | Renaldo Hill, Darren Sharper to visit
Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:57:04 -0700

The Oakland Raiders are expected to work out free-agents SS Renaldo Hill (Broncos) and FS Darren Sharper (Saints) Monday, Aug. 15.

10:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

As "BR" has pointed out several times this is all it takes:

*Jackson said Sunday that he and managing general partner Al Davis are in constant contact about the state of the Raiders.

“Absolutely! This is his football team, and he lets me drive the engine,” Jackson said. “I talk to him all the time about what we’re doing, where we are, how I feel we are, where we’re getting to. This team has made a lot of strides. … I want them faster. We all do, but it’s been three weeks.

“But I give him my input and, trust me, he listens. And he gives me his input, and on we march. And that’s what this things all about. It’s about working together, and the best way to work together is to be able to communicate. And we do that, and we do that well.”

PantyRaider...Shame The Rest Of You Can't Understand This Instead Of Making Up LIES!!!/_

10:19 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

The "Cone-o-Silence" Is Lifting???

*Approximately 100 fans attended practice Sunday. This marks the second straight day that the Raiders welcomed a small contingent of fans, when normally their practices are closed to the public.

PantyRaider...Damn!!...Wish I Was There Because I'd Damn Sure Be At Camp!!!/_

10:26 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

The reason the Raiders haven't made any splash is because we were $15M+ over the cap just a few short days ago.

The Raiders plan was very simple and straightforward:

Do the best possible job retaining key players and add depth where needed.

The need for additional FAs this late into the preseason is a product of shoring up deficiencies, adding depth, creating competition, replacing departed FAs (Asomugha, Miller, Gallery), replacing retired FAs (hello Smiley), injured FAs (Eugene, Ford).

Clearly there was never any intention of making a splash in free agency which makes this bet a complete joke.

And let's not forget who wrote a check that there mouth couldn't cash ... this ridiculous bet was all on you PR for shoving it down our throat and being confrontational about it when there was no need to do it.

10:29 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Point of Order!!

It's about signing Top "FA" starters and we did sign Justin Smiley "G" who was a consistent starter whether he retired or not...But I'm just not a weak ass punk like your proving yourselves to be so I don't take those points unless he's the legitimate starter on my Raiders...But you would damn sure be crying for those points if they were yours!!!...

In 3 weeks we will know beyond any reasonable doubt who our starters are and this board will be cleaned up at that point...Just like I presented to "CJ" when we signed our 2nd high quality "FA" that if he wants to wait until we see that he's a starter than that's his privilege...Just like it's my privilege now to wait and see who else we bring in during this process and to return should my Raiders go out and sign a new "FA" starter prior to the end of the 2011 "FA" period while you take's a hike!!!...

PantyRaider...My Challenge -n- My Rules Which Will Be Fare Despite Your Disgusting "Moveable Rubber Wall" Strategies!!!/_

10:54 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

"this ridiculous bet was all on you PR for shoving it down our throat and being confrontational about it when there was no need to do it."


Your damn straight it was and you were damn dumb enough to want in the middle so now just deal with it CryBaby!!!

PantyRaider....It Stands As Posted -n- Accepted Period!!!/_

PS: There was never any clarification as to what the intent was and how the hell could you know that from where your sitting...It was about signing "FA"s PERIOD when you posted we could NOT/would NOT!!!

11:00 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Don't be eager to step in something you can't wash off!!!

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your happy endings are only stories that haven't finished yet while you know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

There are people who have an appetite for grief; pleasure is not strong enough and they crave pain. They have mithridatic stomachs which must be fed on poisoned bread, natures so doomed that no prosperity can sooth their ragged and dishevelled desolation.

This is why your made to suffer.

11:11 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Anno 11:11pm...

I don't get it...I'm the positive poster in this shit...I'm the happy one who looks for all the little things to be excited about regarding my Raiders...If anyone is a crying bitch it's them..

They just stepped in something that don't rub off and now their crying about it til the cows come home!!!

Or maybe this was directed at them..In which case I post!!!

"Right On"!!!

11:21 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"PantyRaider...It Will Be Called When I Call It!!!/_"

That was totally predictable. Why don't you just admit you were wrong? You claim to post 100 times a day on other sites. Why are you so obsessed with this one?

As demonstrated, ALL the top free agents are signed (some 80+/- players - GONE!). The only players left are second tier players that will get shuffled around as part of roster parings and injuries.

Clearly, there was NEVER any intention by Al Davis to be active in the free agent market. To deny this is to flat out lie... your favorite word!

You can't even show me one media article that suggests that Al Davis and the Raiders made even a dent in free agency.

Man up! It's your bet and you lost! Pay up!

5:08 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You freakin liar idiot!!!...

You try to twist everything out of the reality of the truth!!!...

I said that board gets over 100 posts per day NOT that I post that much so stop already with your damn ignorant LIES!!!...

Now attempt to disqualify the following which should keep your very weak mental capacities over reached:

Renaldo Hill, Darren Sharper, Lofa Tatupu, Kelvin Hayden, Chris Moris, Flozell Adams, Brandyn Dombrowski, Nick Kaczur, Bryant McKinnie, Tully Banta-Cain, Eric Barton, Keith Bulluck, Chad Greenway, Kawika Mitchell, Kirk Morrison, Julian Peterson, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Matt Wilhelm, Atari Bigby, Andre Dyson, Deon Grant, Lawyer Milloy n- others...

Everyone a productive starter at a position of need listed as unsigned...

Your NOT in a position to demand anything!!!...Nothing at all!!!

7:05 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"NYLiar" Said:

"If you want, complete your list of FAs. I will approve it as long as it's agreed that Davis must sign two (otherwise, there's no "splash") and the loser leaves this site for one year!"

those FA players must have been quality full-time starters on other teams last year, consistent with the quality of players in your list above. I will even include Pryor, even though he is not a FA.

Talented FAs will be going fast.

You started the FA list, and I even included Pryor.

By the way, there is a timetable for this contest (there has to be). It makes sense that this contest will end with the establishment of a 53-man roster and/or the start of the season.
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Now he tries to end things prematurely with this carp because he's too much of a weak ass coward to see it threw to the end:

It's time to call this thing for what it really is... an underwhelming NON-SPLASH!

It's time to man up and pay the bet!

Man up! It's your bet and you lost! Pay up!
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Just another prime example of his LIAR ways and inability to keep from moving his "Rubber Walls" to protect himself from exposure for those many many LIES!!!...








Second, the only reason you have not attacked my family or person (outside of your constant insults and profanity aimed directly at me) is because I don't make that information available to you.

And the only time I attacked you in this regard was when you wouldn't lay off the bizarre mystery quote I posted regarding Davis. You have now re-posted that entire exchange about four times since last year.

7:53 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

The last part of that post was his confession for attacking my family and military service and subsequent injuries and inherent learning disorders and anything else he thought could be used as a weapon completely removed from sports or relating to football...

Convicted by your own words!!!

7:56 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Sup-Draft:

NFL | Lots of interest in Caleb King
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:44:33 -0700

Former Georgia RB Caleb King reportedly has over 20 NFL teams at his Pro Day Monday, Aug. 15.

No signs yet of Pryor which is a total sham!!!

Raider "OL":

Wisniewski has been so impressive, Jackson said, that the Raiders have to find a starting spot for him on the line, even if it mean moving him to left guard.

Stefen Wisniewski got most of his work Sunday as the first team left guard, with Samson Satele at center.

Heyer was signed to compete for a starting spot on the line, and he has made the most of his opportunity so far. He is working at guard and tackle as a means of making himself more versatile.


See I told you so!!!

For the second straight day, fan groups were invited to mingle with players on the field after practice, a new policy this season. Booster clubs visited with players Sunday, a day after season ticket holders did the same.

PantyRaider...Only The Dedicated Need Apply!!!/_

8:22 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Another typical and expected rant. How pathetic.

You’re only lying to yourself. There's NO SPLASH!

Face it, your constant belligerence is unwanted here. Just take it like a man, admit you lost and say goodbye. I'm sure we will hear from you next year.

GO Raiders!

8:59 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Question is, when is Jethro going to start crying for his Mommy? The guy is obviously a child, he could never 'man up' because he isn't a man. A troll, from site to site, looking for attention that Mommy refused to give him. Just like the movie the 'Cable Guy', wanting friends and if you cross him, he will go CABLE GUY on ya. He probably has a lisssp too. He is the virus that has slimed the site....anyone got any bleach?

JONES

9:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"NYLiar"s LIES are very well documented but he hates for me to keep exposing it: But I do anyway...So check this out:
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nyraider said...

Interesting exchange from Cable's Q&A.

Q: Is Jacoby currently a starter?

Cable: Based on our health at that position, yes.

Q: So you expect him to be out there this week, or do you have to wait until the corpse wakes up and tells you what to do?

You think he/she means Al Davis?

5:28 PM

nyraider said...

PR - don't get your panties in a bunch over the Q&A I posted. I don't condone it. If that’s a jab at Al Davis it is disrespectful beyond belief. I’m surprised Herrera wasn't there to flex his paper muscles and escort that person out of the PC.

And how does the fact that any of us have or have not played competitive sports have any bearing on why the Raiders can't figure out how to be competitive?

Suddenly you're more qualified to judge WRs because you played pop warner football and have a booster club membership card? Don't you realize how ridiculous that is?

4:53 AM

nyraider said...

As for the Q&A, I was genuinely shocked by the statement. That's why (and the only reason) I posted it. In the few years I've been here at RT, I have never dissed the man in that way, and don’t expect others to, especially professional media. That’s totally uncalled for and, as I said, unprofessional. I remain a fan of Al Davis, despite that I disagree with the way he runs the team. Whether you chose to believe that or not really makes no difference to me. It’s a fact.

3:21 PM

nyraider said...

Ok, something very strange happened.

The Q&A I posted this morning was verbatim from J-Mac’s blog. I went back to it and found the content in question had been removed. I then searched the web for another transcript and found the same language as now posted on J-Mac’s site.

I assure you, this is not a hoax, at least not by me.

The perpetrator is either the author of the Q&A section I read this morning or it was removed (A) because it was distasteful and classless, or (B) to protect the media individual who made the comment.

I would like to email J-Mac and ask, but I am unable to find his email address (which is no surprise considering all the nuts he would hear from, today me being one).

I have no answer. If you want to believe I made it up, I have no proof that I didn’t. However, I assure you I did not. As I said, I posted it verbatim, in pure shock that it was said. I have stood behind every post I've ever made on this site. I have no problem accepting what is fact and acknowledging when I'm wrong.

However, this is pure mystery. Perhaps it will surface again in some fashion. Hard to believe that could get put out there then removed without a trace.

4:49 PM

11:38 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I see you plan on going out kicking and screaming like a baby.

Listen, there's no need for you to re-post stuff that nobody cares about, nor wants to read. That's old news.

Just leave now with what little dignity and respect you might have left, i.e., with the few folks here who you actually get along with.

Be a man! Man up to your own bet. FYI, if this thing was reversed (and Davis made a splash), you'd be all over my case and you know it. I don't need to rub this in your face. I just want you to hold up your end of the bet and leave!

1:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NOT Worthy Of Reply!!!..LIAR!!

7:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Saints | Jon Stinchcomb released
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:28:34 -0700

The New Orleans Saints released OT Jon Stinchcomb Monday, Aug. 15.



Raiders | Two safeties signed
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:35:05 -0700

The Oakland Raiders have signed free-agent SS Josh Bullocks (Bears) and FS Matt Giordano (Saints). Terms of the contracts were not disclosed.


Josh Bullocks
Oakland Raiders
Strong Safety
Ht: 6-0 | Wt: 207

6 seasons 272 tackles -w- 52 assists 1 Sack 6 Int's


Matt Giordano
Oakland Raiders
Free Safety
Ht: 6-1 | Wt: 200

7 seasons 56 Tackles -w- 10 Assists 3 Int


Josh Bullocks may be a starter which as with Stephon Heyer will be determined later when the opening day roster is established and posted right here...Til than "Hold Your Water" instead of having a public "Miscarriage" further exposing your inherit stupidity!!!

PantyRaider...Al's NOT Done Yet!!!/_

All it takes is 2 starters who are newly signed "FA"s or one such "FA" and one "Sup-Draft" pick as per the established and agreed upon "Rules of Engagement" as posted by YOU!!!

7:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL | Bryant McKinnie getting in shape
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:32:19 -0700

Drew Rosenhaus, agent for free-agent OT Bryant McKinnie (Vikings), said McKinnie has been working out and is down to 365 pounds. McKinnie usually plays at 355 pounds. Rosenhaus said McKinnie has received a few offers but has not accepted any of them.

Sup-Draft!!!

NFL | Keenan Mace has been contacted by all teams
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:04:48 -0700

Lindenwood DE Keenan Mace is eligible for the 2011 Supplemental Draft and has been contacted by all 32 teams. Mace signed with the Dallas Cowboys after the lockout but was forced to enter the supplemental draft because he still had eligibility left.

More prospects continue to line up...

PantyRaider...Now You Have To Worry If Al Pulls That Trigger!!!/_

7:56 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Open Competition is the name of the game!!!

– Safeties Matt Giordano and Josh Bullocks got work in the depleted Raiders secondary. A pair of former second-round draft picks in 2005, they’ll be given every chance to win a roster spot, according to Jackson.

Soon to have our key weapons back!!

– A helmetless Darren McFadden took a few handoffs in an early drill before taking the rest of the practice off. Jacoby Ford is no longer wearing a protective sleeve on his broken left hand, but the hand remains swollen and has a sizable surgical scar.

Our scouting dept is really very good....And "Some' continue to take swipes at our "Front Office"!!!...Just a Fool!!!

– Hard to imagine seventh-round pick David Ausberry not making the 53-man roster based on his play throughout camp. Ausberry would be a much bigger story of not for fifth-round pick Denarius Moore.

“He is a tremendous find for us. He’s doing some great things,” Jackson said. “He is a matchup nightmare for most people. He can catch, he can run, he learns well, so we’re excited that he’s a part of our organization.”

But do those "IAAF"ers ever give the man credit for the good job he has done like in finding Ford/Murphy/Bush/Houston/Veldheer/"DeathRo"/"McD"/"ShawNasty" in the draft who are all starters and bringing in "FA"s like Reece/Seymour/Whimbley not to mention several others....NO!!!...They just continued to promote their ridicules "Hate Trips" as usual!!!

Going to be really tough on them to "Nut Up" now if Cambell/Barksdale/Moore/"TJ"/Ausburry/Wiz II and others break out this season too....

You be being exposed for what you be...Faithless Derogatory Ignorant Disloyal "HateTripper"s!!!!

While I be Just Supporting Bitches!!!

PantyRaider...It All Comes Out In The Wash!!!/_

Than they continue with their LIES that Al wears all the hats!!!

– Fifteen practices in the book and still no Al Davis, the first time anyone can remember the Raiders being this deep into camp and not seeing the owner on the field.

8:56 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Hay "NYLiar"...

Maybe you should past this in your search window...It will give you an idea of how dedicated I am to exposing your LIES and how I will always continue to do so while I post this thread at several other boards around "CyberSpace" including "J-Mac"s Blog!!!

The Slandering of "JMac"s Blog

Already has several thousand hits sense the listed date!!!

There will be NO escape!!!

9:11 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Paul Gutierrez

says we might be looking at TJ Houshmandzadeh

9:32 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

PR,

If a journeyman free agent ends up starting it hardly qualifies as a "splash" or "big name" free agent signing.

The reason these journeymen free agents were signed (Stephon Heyer, Chad Jackson, Derek Hagan, Josh Bullocks Matt Giordano) was for camp competition and depth in case of injuries.

I figured you would try to twist the context of the original bet into a pretzel. Not necessary.

The bet was simple:

The Raiders need to make a splash in free agency by signing 2 big name free agents.

To date, the only big name free agent we've signed was Kevin Boss who was signed as a direct consequence of Miller departing.

10:27 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

The Challenge was as posted "One if not Two" and you criers upped that to 2 because you couldn't hang...Now the One is already there and I'm giving you the 2nd as a "Starter" just as you posted it should be so don't go picking and choosing any further...Or do I need to go back and repost all your takes too to refresh your memory!!!..I can do that very damn easily ya know!!..

Now on to the business at hand:

More "FA"s in the market place and both at a position of need...

Originally drafted as a Raider:

METAIRIE, La. -- Less than two years after Jon Stinchcomb helped the Saints win a Super Bowl and received a Pro Bowl bid, the five-year starter at right tackle is back on the NFL job market.

The Saints released Stinchcomb on Monday, one day after coach Sean Payton said versatile veteran Zach Strief and 2010 second-round draft choice Charles Brown would be competing for the starting job at right tackle.

Al loves 1st rd picks...

1st Rd Pick "09" "LB" Released...

PITTSFORD, N.Y. — The Buffalo Bills ran out of time and patience in waiting for linebacker Aaron Maybin to develop before being left with little choice but to waive the former first-round pick on Monday.

“He put so much into it, but there wasn’t any appreciable improvement,” coach Chan Gailey said following the team’s evening practice in suburban Rochester. “It was better to do it now than to do it later.”

Selected 11th overall in the 2009 draft out of Penn State, Maybin failed to register a sack or even break into the team’s starting lineup in 27 career games.

Maybin struggled keeping his weight up, which made it difficult for him to outmuscle opposing offensive linemen. He entered the NFL listed at 250 pounds, but had reported to camp last month listed at 228 pounds.

“That’s the reason we took a little longer. We needed him and we wanted him to come through,” Nix said. “He did everything he could do. He practiced hard. He hustled. He did everything you asked of him. It just didn’t work out.”


PantyRaider...Just A Little More To Worry About!!!/_

Can you dig it??...I can!!

11:36 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Look at it read it and finally get the sense of it for what is is NOT what your damn fantasies are!!!!..

As originally posted and reposted!!

Blogger PantyRaider said...

Doubt your man enough to "Put Up Or Shut Up" but I will wager that Mr Davis makes a splash in "FA" this season....

Clarification:

At least one big name player if not 2....

Projected Possibilities:

"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor
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Blogger Calico Jack said...

As I understand it from reading the original posts;

NYR would exit RT for a year if the Raiders signed more than 1 "big name, tier 1" external FA who are legit. starters.

If the Raiders sign 1 or 0 "big name" tier 1 external FAs starters, PR would walk.

Blogger Calico Jack said...

PR - I'm in. I will stop visiting this site for 1 complete year if the Raiders sign 2 big name free agents who are legit starters.

10:12

"CJ" Posted:

The way that I look at is simple. If the Raiders sign 2 big name, tier 1 free agents, I will gladly hold up my end of the bargain. Although I enjoy visiting RT, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to take a break from your gibberish.

If we sign 1 player who is a big upgrade over the existing starter or departed player, that would be what a BIG name, tier 1 FA is all about.

Anything less is just white noise.

"CJ" Posted:

his would be my projected off-season scoreboard:

Losing Ski and gaining Edwards: A wash

Losing Gallery and gaining Smiley: A wash

Losing Miller and gaining Boss: A slight downgrade but vital to get Boss in the fold.

Losing Asomugha and inserting Routt as #1 CB paired with #2 CB Johnson:
Significant downgrade but somewhat expected.

12:11 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Blogger Calico Jack said...

Boss was a good signing. By all accounts Boss is an upgrade over Miller in terms of run blocking and pass blocking. He also gets the nod in finding the end zone and being more physically imposing. Miller was more productive in total receptions, as go to receiver, converting 3rd downs, and total yards.

Blogger Calico Jack said...

Happy to see we signed Boss and Smiley.

Time to move on and put together the best possible 53 man roster.

Blogger Calico Jack said...

The only "big name" free agent we signed was Kevin Boss who was a good replacement for the departed Zach Miller.

Splash? More like a single rain drop hitting the pavement.

Kevin Boss - replacement for Miller

Stephon Heyer - possible OG

Justin Smiley - Retired

Trent Edwards, Chad Jackson, Derek Hagan - fighting to remain on the roster.

All the other free agent signings are not worth listing.

4:20 PM

"CJ" Posted:

Clearly there was never any intention of making a splash in free agency which makes this bet a complete joke.

And let's not forget who wrote a check that there mouth couldn't cash ... this ridiculous bet was all on you PR for shoving it down our throat and being confrontational about it when there was no need to do it.

10:29 PM

Blogger Calico Jack said...

PR,

If a journeyman free agent ends up starting it hardly qualifies as a "splash" or "big name" free agent signing.

The reason these journeymen free agents were signed (Stephon Heyer, Chad Jackson, Derek Hagan, Josh Bullocks Matt Giordano) was for camp competition and depth in case of injuries.

I figured you would try to twist the context of the original bet into a pretzel. Not necessary.

The bet was simple:

The Raiders need to make a splash in free agency by signing 2 big name free agents.

To date, the only big name free agent we've signed was Kevin Boss who was signed as a direct consequence of Miller departing.

10:27 PM
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Now let's take a look at this and break iot down!!!!

PantyRaider...It Ain't Over CryBaby!!!/_

12:11 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now look at it very closely as I break it all down for you:

#1...As posted:

I will wager that Mr Davis makes a splash in "FA" this season....

This was in direct response to "CJ"/"NYLiar and others posting that Al Davis was so strapped for $$$ that he would NOT be signing ANY "FA"s....I posted NOT to try to tie his hands over $$$$ because he will do as he pleases to build his team....This had NOTHING to do with what players were let go or not signed nor did it have anything to do what where a player was drafted...Late round and "UDFA" can and have made names for themselves too...It's New "FA" Starters Only!!!

#2...Clarification:

At least one big name player if not 2....

It specifically noted "One" and than possibly "Two"...Than out of consideration for "NYLiar"s constant CRYING I allowed to to go to "Two"....That was a concession on my part and NOT as originally stated in this challenge....But don't you demand I make further concessions for your apparent weaknesses and lack of intestinal fortitude to stand as MEN and honor that which you have already signed off on!!!..I simply won't give you any more!!!

#3....Projected Possibilities:

"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor

These names were NOT written in stone...They were merely "Examples" of what was to be considered "Big Name Players"..."Projected Possibilities"...Now look at that list while I break it down for you:

Vince Young...1st rd pick who was considered by many a Bust...Put together one good season making the "PB" followed by a season of disgust and kicked off his team...Had few seasons where he started all yr...

Carson Palmer a regular starter who failed to post great #'s and was now a Crier demanding to be traded/released or retired...

Vincent Jackson former 2nd rd pick who posted good #'s but became a complete malcontent and was in the middle of holding out...Failed to play last season until late and failed to make any bid for returning to the "PB"...

Plaxico Burris was a former productive player who's off field problem landed him in jail and he has not posted a single stat in the past 2 seasons....

"OT"....________________________
"OLB"..._______________________

Un-named candidates who would become starters for the Raiders...This must first and foremost be available "FA"s and NOT players who's teams lock them up to keep them from moving on...This is NOT a list of the "Top Players At Their Positions"....It's legitimately available players who have been starters will be starters on my football team...

1:12 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor

This was specified and a name was posted as a possible player who would be available...NOT the only available player who may be taken here...

#4..."more than 1 "big name, tier 1" external FA who are legit. starters."

That was your posted definition as posted...The criteria is that they would have to be "Starters"...In the past and now....As was this:

"If the Raiders sign 1 or 0 "big name" tier 1 external FAs starters, PR would walk."

Again the posted criteria was "Starter"....

#5...Now notice how you try to move those "Rubber Walls" of yours and change the parameters of this challenge:

" If we sign 1 player who is a big upgrade over the existing starter or departed player, that would be what a BIG name, tier 1 FA is all about."

"Clearly there was never any intention of making a splash in free agency which makes this bet a complete joke."

"If a journeyman free agent ends up starting it hardly qualifies as a "splash" or "big name" free agent signing."

#6...It has been unanimously agreed that Keven Boss is one "Top Tier FA Starter" so now we need just one more or none to settle the issues....

#7...Other "FA"s have already been signed who have been legitimate starters at some point on their former teams so if they now become "Starters" on the Raider's 53 man roster they will count in this challenge just like the names I posted as examples would all have counted including the one who hasn't posted a stat in two freakin seasons!!!

#8...As I have warned..."Don't step is something that don't wash off"...

You don't get to scream and kick because YOU failed to read the fine print nor do you get to change the contract after signed sealed and delivered here at "RT"s place...It's now a mater of public record and I can assure you will be posted throughout "CtberSpace" if you fail to live up to what you have agreed to...Ya know once you drove the used car off my lot you owned it...NO Returns Accepted!!!

PantyRaider...Oh!!...This Is So Much Fun Watching The Weak SQUIRM!!!/_

1:12 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Correction of my own mistake...

Jon Stinchcomb NOT Matt Stinchcomb you fool!!!

His younger brother!!!

PantyRaider...Oh!! Well!!...Can't Keep Everything Straight At This Advanced Age!!!/_

Bet Al's still interested -n- "RT" is a definite need...

2:09 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Jon Stinchcomb

Pro Bowl selection (2009)
Super Bowl Champion (XLIV)
Madden Most Valuable Protectors Award (2010)

2:13 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PantryRaider said: “...how dedicated I am to exposing your LIES and how I will always continue to do so while I post this thread at several other boards around "CyberSpace"....”

That’s twisted and demented. And you wonder why some folks might be less than kind to you...?

The rules have not changed. The Raiders needed to sign 2 TOP TIER free agents. The game is OVER! There are NO top tier free agents left! They’re ALL GONE!

Top tier players in free agency lasted all of about 3 seconds. Your bet was ridiculous! Free agency didn’t start until training camps and the top players were immediately signed. Al Davis had no intention of signing top tier starters. The only reason he signed Boss was because Miller left. Now the team is set, aside from possible injury replacements. So that’s what you’re rooting for now, injuries?

Face it! YOU LOST!

Stop clinging!

Stop acting like a little child and MAN UP!

5:04 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Cry-Cry-Cry but it won't change a thing and nor will your perpetual LIES which I'm dedicated to exposing because I love TRUTH while your Beaudreau and YOU are totally without TRUTH or Honor!!!....

PERIOD!!!...

I knew you would try to find a way to weasel out and LIE just like I posted right at the beginning of this...There is NO reason to believe a thing you post while typing with both thumbs!!!

7:28 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

"Top Tier" are the top 2 or 3 free agents in their position. This year, here are the top tier free agents (in my opinion) that have been signed by position:
QB-Peyton Manning, Michael Vick
RB-Joseph Addai, Ahmad Bradshaw (really this position is arguable. You can include Ricky Williams in this, or BenJarvis Green-Ellis, or if you're Al Davis Justin Fargas)
WR-Randy Moss, TO, Santonio Holmes, Steve Smith, Plaxico Burress
TE-David Thomas, Zach Miller, Kevin Boss
OL-Tyson Clabo(RT), Jared Gaither (T), Marshal Yanda (RG), Davin Joseph (G), Deuce Lutui (G)
DL-Cullin Jenkins (DE), Justin Babin (DE), Pat Williams (DT), Shaun Cody (DT)
LB-Stephen Tulloch (MLB), James Anderson (SOLB), Rocky McIntosh (LB)
CB-Nnamdi, Antonio Cromartie, Ike Taylor
Safeties-Quintin Mikell, Atari Bigby, Bernard Pollard, Roman Harper

We signed Kevin Boss. The only Free Agent signing that made a splash. I think had we signed Nnamdi, Seymore, and Boss/Miller along with the likes of Gaither; we would have had a huge free agency signing. We lost Nnamdi, Zach, and Gaither. I don't think we made any significant head way in the free agency signings.

That is not to say that this period isn't over, especially with players being/or on the verge of being cut. Let's see how our roster lines up after everything is said and done. If we can pull in a top tier cut player, then I would be surprised. I think our focus needs to be O-Line, WR, and WOLB.

8:13 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PantryRaider -

Your posts here prove you are a little child mentally. I can only imagine all the other blog sites you have infected.

It is abundantly clear that the outcome of this bet will be unilaterally decided. You make the rules, period!

Instead of beating your chest and jumping up and down, perhaps you can explain how the Raiders have, or plan to make a "splash" in free agency.

Where’s the evidence?

8:58 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider Nate 75...

Most all the "OT"s and several "G"s just resigned with their own teams so very few were available unless someone wanted to break the bank for them...

"KC" signed Jared Gaither and than admitted he's not ready to compete yet because he's too lame...Which is no doubt the reason the Raiders passed on him....

But others are now available:

Jon Stinchcomb "RT" 5 yr starter/"PB"er from the Saints...

Bryant McKinnie "LT" Vikes...

"OLB" 1st rd pick: Aaron Maybin released from Buffalo...

Tatupu "LB" released by Seattle...

"S" Atari Bigby is yet unsigned and was an "UDFA" in "05" who made a name for himself and won a ring with "GB"...

So yes...Names remain on the board so it's far from over yet...

PantyRaider...It Will Play Itself Out By Week #1!!!!/_

11:09 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Updated cap space as of August 15

So here’s the updated cap space, as of Monday, August 15:

Chiefs: $33 million.

Buccaneers: $29 million.

Jaguars: $28.3 million.

Bengals: $25.9 million.

Bills: $24.6 million.

Browns: $24.5 million.

Broncos: $24.4 million.

Bears: $19.3 million.

49ers: $15.6 million.

Seahawks: $15.5 million

Cardinals: $14.6 million.

Packers: $13.1 million.

Redskins: $10.9 million.

Dolphins: $9.6 million.

Jets: $9.4 million.

Patriots: $9.2 million.

Colts: $7.1 million.

Titans: $6.9 million.

Cowboys: $6.6 million.

Giants: $5.5 million.

Raiders: $5.1 million.

Steelers: $4.4 million.

Ravens: $2.8 million.

Chargers: $2.7 million.

Saints: $2.6 million.

Texans: $2.2 million.

Eagles: $2 million

Panthers: $1.7 million.

Lions: $1.1 million.

Falcons: $1.1 million.

Vikings: $380,000.

Rams: $270,000.

1:57 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now another report:

http://blogs.nfl.com/?p=83848&preview=true

Team Adjusted cap Total salary Cap space
Kansas City Chiefs $126,431,250.00 $93,446,708.00 $32,984,542.00
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $122,944,334.00 $92,988,777.00 $29,955,557.00
Jacksonville Jaguars $120,881,600.00 $92,768,120.00 $28,113,480.00
Cincinnati Bengals $121,035,000.00 $93,268,320.00 $27,766,680.00
Buffalo Bills $122,375,000.00 $96,114,524.00 $26,260,476.00
Denver Broncos $126,930,000.00 $102,627,531.00 $24,302,469.00
Cleveland Browns $120,610,750.00 $96,659,589.00 $23,951,161.00
Chicago Bears $120,375,000.00 $101,032,032.00 $19,342,968.00
San Francisco 49ers $120,375,000.00 $104,604,488.00 $15,770,512.00
Seattle Seahawks $120,375,000.00 $104,887,632.00 $15,487,368.00
Arizona Cardinals $120,375,000.00 $105,870,949.00 $14,504,051.00
Green Bay Packers $121,935,000.00 $109,198,003.00 $12,736,997.00
Washington Redskins $120,375,000.00 $109,474,372.00 $10,900,628.00
New England Patriots $122,675,000.00 $113,156,066.00 $9,518,934.00
Tennessee Titans $123,780,000.00 $117,037,579.00 $6,742,421.00
New York Jets $120,375,000.00 $113,688,194.00 $6,686,806.00
Dallas Cowboys $123,375,000.00 $116,700,139.00 $6,674,861.00
Indianapolis Colts $120,825,000.00 $114,259,317.00 $6,565,683.00
Oakland Raiders $120,375,000.00 $115,063,751.00 $5,311,249.00
New York Giants $123,668,670.00 $118,357,838.00 $5,310,832.00
Miami Dolphins $123,375,000.00 $118,447,435.00 $4,927,565.00
Pittsburgh Steelers $123,375,000.00 $118,875,502.00 $4,499,498.00
San Diego Chargers $120,375,000.00 $117,510,200.00 $2,864,800.00
New Orleans Saints $123,731,471.00 $121,042,487.00 $2,688,984.00
Baltimore Ravens $123,719,000.00 $121,145,293.00 $2,573,707.00
Carolina Panthers $123,375,000.00 $120,884,226.00 $2,490,774.00
Philadelphia Eagles $125,570,335.00 $123,382,065.00 $2,188,270.00
Atlanta Falcons $123,375,000.00 $122,188,308.00 $1,186,692.00
Detroit Lions $120,375,000.00 $119,379,952.66 $995,047.34
Houston Texans $122,771,400.00 $121,904,836.00 $866,564.00
Minnesota Vikings $123,930,000.00 $123,553,646.00 $376,354.00
St. Louis Rams $121,013,750.00 $121,835,786.00 ($822,036.00)
Average $122,346,173.75 $111,292,302.05 $11,053,871.70

With three weeks until the 2011 season officially kicks off, there are still plenty of personnel moves to be made. According to league sources, most teams still have plenty of money to spend before reaching their salary cap limitations. In fact, only the St. Lous Rams are currently over the cap total.

As of this morning, here is the breakdown of each team’s current total salary number, along with their available cap space. The 2011 salary cap is $120.375 — but each team has a slightly different number due to adjustments based on cap rules pertaining to the $3 million veteran cap exemptions or a re-allocation of money into 2009 from 2011.

Now add to that $5.1 Mil the $3.5 Mil that can be borrowed against future years and the Raiders have $8.6 Mil in their pockets...

PantyRaider...Now What Do You Expect Al To Do With This "Pot-0-Gold"!!!!/_

That's right..Kick some Criers in the teeth!!!

1:57 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Seahawks | Atari Bigby signs
Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:38:49 -0700

The Seattle Seahawks signed free-agent SS Atari Bigby (Packers) to an undisclosed deal Tuesday, Aug. 16.

1:58 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

See!!!...I Told You So!!!...

Remember when I posted this:
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This Dose Not Take Effect Until The "CBA" Takes Effec..."Dead $$$$ Relief"

Article 11 of the new CBA contains the rules that will allow the league to transition into the new league year, and buried among the many items within it is the following subsection:

Section 5. Salaries and Salary Cap Accounting:

….(b) Proration From Preexisting Contracts. ….(i) No signing bonus proration to the League Years of this Agreement shall apply for any Preexisting Contract that was terminated, traded or assigned via waivers prior to March 11, 2011….

Nmamdi was freed as of 3/4 so this will apply to all his dead money and to any other dead money outstanding from any other player who is no longer with the team…It was speculated that this would account for some $17 Mil of the Cap…If so we will be some $5 Mil to the good…

Also this does not include the $3.5 Mil allowance and the $3 Mil that can be borrowed against future years...
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Now if only you had listened you wouldn't be in such a predicament with Me -n- "MrD" holding "Trump" $$$$ over your silly heads!!!....

PantyRaider....So Much Fun!!!/_

2:28 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You will lose...By By Baby By By!!!

2:30 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You will lose...By By Baby By By!!!

2:30 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You will lose...

By By Baby By By!!!

2:30 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Ha! Ha! Ha!...Haa! Haaaa!...LoL!!!

2:31 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

You're an embarrassment to this site. Any chance the good folks here have at intelligent football discussion this year rests on me winning this bet.

Either way, I will be without your childish stupidity for a full year, and probably much longer.

Cheers!

3:18 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders have reason to think playoffs with Jackson at the helm...Nice!!

I’m not sold on the San Diego Chargers bouncing back this season and the Kansas City Chiefs could take a step back after winning the AFC West last season.

http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8217c1d5/article/raiders-have-reason-to-think-playoffs-with-jackson-at-the-helm?module=HP11_content_stream

PantyRaider...Not Sure How To Handle Positive Posts After Being The Worst In The History Of The NFL!!!/_

3:33 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Dump your boots!!!...Their so full of TEARS they slosh while your walking out the door!!!...

LOL!!!!

3:35 PM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Even though free agency isn't over by any means, as far as the Raiders making a splash in it, just hasn't happened.
I'm not saying you lost Panty, because the market is still open, but you better have your bags packed because if it ends today the way it is; the Raiders have not made a splash in free agency.

4:56 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

This article pretty much tells the roster story, with most of the Raiders team remaining the same as last year.

http://tinyurl.com/3co9xlo

45 players are labeled locks by Steve Corkran, leaving only 8 roster spots for approximately 35-37 players to fight for... with at least one or two headed for IR.

Davis hasn't pursued top tier free agents this year, and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon.

2011 Raiders = 2010 Raiders...

...just like 999,999 out of 1 million people thought it would.

5:59 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders sign 1 or 2 more players.

However, any add-ons will be journeymen cut from their squad who would be signed to add depth to our roster.

All the true "Top Tier" free agents are signed already. Sure there are a few "big name" FAs out there but there is a reason that these players are in the market ... injury concerns, past their shelf life quality, or marginal players at best.

The lack of a "splash" in free agency means the Raiders will need impact seasons from a few rookies and rely on improved performances from key 2-4 year players.

6:32 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider Nate 75....

True as you post but that's the fun in this...Now the "Sup-Draft has been postponed because it's not able to give Pryor his chance yet and that's also a part of this process...So the game goes on until the 1st regular season game and a view of that final starting roster at which time there should be NO disputes....

"Should" is presenting with doubt because of all this ridicules crying -n- lying which I find completely unnecessary...

NFL | Supplemental draft delayed
Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:09:27 -0700

The National Football League postponed the supplemental draft, which was scheduled to be held Wednesday, Aug. 17. Teams will be advised of the new date once it is determined. It is still unknown if former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor will be eligible.


"CJ"...

You are trying to tie Al's hands again which is a mistake...Now please!!!...How the hell are you going to disqualify a player like Tatupu if it happens as reported...Or Hayden who yet remains unsigned...Or "LB" "Capt Kirk" who could still fill a need...Or "OT"s like "RT" Jon Stinchcomb -or- "LT" Bryant McKinnie who both fill a need...Or a high 1st rd pick like "OLB" Aaron Maybin...

Go ahead and try posting your case now and you will see how foolish this all is...

PantyRaider...Al Has The $$$$ And He's Ready To Play His Game...."FA"!!!/_

10:18 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

This is what I project the Raiders will/could/should do with their new Cap $$$$'s....

#1...Address the "OL"

A...Cut Cooper at "LG" and add his $3.5 Mil to their "Pot-o-Gold"...Looks like "Wiz II" will nail down his "RG" position and we have a young backup in Campbell already on the roster...


B...Barksdale looks to be our future at "RT" but I don't feel easy about coming out the gate with two rookies on the right side so we need to sign a "RT"...Both of these players would be upgrades at that position:

"RT" Jon Stinchcomb
"LT" Bryant McKinnie

Barkdale as depth

C...Satele plays "C"
Stephon Heyer @ "LG" -w- Loper as depth
Veldheer @ "LT" -w- Heyer as Depth

#2....Address "LB":

Tatupu would be an upgrade here...

Also there has been some talk about moving "DeathRo" outside while Tatupu nails down "MLB"...I don't know what's best here until we see it in play...

"Capt Kirk" could also be a worthwhile addition if Tatupu is not signed...

Whimbley -n- "DeathRo" are written in stone...

There may be other moves on the table but this is my best expectations...Things I don't expect is:

"RB"
"WR"
"TE"
"DL"
"S"
"P/K"

So the only other area would be at "CB"...Hayden has been mentioned in reports...

I suspect the team is wanting to look at what they have prior to making a decision here...Slow yes but also very thoughtful while not letting themselves get hooked into a "Feeding Frenzy" like others have done...

Bresnahan prolley wants a better view of what he has and so does our new "OL" coach...

PantyRaider...Slow Progress That Lasts -n- Works...I Luv This!!!/_

2:26 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

PR, I wouldn't call drafting Pryor in the Supplemental as a successful free agent signing. He's unproven. Sure, he's top in the supplemental draft, but that is it.
If we brought in Jon Stinchcomb, that would be epic as it would fill an immediate need. The only other 2 players cut from the o-line with significant play is Bryant McKinnie (Vikings) and Billy Yates (Browns). Yes, I'd pursue Stinchcomb and cut Barnes. If we did that (and I doubt we will), then you may have an argument.

5:49 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider Nate 75...

Yes either would also be an upgrade over Barns...I was actually thinking of Langston Walker when I post it but Barns is definitely not the man to start the season with...I think I would feel more comfortable with a rookey Barksdale who at least won't false start so much...Maybe!!!...

We already brought in Stephon Heyer -n- Justin Smiley so that shows an intent to improve our "OL" with veteran "FA"s but Smiley was a sham and retired...So I fully expect we will go after another "OL" player and expect it to be for "RT"...With these guys still available I'm hoping we pull that trigger very soon...

Tatupu was already brought in and interviewed and was reportedly offered a deal to move to "OLB" but as reported he wants to start at "MLB"/"ILB"...Not sure if he has any other offers and the reports are that we continue to talk so that's premising...I think this shows an intent to improve threw "FA"s so I suspect the Raiders have others in mind also...Maybe even a trade if we have anything to deal...

As far as the "Sup-Draft" goes it was just part of the deal and specified as such at the time with Pryor's name the only one on record at that time...That has changed with the additions at "DL" -n- "RB"...But Pryor is definitely a big name when it comes to rookies...31-n-4 record 2 time MVP with size/speed/hands that translates as "Slash" in the NFL...

PantyRaider...When The Smoke Clears Visibility Will Be Clear!!!/_

7:51 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Eagles | Looking for two picks for Asante Samuel
Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:23:45 -0700
Nothing To Trade!!!

The Philadelphia Eagles have shopped CB Asante Samuel to other teams but are looking for two second-round draft choices in exchange. General manager Howie Roseman has said he is comfortable with having three high profile cornerbacks on the roster this season.


Jets | Expected to sign Aaron Maybin
Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:10:31 -0700

The New York Jets expected to sign free-agent LB Aaron Maybin (Bills) if he is able to pass a physical.

Still wheelin -n- deelin going on!!!

11:23 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Fair enough ... come Sept. 12th we will know if the Raiders made a splash in free agency.

Quite frankly, this is getting silly, embarrassing, boring, and stupid on a lot of levels.

If the signing of a replacement (Boss) and potentially a "possible" starter is enough to qualify as a 'splash', then forgive me for my ignorance but the word credibility has no meaning.

9:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

You knew the deal before you insisted on signing that contract...remember it wasn't me who drug you into this...You entered as a result of the tears of your friend whom you thought to support while he was crying for a 2nd to stand up in his behalf because he's too damn weak assed to fight his own battles alone...

Now I'm standing alone without a tear or fear while your crying FOUL!!!...

Give me a freakin break!!!

You put it out there...2 legitimate "Starters"...While at the moment we only have one sure starter signed it does appear that we will have at least 2 or 3 by that date so now your tweaking...But there's NO way out!!!

PantyRaider...The Way Is Shut...You Shall Not Pass!!!/_

9:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now Murphy is out for the Denver game and Cris Johnson is also out due to some type of medical procedure but it's unknown for how long...Chaz is out indefinitely which is typical for Chaz...Satele walked off the field and to the hospital for some sort of tests...We have most likely lost Eugene for he season but already signed 2 "FA" "S"s as replacements...Eugene was not a starter and his replacement may not be either...

But here's the deal...

Huff may make the transition to "CB" where he's needed and consequently one of those newly signed "FA" "S" gets the stating nod...

-OR-

The Raiders go out and sign another "FA" "CB"...

Murphy/Chaz are our starters but we have bodies already so prolley won't bring in any extra help from "FA"s...

Satele -n- Heyer are another story...Most likely we will sign additional veteran starting help on the "OL"...Our last attempt ended in retirement...

So that how it looks today and I fully expect our "MGP" to spend that $$$$ in his pocket...

PantyRaider...$8.5 Mil Constitutes One Huge Party!!!/_

10:01 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

So now we've downgraded Top Tier free agent to "starter"? So if Heyer can beat out Khalif Barnes or Daniel Loper to start somewhere on a grossly understaffed offensive line then he's a "TOP TIER" free agent? Wrong!

Or if our regular starters become injured and we need to find a last minute replacement, that's automatically "TOP TIER" free agent? Wrong again!

What a tool!

That's nothing more than a weasel trying to get out of a bet that his mouth made and his mental midget brain can't cash.

Where's the freakin' "splash" in free agency you were bragging and beating your chest about?

You were as WRONG as you could have possibly been and now there's nothing left for you to do but weasel and squirm your way out of this thing.

2 Top Tier Free Agents! That's pretty explicit. Boss is marginal, since we had to lose Miller to get him. Davis still needs to sign another TOP TIER free agent for you to remain here.

Good luck!

4:55 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Stop the constant tears and base you crying crap on something legitimately supported by concrete evidence...

Now go look up the stats of those I posted as a "Likeness" or "Example" to what was to be considered "Top Tier Fa"s"....

"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor

Go ahead..YOU signed off on this list saying it needs to be players like I listed...Now break it down CryBaby!!!...

Boss-"TE"...
Stephon Heyer-Practicing at "G"...

Compare them to any other player already on our roster...Go ahead...Embarrass yourself!!!

I'm so done with all your childish Tears Bitch!!!

6:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, PR, I didn't sign off on "2 legitimate Starters".

I signed off on the Raiders making a legitimate "splash" in free agency by signing 2 Top Tier free agents.

Just so we clear, it is a given that a top tier free agent is a starter because a top tier free agent is one of the better players at his position.

Conversely, a starter is not always considered a top tier free agent. There are countless players on all 32 teams who start but are not top tier free agents (if in the market). Middle tier? Yes. Top tier? No.

Anyone who thinks Stephon Heyer is a Top Tier free agent has no clue.
Signing Boss to replace Pro Bowl Miller is hardly a "splash" ... it was necessary, it was a good signing, it was reactive, but don't get things twisted.

The notion of starter = top tier free agent is seriously flawed. By your definition, if Heyer beats out Carlisle (or Carlisle is cut and Heyer starts) than Heyer should be classified as a top tier free agent. Wrong. Heyer is a journeyman OL who I had never heard of before we signed him.


CJ

7:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Top Tier Examples On My List:

"WR"s...

Plaxico Burress...Jail Bird!!!

2008 New York Giants 10 games 9 starts 35/454yds 4 "TD"s

2009............Zip!!!

2010............Zip!!!

Vincent Jackson...Malcontent Hold-Out

2010 5 Games 5 Starts 14/248yds "TD"

2009 15/15 68/1,167yds 9 "TD"s

2008 16/16 59/1,098yds 7 "TD"s

2007 16/16 41/623yds 3 "TD"s

2006 16/7 27/453 6 "TD"s

2005 8/0 3/59yds

"QB"s...

Vince Young...Kicked Off His Team!!!

2010 9/8 93/156 1,255yds 10 "TD"s 3 "INTs

2009 12/10 152/259 1,879yds 10 "TD"s 7 "INT"s

2008 3/1 22/36 219yds "TD" 2 "INT"s

2007 15/15 238/382 2,546yds 9 "TD"s 17 "INT"s

2006 15/13 184/357 2,199yds 12 "TD"s 13 "INT"s

Carson Palmer..Quitter...Retired???

2010 16/16 362/586 3,970yds 26 "TD"s 20 "INT"s

2009 16/16 282/466 3,094yds 21 "TD"s 13 "INT"s 26

2008 4/4 75/129 731yds 3 "TD"s 4 "INT"s

2007 16/16 373/575 4,131yds 26 "TD"s 20 "INT"s

2006 16/16 324/520 4,035yds 28 "TD"s 13 "INT"s

2005 16/16 345/509 3,836yds 32 "TD"s 12 "INT"s

2004 13/13 263/432 2,897yds 18 "TD"s 18 "INT"s

2003 0/0

"OT"s...NO Names!!

"OLB"...NO Names!!

Sup-Draft: Terrelle Pryor...Rookie kicked off his team!!!

Now you can use this to compare all likely candidates as "Top Tier" "FA"s...You agreed to this so will just have to die with it!!!

7:36 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Now your up against it...Post your stats or other facts to support your arguments...

Stephon Heyer: "OT"
Games/Starts
2010 12/5
2009 16/16
2008 9/7
2007 12/5
TOTAL 49/33 67.3%

PantyRaider...Did You Check That List Before You Signed!!!/_

7:44 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Read-n-Weep!!

"At least one big name player if not 2...."

Than I raised it to 2 under the heading of "Starters" just like you demanded...Otherwise it's already over sense we signed Boss...That was ONE!!!

Notice the wording: "If Not Two"!!!

But don't worry yourself to sleep...There will be more to follow and I expect to have 3 maybe 4 starters that are new "FA"s this season...

PantyRaider...As The Criers Squirm!!!/_

7:51 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You Words Are Written In Stone!!!

7:52 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL | Terrelle Pryor eligible for supplemental draft
Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:13:34 -0700

The National Football League has declared former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft. The draft will be held Monday, Aug. 22.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz1VOPMraK2

7:57 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"99"

8:13 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"100"..

8:13 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders | Michael Huff to play rover
Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:07:54 -0700

Oakland Raiders FS Michael Huff will start at free safety in the team's base defense but will move to cornerback in the nickel, lining up close to the line of scrimmage and covering slot receivers. "That's my (University of) Texas days, playing free, strong, nickel, play dime a little bit," Huff said. "That way I get to blitz more without the offense knowing."

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz1VOTljFGR

8:15 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Clearly, conditions of the bet have become a moving target. The bet no longer has anything to do with making a "splash" in free agency.

He is weaseling out of his own bet. That was totally predictable. He said top tier, but he really meant anyone signed to the roster who can either beat out an underperforming incumbent or is an injury replacement.

This clown knows so little about the Raiders he couldn't see that Davis wasn't hot in the market for free agents, and now he's desperately clinging to marginal acquisitions to win his bet.

Just be a man and leave. You lost!

8:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL | Terrelle Pryor to hold Pro Day

Former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor’s Pro Day will be held Saturday, Aug. 20, at a local high school in the Pittsburgh area, according to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.

Al will be represented there...I'm sure!!!

PantyRaider...I'm Such A Good Pimp!!!/_

8:29 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Post something legitimate to establish a fact instead of just more of the TEARS that got you in this mess!!!!....

Boss is ONE!!...Now do you dispute that too...

So who's next...Maybe my boy Pryor come Monday!!!

8:32 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

66% Chance Pryor's A Raider!!!

8:33 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Keep them damn Dawgs away from my boy!!!

Browns | To attend Terrelle Pryor workout
Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:36:15 -0700

The Cleveland Browns will reportedly attend former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor's Pro Day workout Saturday, Aug. 20, in the Pittsburgh area.

8:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stephon Heyer: "OT"
Games/Starts
2010 12/5
2009 16/16
2008 9/7
2007 12/5
TOTAL 49/33 67.3%

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Heyer has started a total of 33 games out of a possible 64 games played (16 games per season). Nice math Sherlock.

So Heyer has started 51% of the games the past 4 years ... So what? Are you ignorant enough to equate starting 33 games that past 4 years as meaning Heyer is a "top tier" free agent? Laughable.

Making a splash by signing Top Tier
free agents has morphed into any transaction where a player is added to the roster. Priceless.

CJ

8:39 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Yes "Priceless"...

67% of the games played were as a Starter...He was out for some games because of injury or because he had not yet developed...Now you want me to go post that same info on the other players because I most certainly can...Most never had 16 game seasons nor did Galery who failed at "OT" and someone you damn sure never considered a "Top Tier" player...Or do I now need to go back and post all your hate on the man calling him a "Bust"!!!...

Looks like Heyer is playing in Cooper's place who again you have bashed on this board...Now do you want to argue that if Heyer gain his starting position that he's not as good or as high of quality...

Go ahead and put that together...Let's all have a look at it as you quantitatively establish why Cooper should remain instead!!!...

PantyRaider...Now Your On!!!/_

9:04 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"..

Take a look!!!

Cooper Carlisle

11 NFL seasons...176 possible games..

Only started 101 Games...57.3%


Daniel Loper

6 NFL seasons...Possible 96 games..

Only started 9...9.4%


Robert Gallery "G" who Failed at "OT"

7 NFL seasons...112 possible games...

Only started 91...81%

Now who else do you want to look at your way...

PantyRaider...Talk About Slanting The Stats!!!/_

Now tell me again how this can't be an upgrade to what we currently have!!!

9:19 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

A younger "OT" who has played every bit as well as Cooper and much better than Loper but in your mentality is not worth mentioning...

A 4 yr vet as compared to an 11 yr vet prolley on his last leg but your all about pimping Cooper instead of Heyer!!!

And now Heyer who has played well enough to start at "OT" is practicing as a "G" but your all down on this guy!!!...Gallery failed miserably at "OT" but this guy played that position without failure and now will be a versatile "OL" "OT"/"G" and he's NOT worth the honorable mention!!!

Now what planet did you jump off of!!!

PantyRaider...Come On...I Waiting!!!/_

9:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Shit!!...It ain't no big deal to me...Hell I can load this thread up with reasons why I'm posting the guy's name if he makes it as a "Starter"!!!!

9:27 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Stephon Heyer

Height: 6-6 Weight: 330 Age: 27

Played with "JC" in "DC" so they know each other...

"UDFA" making a name for himself...

If He develops into a starter at "G"

9:40 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Boss is one (even though the Raiders gained nothing due to the loss of Miller).

I gave you Pryor as a possible in our bet but I would argue that any side bet you have with CJ does not include Pryor. That one is on me only.

No matter how you slice this thing, you were dead wrong about Davis making a splash in free agency. At the end of the day, you know far less than you think you do about Al Davis and the Raiders. Maybe you can stop kidding yourself and eat some humble pie for a change.

Whether I win or lose, there's no "splash". You were dead wrong! You were too busy pimpin' your dreams and pushing it in my face as the truth. Does that make you a liar?

9:50 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

FYI, Heyer is a tackle. Let's hope he has no problem starting at RT for the Raiders, but that doesn't make him a top tier free agent. In order to get that job, he will only have to outplay Khalif Barnes. Barksdale is a rookie and will probably get reps later in the season.

Early report is that Carlisle is on a mission. He has been strong at RG. If heathly, Satele is almost a lock at C. Wiz II is more versitale and will be asked to play LG, at least temporarily.

Veldheer is the prize of the line, and turns out to have been a tremendous find by the Raiders. Kudos to Al Davis.

Bruce Campbell is still a project. My guess is he may never break into starter. That doesn't make him a bad pick (in the 4th). It's still a good risk.

According to Steve Corkran, DHB is 5th WR on his personal depth chart. 5th WR in his 3rd year equals major bust! He has rookies and 2nd year players outperforming him on a regular basis.

10:02 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Go piss on yourself somewhere else!!!

10:10 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

WoW!!..Now this is really weird!!!

NFL | Terrelle Pryor will not play first five games
Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:11:53 -0700

Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season because he undermined the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Supplemental draft. Pryor will be able to take part in preseason games but will not be allowed to be around the team for the first five weeks.

How the hell does a rookie earn a 5 game suspension before he's even drafted???...NCAA Politics!!!...

PantyRaider...So His Draft Stock Just Took A Hit Scaring Off Most Teams....Al Will Now Reap Those Benefits!!!/_

10:30 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

I had to laugh when I read this quote from a Sporting News camp report on the Raiders: "Coach Hue Jackson said he is going to base starting jobs and playing time on how his players perform in practice and games."

What a novel concept. Sounds like DHB is finally going to have to earn his minutes.

11:05 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Sounds appropriate, assuming the decision is ALL Hue Jackon's to make. When it comes to personnel (draft or gameday), most of us know there is a higher voice on the Raiders. DHB is listed on the official website depth chart as #1. Let's see how far, if at all, he actually drops.

Of course, we can always use a good downfield blocker.

11:28 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PantryRaider said:

"Go piss on yourself somewhere else!!!"

Now isn't that the point of this bet?

Your days of peeing all over this site to mark your territory are near an end.

11:32 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

#1...I do believe the Raiders' coaches have their say in who plays and who starts...For prof of that look no further than last season and Al's distaste for the way Cable refused to play Campbell all season long and even had him inactive at the end...Than now when the kid finally get's a chance it's reported that he looks good at "G"...Than too Lance refused to play "JePurpleDrank"...Now how did he do that if he didn't have his say...Than he also cut a 3rd rd pick that he didn't like...Moss...Gruden didn't like Jeff George and it showed and he made it rough on him til things imploded...Al traded Randy Moss for a measly 4th rd pick because the "HC" refused to play him...The evidence goes on and on if your have the incite to view it...

#2...Many NFL Franchises have a preference regarding some of their players...If they signed a big name or drafted him high or made a trade than they expect him to play not sit on the bench...Coaches are generally expected to carry out those preferences and there has been reports of strife over this many many times in the NFL and virtually every other spot...Several "HC"s have complained because they don't have enough say regarding their rosters and who they put on the field...Just look at "SD" and the reasons why Shotty was run and Turner replaced him...Than the "Rat" who finally got it in his contract that he has that authority...Jeff Fisher didn't like "VY" and finally things blew up to the point of incorrigibility...That "HC"s job was also on the line and authority was stripped from him...Than he was fired after the team announced that "VY" would be let go...How many more examples do you need to see the truth here...

#3...From all reports "DHB" is looking good...So if he wins a starting role are you going to step up to the plate and give Mr Davis the credit he deserves for seeing the talent and sticking with it til developed...

And isn't that one of the digest gripes about our team in recent history...That they never develop the talent they have and it's developed after the players are allowed to leave...Like Charles Woodson -n- Phillip Buchanan who were both high 1st rd picks that "SOB" failed to utilize properly and now starters in winning programs elsewhere...

Now I know where this Crap was heading and what was intended by your post...But this personal agenda on this board is stupid and ridicules to say the least and blind to the reality of football -n- sports in general!!!

PantyRaider..."IAAF"er Attitudes Still Prevalent!!!/_

12:43 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Too funny....like I always said when trying to reason with the "crew". You can't reason with insane, the guy lives for the BS of arguing over nothing.

He cries that he is mentally challenged and physically damaged and has 'disorders'. He then cries if you mention it, when he clearly shows that his own self evaluation is true.

The guy is a GOOF, completely lost, his goal in life is trolling football sites trying to annoy people. The guy doesn't deserve any response, he doesn't deserve the time of day. He is a mentally retarded goof with no life = bad combo.

In his mind, he is a legend that can never be wrong. Those who are not retarded can clearly see he is a misfit, just like those misfit toys on that Xmas show. The more you feed his insanity, the worse it gets. For the betterment of Jethro's mental health...do not feed the troll.

JONES

12:55 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

..."For prof of that look no further than last season and Al's distaste for the way Cable refused to play Campbell all season long and even had him inactive at the end"...

Just an example....and guess why Cable was fired? Cause he didn't listen to Mr.Davis. So there you go, Jethro, you just solved your own case and you didn't even know it. I know, your head has severe damage, I forgive you.

JONES

12:57 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

...."Now I know where this Crap was heading and what was intended by your post...But this personal agenda on this board is stupid and ridicules to say the least and blind to the reality of football -n- sports in general!!!"...

Jethro, please stop PROJECTING. I do understand though, maybe one day, they can do a brain transplant, good luck.

JONES

1:00 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Well, I won't be impressed if DHB wins a starting role, but I will be impressed if he "earns" that role by demonstrating starter-level production over the course of a season. To date, he's really done nothing to win his starting role beyond his draft slot.

1:15 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"But this personal agenda on this board is stupid and ridicules to say the least and blind to the reality of football -n- sports in general!!!"

Wow! Are you freakin' kidding? You make it personal. Stop calling people out!

1:16 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

2 pee in a pod!!...

Dumb-n-Dumber!!...But now can't tell them apart..Which one is Dumber!!

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PR,

You get so lost with all your gibberish about % of starts, # of starts, wt., ht, and peripheral nonsense. Read this very slowly and see if you can follow along;

Don't make the mistake of equating the # of starts or if he starts to being a TOP TIER FREE AGENT.

Point Blank, no B.S.,

Is Stephon Heyer a top tier free agent?

Answer: No

Is Stehphon Heyer a possible starter and good signing?

Answer: Yes

CJ

2:22 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

To date his development has been slow...That's very apparent...Just like Namndi -n- Routt -n- Cris Johnson...Charles Woodson -n- Phillip Buchanan when they were here...And really a long list of others too...

But we have seen a few players develop very quickly of late...Jacoby Ford -n- now Moore...Perhaps Ausbury Too...

So I'm thinking this is the year for "DHB" under Sanders -n- Hue...And as you should recall I was calling for "SadDayLay"s head last season because we haven't had any worthwhile "WR" production sense Freddy B retired...Looks like that will now change...

PantyRaider...I Will Be Expecting To See Your Post Giving Al Davis His Due Credit Later In The Season!!!!/_

2:33 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Now go back and copy post where I said Heyer was a "Top Tier" Fa"...I didn't...I said he "MAY" qualify as a "STARTER" and that was the criteria that you pimped as being a "Top Tier" "Fa"...I than also posted his stats as reference that he has started at "OT" in the vast majority of games he has played...Therefore if he also becomes our starter at "G" than this qualifies as a new "FA" "Starter" now does it Not!!!...

IF he starts!!!

I posted that we now have one qualifying "Top Tier" Fa" and that's Boss...That should have been enough to settle this challenge but I conceded to allow it to go to "Two" "Starters" in line with what you -n- NYLiar posted in tears...

Starters from other teams who start for us in the same category as the players I listed in that challenge...

I than posted the starting stats for those players as a comparison to any and all potential "FA"s that we may yet sign...The simple fact is that Heyer measures up to those starting stats very well...Or are you going to dispute that as fact??...

I also posted NOT to lose sleep worrying because more would follow as "MrD" spends that $8.5 Mil that's now in his pocket and that the vision would be clear when the smoke gets out of your eyes...

Now that's where we sit...So get a grip and see how this thing plays out...Like on Monday when the results of the "Sup-Draft" are posted right here!!!...

Otherwise the end date has been agreed upon...The start date of the season and the final starting roster which will be posted right here!!!

PantyRaider...Damn!!!...How Much Squirming Are You Inclined To Do In This!!!/_

Never let an opponent know he's got you on the ropes!!!

2:52 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Shit!!..All it's been so far is a couple jabs with the left and one uppercut with the right and your already crying!!!

NoMoss!!...NoMoss!!!

2:54 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Is Stehphon Heyer a possible starter and good signing?"

All he has to do is beat out Khalif "Stay Puff" Barnes.

3:03 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"I posted that we now have one qualifying "Top Tier" Fa" and that's Boss...That should have been enough to settle this challenge but I conceded to allow it to go to "Two" "Starters"

ABSOLUTELY, FALSE!!!

You "allowed" it? Huh?

The bet has NEVER CHANGED! TWO TOP TIER FREE AGENTS! YOUR WORDS!!!

STOP CRYING AND TRYING TO WEASEL OUT OF THIS!

YOU'RE ALL IN! AND IT'S ALMOST OVER. STAY FOCUSED!

3:08 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Clarification:

At least one big name player if not 2....

LIAR!!!!

3:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NYLiar jabs air with a left and swings wild with a right throwing himself off balance and tangled in the ropes as I stand laughing with the crowd at his clumsy stupidity while he lays their crying...

NoMoss!!...NoMoss!!!

There would be more competition from a little girl and she wouldn't cry so much either!!!

3:31 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

RT, said,


"Sounds like DHB is finally going to have to earn his minutes"
**********************************


Not so fast RT.

Raider Wr's are dropping like flies.

Ford is hurt. Murphy out for opener. Shillins is always hurt.

DHB might be # 1 by default.

I just hope DHB doesn't catch a cold.

Oh wait, no worries. DHB can't catch anything.

3:33 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PantryRaider said:

"Clarification:

At least one big name player if not 2...."
_______

Thank you for the clarification.

The bet was clearly two "big name" players, because one does not a "splash" make.

Now go about you business.

3:40 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

From Corkran's Blog:

"As free safety Michael Huff said Wednesday, the Raiders need to realize that they aren’t going to find a player who can replace Asomugha by himself...."

I'm confused. Davis said he could possibly sign 2-3 players with Asomugha money (turns out it was one player plus some pocket change), but Huff is saying it will take more than one player to replace Asomugha.

If you do the math, only 11 players are allowed on the field.

3:45 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Just an explanation of what has happened here for any who may pass by...

I dug a deep -n- narrow pit and dumped into it the slime of slimes that don't wash off...Sticky like STP and just as slimy...But that pit had sharpened spikes at the bottom so as to induce a little pain!!!

So along comes my interned target...NYLiar who clumsy as he is steps right in their and proceeds to sink to his knee...1st spike went between his toes but he's still sinking downward and other spikes are now penetrating his Hush-Puppy slippers...

His cries echo thew the forest and along comes "CJ" who feels sorry for the idiot and attempts to pull him out...But the wasted effort just entraps him too as his foot slips on that goo and slides down into the depths of darkness...Now together their screams for salvation echo threw the forest...

Than they hear my loud laughter from somewhere above and twist to pier onward...I'm seen here perched on this huge bolder while looking down and they scream in anxiety at my presence realizing I did this to them with purpose -n- pleasure!!!...

Now it appears that NYLiar has his stash bag full of "Cats Eyes" and they desire to knock me off my perch by tossing those tiny spears my way...

OK!!...Now this sounds like fun...So now standing with outstretched arms I'm challenging them to take their best shot....

All the while a fat short-n-pudgy JUDAS runs around that slime pit exclaiming salvation they owe to his gods who speak TRUTH threw him like some Deity sanctioned in antiquity!!!

OOO!..Ouch!!...OOOO! Ouch!!...

That hurts my big toe as their glass marbles crack on the bolder beneath my feet...My laughter grows even louder as they twist and try to wind up for another assault!!!

So now here I stand while they wait out their fate...

Stay tuned for more exciting episodes of "The gods will save thee" -or- "Fate has raised it's ugly hand again"!!!....

To Be Continued!!!

"I Lost My Marbles" exclaims JUDAS!!!

4:14 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Put down that Crack Pipe and turn off the calculator...You have NO idea how to use it!!!

4:17 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Very colorful but stay focused. It's almost over!

Cheers!

4:37 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

I'm glad you see me as a spirtual person, Jethro, I always say, we are spiritual beings, not material beings.

You are right in a way, you can find truth in spirituality. I found, with my spirituality, the ability to identify deceivers and frauds....this is why we can never get along, Jethro, for your deceiving spirit is obvious.

By your actions, it is clear to see that you are a deceiver, a liar, full of sickness, I will pray for you, my mentally retarded, disordered and physically ruined friend. I forgive you.

JONES

4:44 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Good one, Raider 00.

I guess starting by default beats starting for no apparent reason, however.

6:16 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

- Scoreboard -

We've lost 3 high quality starting players to free agency:

Asomugha, Miller, and Gallery.

We've added Boss to replace Miller and Heyer to challenge Barnes or Carlisle for a starting position. All the other free agents to date are simply not worth mentioning.

Splash? By no stretch of the imagination.

Sprinkle? Nope

Single drop? Bingo

Charger Fan: "So did you guys sign any big time free agents this off-season?"

Raider Fan: "Well, we swapped Miller for Boss and signed Heyer."

Charger Fan: "Who?"

Raider Fan: "Stephon Heyer ... A journeyman OLineman from the Skins"

Charger Fan: Oh.

6:37 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Now please you can't be that dumfounded!!!

+1 -n- -1 every single time....Can't have it any other way!!!...

You simply can't sign a new player to the 53 man roster without losing a player on that roster 1st...

You can't activate a new player on to the game day roster without deactivating one 1st...

And you sure as hell can't add a starter without losing a starter now can you...

It's always additions -n- subtraction every single time on every single team which is exactly why this was never in regards to who we cut/trade/lose to make room for who we add threw "FA"s or "Sup-Draft"...

Simply NO way that has any Bering what so ever!!!!

PantyRaider...This Is Not Quantum Mechanics Here...It's Just Very Simple Roster Moves!!!!/_

7:14 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Don't include me in your god forsaken prayers!!!

I have NOTHING to do with false gods of Satanic LIES!!!

7:16 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

You actually thought I was going to pray for you? Your ego is way bigger than your brain...I do understand though, just try and cope as best you can.

May you be the best deceiver on the Internet and annoy many people, I'm sure God will be real proud of you for your 'greatness'.

JONES

7:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

1. Is linebacker Lofa Tatupu still an option for the Raiders?

A: He is an option. However, the fact the Raiders brought in Tatupu for a workout early in camp and didn’t offer him a contract portends Tatupu’s health being a concern, he was asking for too much money or he wasn’t willing to accept the role offered him at the time.

The other issue is, Tatupu is a middle linebacker. That position is locked down by second-year player Rolando McClain. So, Tatupu would be signed only as a backup and occasional situational player.

It’s conceivable that the Raiders are hoping that Tatupu won’t find another team willing to let him compete for a starting spot, which would drive down Tatupu’s asking price and make him more inclined to accept a backup role.

Same logic applies to former Raiders middle linebacker Kirk Morrison.


3. Are the Raiders going to select Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the Supplemental Draft on Monday?

A: There’s a distinct possibility. With that said, it likely wouldn’t be until the fifth round or later because the Raiders are without a second- and fourth-round pick in the 2012 NFL draft, and they would be hesitant to use a first- or third-rounder on a player who isn’t a sure thing at quarterback.

But a player with Pryor’s talent is worth a gamble, even if he winds up playing another position. If he can succeed at quarterback, great. If not, make him the next Ronald Curry.

PantyRaider...As I Said 2 On The Way!!!/_

7:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Jason La Canfora NFL Network

Smells like a fit for the Raiders
The Oakland Raiders have no commitment to Jason Campbell beyond this season and have hardly sent signals that he is definitely the guy there long-term. And we know how Al Davis can fall for athletes and there is enough talent to intrigue. Pryor is going to go late in the supplemental draft and will come cheap. The Raiders are in need of a developmental quarterback.

Our experts debate the NFL's hot-button topics:
» Do rule changes take excitement out of kickoffs?
» Should Pryor be eligible for supplemental draft?
» Did Patriots do right thing in sitting Brady?
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» Will a team take a chance on controversial T.O.?
I know Pryor wants to be a QB, but the Raiders also could use receivers and some scouts see a future for this kid more as someone catching passes rather than throwing them. He's already got a bit of a reputation and is leaving Columbus under a cloud -- the Raiders have been collecting guys like that for as long as we can remember.

After blowing it on a quarterback with the first overall pick, the Raiders might as well take a shot on one with a late-round supplemental pick.

Pat Kirwan NFL.com

Pryor's stock is on the rise
The team that puts in the highest bid in the supplemental draft for Pryor should be one with an older starting quarterback. Not necessarily an old QB, but a guy who might not be right for the job in two years. It would be best if Pryor goes to a team that doesn't need to put him on the field until at least 2012.

I have already had one general manager change his mind on Pryor. After suggesting a fourth- or fifth-round pick would land Pryor, the GM now feels a third- or fourth-rounder might be the target area. Three teams that should give legitimate thought to Pryor include the Raiders, Miami Dolphins and Washington Redskins.


PantyRaider...Sounds Good To Me!!!/_

8:41 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Was Ronald Curry a top teir player?

Bring out the Clowns.....

JONES

8:43 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

tier

JONES

8:46 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

The whole premise of making a free agent splash is to add top tier, elite talent to an existing foundation or base of talent.

Since when is this a splash;

Lose Miller, a pro bowl player, and add a player who was less productive in his 1st 4 years. Wash at best.

Lose Asomugha, a multiple pro bowl performer and shuffle the deck to Routt as #1 and CJ #2. Downgrade.

Lose Gallery at LG and go with a rookie or journeyman FA in Heyer or backup journeyman in Loper. Downgrade.

Simple question that boils this debate down to the bare essence:

In what position did we upgrade by adding an external free agent?

9:32 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"Shades of Gray" are merely the misunderstandings/misinterpretations of a clouded mind and "Half Truths" do not exist!!!

Outside of that are opinions which are little more than speculations and humor and stated as such...

Truth is distinctly contrasted to the lie and shares no common ground what so ever!!!...

Mistakes can be made as a result of a clouded mind but are readily corrected when factual evidence proves otherwise...Mistakes are no longer mistakes when clear factual evidence is abandoned in favor of one's own perceived agendas contrary to the factual evidence presented....

Thus when one propagates a mistake over and over in the face of substantiated factual evidence he makes himself to be a LIAR!!!...A matter of intent to deceive!!!

PantyRaider...Truth "101"!!!/_

9:47 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Who is taking Gallery's place and sense when have you viewed him as any more than a "Bust"!!!

We didn't just lose Gallery...We let him walk because he was NOT interested in playing any longer for the Raiders...So the one who is being replaced is the one who was left upon his departure...Loper...

Presently it appears "Wiz II" is taking that job at "LG"...I thought it might be on the right side where he played in college but not so in practice...So there's no wash there...It's an upgrade by the draft...

Stephon Heyer -n- Bruce Campbell are competing for the job held by Cooper...Either will be an upgrade at that position whether threw the draft or "FA"...

Barksdale is competing to take Barns' "RT" job which would easily be an upgrade threw the draft...

We only have one "FA" competing on the "OL" at this time which I fully expect will change...

Namndi...We did not just lose him...He failed to achieve the slightest stat that would have kept him on the roster...One Int!!!...That's on him and nobody else and may have been intentional...I did say may have been...So he was already gone and we couldn't franchise him or anything else...The only thing we could have done is pursue him as an URFA like any other team but he had his own will to go where he wanted so that's that...Move on...Next Man Up!!!...

Zack was left unsigned apparently for 2 reasons...

#1..Reportedly he turned down a substantial amount of $$$$ before the Lock-Out when we thought he was locked up as a RFA like Bush...

#2..The teams was unwilling to meet his demands and could go in a different direction which they did for a whole lot less $$$ and lost nothing substantial in the process...

So in evaluation your perceived loses are just the way that ball bounced and nothing more...

PantyRaider...Just Tears Shrouded In "White Noise"!!!/_

10:11 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"Judas" The LIAR!!!

it is clear to see that you are a deceiver, a liar, full of sickness, I will pray for you,

Anonymous JONES said...

You actually thought I was going to pray for you?
---------------------------------
Typical Schizophrenic Symptoms accompanied by projections of personal illnesses upon others centered in the hypocrisy of a false religious fervor believing they are embodied in truth...

The crazy never know their crazy and just think everyone else is as they hide from reality shrouded in denial!!!

2:50 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"You simply can't sign a new player to the 53 man roster without losing a player on that roster 1st..."
_________

The whole idea of making your team better is letting marginal players go and replacing them with better talent.

The Raiders have taken the opposite approach this off-season.

Coming off an 8-8 season in which the HC was fired, returning Raider free agents were given huge pay increases.

So the Raiders grossly overpaid to retain their marginal players and waived all interest in their most talented and/or consistent FA players.

It's been the anti-splash mother of all off-seasons.

Our primary hope rests on developing young players and a roll of the dice... once again.

3:46 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Example of perceived spirituality with delusional false religious hypocrisy at it's sharpest!!!
----------------------------------

Anonymous JONES said...

I'm glad you see me as a spirtual person, Jethro, I always say, we are spiritual beings, not material beings.

You are right in a way, you can find truth in spirituality. I found, with my spirituality, the ability to identify deceivers and frauds....this is why we can never get along, Jethro, for your deceiving spirit is obvious.

By your actions, it is clear to see that you are a deceiver, a liar, full of sickness, I will pray for you, my mentally retarded, disordered and physically ruined friend. I forgive you.

JONES



TRUTH -vs- "Mediot"...Gotta luv that!!!...

WASTE you don't know anything. Jmac is tired of biting the lip and let it out...Al Davis is the reason the Raiders don't win. His way or the highway is finished. Al's D is so obsolete it won't work in the NFL today...

Jmac got his ass reamed by the boss but don't count him OUT. He will slam Al down like the old CORPS he is...

JONES


In response to "NYLiar"s posting of this lie slandering "J-Mac"s Blog:

nyraider said...

Interesting exchange from Cable's Q&A.

Q: Is Jacoby currently a starter?

Cable: Based on our health at that position, yes.

Q: So you expect him to be out there this week, or do you have to wait until the corpse wakes up and tells you what to do?

You think he/she means Al Davis?

5:28 PM

Yup!!!...Quite sure his gods are very proud of their possessed servant!!!

4:04 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

LOL. I see you're getting a lot of mileage out of that one.

You really should stop obsessing so much. It's not healthy, spiritually or otherwise.

7:04 AM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Panty, I hate to say it, but the Raiders have not made a splash in Free Agency. The whole idea of the "splash" to me is if we lose good players, we replace them with equal or better players.
We've done that in one position (TE). We have not done that with the loss of Nnamdi; nor have we done that in the offensive line. We had a chance to let Barnes, Gallery, Carlisle, and Langston Walker go and grab Gaither, Stinchcomb, Harvey Dahl, Deuce Lutui, and/or Tyson Clabo. Did not happen. Instead, we've let Gallery and Mario Henderson go, and re-signed Barnes, Carlisle. In my humbled opinion (which is neither humble nor an opinion; but rather an arrogant fact); Gallery and Henderson are better than Barnes and Carlisle; but we kept the latter and surrounded these losers with a bunch of unproven rookies. NOT AN UPGRADE! POTENTIAL IS NOT AN UPGRADE, POTENTIAL IS UNPROVEN, AND VIEWED ON WHAT THEY COULD BECOME! THEY MAY NOT LIVE UP TO THEIR POTENTIAL (hence why we let Henderson go).

We signed Chris Johnson (injured) and Stanford Routt before we attempted to sign Nnamdi; basically telling Nnamdi we didn't want him and let him walk to Philly. Again, not an upgrade.

This offseason was by no means a success in the free agent market. Drafting potential players is not making a splash, it is gearing up for the future. The Raiders' present team is not going to build off of an 8-8 season. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

7:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will ask again, PR, the master of spewing in volume and saying absolutely nothing.

Simple question that boils this debate down to the bare essence:

In what position did we upgrade by adding an external free agent?

CJ

7:35 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders | Bruce Campbell could start
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:09:16 -0700

Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson said OG Bruce Campbell (knee) remains in the mix for a starting spot despite missing two weeks of practice with a knee injury. "No question. Oh, yeah, he is. Again, it's about performance. He's got to go out now and perform. Everybody's going to earn what they get here," Jackson said.

9:13 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

08/15/2011 Signed safeties Matt Giordano and Josh Bullocks
08/10/2011 Waived T Cody Habben, placed WR Derrick Jones on Injured Reserve
08/09/2011 G Justin Smiley Reserve/Retired
08/09/2011 WR Derrick Jones Waived/Injured
08/06/2011 Signed WR Derek Hagan
08/06/2011 Signed WRs Chad Jackson and Shawn Bayes, and FB Bryson Kelly
08/06/2011 Re-signed RB Michael Bush
08/05/2011 Signed TE Kevin Boss
08/03/2011 Signed LB Darryl Blackstock
08/02/2011 Re-Signed C Samson Satele
08/02/2011 Signed offensive linemen Seth Wand, Justin Smiley and Stephon Heyer.
08/01/2011 Re-signed LB Kamerion Wimbley
07/31/2011 Re-signed FS Michael Huff
07/30/2011 Signed free agent QB Trent Edwards
07/30/2011 Re-signed LB Sam Williams and OT Khalif Barnes
07/30/2011 Signed DT Derrick Hill
07/29/2011 Signed T Cody Habben
07/29/2011 Waived LB Quentin Scott
07/29/2011 Re-signed LS/LB Jon Condo and DE Jarvis Moss
07/28/2011 Signed T Joe Barksdale D3-11
07/28/2011 Signed WR Steve Goulet, WR Derrick Jones, WR Edward McGee, QB Jordan La Secla, DB Sterling Moore, FB James McCluskey, DB Zac Etheridge, LB Chris Francis, LB Bani Gbadyu, OL Lou Eliades, OL Ben Lamaak, OL Alan Pelc, DT Jamie Cumbie, DL Mason Brodine
07/28/2011 Signed C Stefen Wisniewski D2-11, DB DeMarcus Van Dyke D3-11, CB Chimdi Chekwa D4-11, WR Denarius Moore D5-11, TE Richard Gordon D6-11, WR David Ausberry D7-11
07/27/2011 Signed RB Taiwan Jones D4-11
04/29/2011 Raiders traded a 2011 7th round draft pick (#219 overall) and a 2nd round pick in 2012 to New England for a 2011 3rd round pick (#92 overall) and a 2011 4th round pick (#125 overall)
03/01/2011 Signed S Jerome Boyd
02/25/2011 Re-signed RB Rock Cartwright and CB Stanford Routt
02/24/2011 LB Kamerion Wimbley designated franchise player
02/17/2011 DT Richard Seymour re-signed
01/05/2011 Reserve/Future Signing: P Glenn Pakulak
01/04/2011 Reserve/Future Signing: WR Damola Adeniji, WR Shaun Bodiford, TE Kevin Brock, DE Tommie Hill, G Alex Parsons, DB Joe Porter, RB Louis Rankin, G Roy Schuening, LB Quentin Scott, FB Manase Tonga
30 Transactions

9:13 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raided Nate 75...

Please check that list to get the names straight as to who the Raiders have signed...I get real tired of making corrections but do it because it's important to keep things factual and honest...No need for confusion -n- falsehoods....

Satele was resigned at "C" and Barns at "RT" -n- Loper as "G"...

Now how does that reference to "Stupid Mario" at "LT" who already lost that job or Gallery at "LG" who was not coming back of his own will..Not even the same positions...

We also signed Stephon Heyer who was an "OT" but will now play "G"...

"RG" Cooper was already on the roster but may loose his starting job very soon and perhaps roster spot as well...

The "OL" is still in a state of flux...

Cris Johnson was already on the roster so no transaction there...Routt was resigned 02/25/2011 after it was known that we lost Namndi who walked away because that's what he wanted to do same a Gallery...

Now as far as the "Splash" goes that was defined as 1 or 2 "FA" starters from other teams who would be starters as well in Oakland....We now have one in Boss and who's next is still yet unknown...But rest assured that names will be there and when it is it will be posted right here will all the other transactions...

PantyRaider...The "Splash" Is Yet Incomplete So Chill!!!/_

9:34 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ" asked:

"In what position did we upgrade by adding an external free agent?"

Very simple answer: "TE"

Boss is equal talent at 1/4 the price which certainly constitutes an upgrade that allows us more Cap $$$ to bring in additional players...

Another area is at "S"

Matt Giordano and Josh Bullocks have been added as veteran depth where we had very little making it possible for Huff to transition to a "Romer" "S"/"CB" in our new Coverage Scheme...

WR Derek Hagan brings a set of veteran hands to our "O" that was lacking as a possession type receiver...

WR Chad Jackson also adds to the equation if he makes the team...

QB Trent Edwards is an upgrade as #3 "QB" over anyone else we had on the roster and may be our #2...

RB Louis Rankin was also added if he makes the roster...

There will be more so show some "Caholies" and chill!!!

PantyRaider...Time Keeps On Ticking Ticking Into The Future!!!/_

9:48 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"DB"s Signed:

"SS" Josh Bullocks 6 yr vet
272 Tkls 52 Assist 1 Sack 6 Ints

"FS" Matt Giordano 7 yr vet
56 Tkls 10 Assist 3 Ints

Resigned Huff -n- Routt

Signed "S" Jerome Boyd

"CB" Namndi Walked...

PantyRaider...The Real Story Re: "DB"s!!!/_

10:06 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Increasing DBs in numbers doesn't make them better.

Didn't you read Huff's quote? You can't replace Asomugha with one player.

Our secondary lost it's best player, and maybe the best player on defense.

Nnamdi's specialty is press coverage. Since that's what the Raiders do 90% of the time, his loss is tremendous.

If we played more zone, we could get by with numbers.

Davis has placed a premium on CBs for as long as I can remember. He finally has the best in the NFL - who comes without the baggage of past CBs - and he lets him walk.

It's all part of the anti-splash this offseason.

10:21 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"WASTE you don't know anything. Jmac is tired of biting the lip and let it out...Al Davis is the reason the Raiders don't win. His way or the highway is finished. Al's D is so obsolete it won't work in the NFL today...

Jmac got his ass reamed by the boss but don't count him OUT. He will slam Al down like the old CORPS he is...

JONES "


And there it is, Jethro showing his deception and lies. This post was written by an imposter (probably Jethro). I never wrote it. Once again, we see a poor human being, being a poor human being. Jethro, you are horrible, no matter how debilitated you are, your spirit is trashed. It's UGLY.

"The crazy never know their crazy and just think everyone else is as they hide from reality shrouded in denial!!!"..

You described yourself perfectly, Jethro, just hope they can give you that brain transplant before it is too late....what, it's too late, that's a shame.

JONES

10:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

You could never fill a jock and that shows every time you cry your ass off on this board!!!!

Huff was NOT advocating using 2-3 players in Namndi's vacated "CB" position...That was a reference to his perceived value and had nothing to do with how many bodies it will take to replace him...

Damn!!!...Your noodle just doesn't get it!!..

It's like saying one really great players is worth more than 10 "UDFA" rookies who can't play...Those 10 "UDFA" rookies will never take the field together...It's just a reference to perceived value and value only!!!!

Now go back and look at the transactions...Last I checked Namndi was a "CB" NOT a "S" fool!!!

10:31 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Ah!! Bull shit you lying ass bitch!!

It was copy posted right from the source here on this damn board!!!

You pimped that freaking ass shit and than hid when you found out that I was passing that info on to "J-Mac"s blog...

Just like everyone else did coming in and posting how much they like and respect the man after the fact but NEVER said a word when that lying ass crap was posted...

You damn LIAR!!!...

10:38 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Your the damn "imposter" posing as a Raider Fan when you most certainly are NOT...You bigoted ass racist BITCH!!!

10:41 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Hypocrites of Hypocrites!!!


"you can find truth in spirituality. I found, with my spirituality,"

Your a LIAR JUDAS...An absolute damned LIAR in whom TRUTH DOES NOT DWELL!!!

10:48 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

And you are the Imposter...

My friend from SoCal is the real "Jones" and has the sign in to prove it!!!

11:02 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

RT, your site is a joke, just to let you know. Your 'experiment' is a failure. It's an embarrassment to the Raider Nation.

JONES

11:11 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

New "FA" "WR"...

Hagan had another impressive day of practice Thursday, catching out routes, slants, whatever came his way. He is making it difficult for the Raiders to overlook.

Sure enough, Hagan said, without prompting, that his film study plays a vital part in his success.

“That’s just studying film and knowing how to run routes,” Hagan said. “I have known how to run routes since college. Most routes are a timing thing, and sometimes coach will let me know if I am too short or too deep. I just try and come back the next play and improve.”

Hagan said he is confident in his chances of making the opening-day roster.

“I feel great,” Hagan said. “I didn’t come in just to be here. I came here to help this team win, it doesn’t matter if I am starting or the third receiver or fourth receiver.”

Also At "S"...

*Veteran safety Matt Giordano gets credit for the play of the day for his interception of a Jason Campbell pass intended for tight end Kevin Boss.

Giordano read the play well, broke on the ball and jumped in front of Boss to take away the ball.

PantyRaider...Now Really!!...How Do You Not View This As An Upgrade!!!/_

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The question,

"In what position did we upgrade by adding an external free agent?"

(really the basis for a "splash")
-------------------------------
More volume and gibberish from PR.

Let's take these 1 by 1:

(PR)
"Boss is equal talent at 1/4 the price which certainly constitutes an upgrade that allows us more Cap $$$ to bring in additional players"

(CJ)
Miller went to the Pro Bowl last year. (Boss hasn't). Miller has out-produced and out-performed Boss every year in the league.

Boss is not an upgrade over Miller. Boss was a good signing. The question had nothing to do with cost. It had to do with upgrading of talent. PERIOD.

(PR)
Another area is at "S"
Matt Giordano and Josh Bullocks have been added as veteran depth where we had very little making it possible for Huff to transition to a "Romer" "S"/"CB" in our new Coverage Scheme...

(CJ)
First off, these guys might not make the final roster. Second off, who specifically are they an upgrade to? Are Giordano upgrades to Branch? Huff? Mitchell? No. They are depth, injury insurance, practice fodder.

(PR)
WR Derek Hagan brings a set of veteran hands to our "O" that was lacking as a possession type receiver...

WR Chad Jackson also adds to the equation if he makes the team...

(CJ)
Hagan and Jackson (once again) will be lucky to make the final 53 man roster. Our current depth chart are by most accounts in some order of Shillens, Ford, Moore, Murphy, DHB).

So PR, how is it an upgrade? The only way it could be perceived as an upgrade is if (1) Hagan or Jackson replace our WR depth chart (2) and make a contribution. VERY UNLIKELY.

If Hagan or Jackson make the roster at the expense of DHB, wake me up.

(PR)
QB Trent Edwards is an upgrade as #3 "QB" over anyone else we had on the roster and may be our #2...

(CB)
Is Edwards an upgrade of Ski? Debatable. The fact that we are talking about a #3 QB proves my point. It is irrelevant since the only way Edwards would see the field is if both Campbell AND Boller get hurt.

(PR)
RB Louis Rankin was also added if he makes the roster...

(CB)
Rankin is not an external free agent.

Next! Move on PR. You've got zero credibility.

CJ

11:27 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Well, thank you very much!

Everybody here is responsible for their own words and actions. I have asked repeatedly for a sharp reduction in the personal attacks and conversation dominating that is going on here. Who is respecting my wishes?

I have worked for 5+ years to create my own running diary of takes on the Oakland Raiders. What people do with it is ultimately out of my control.

If I presume to censor anyone due to a certain type of behavior, trust me, that will only exacerbate the behavior (regardless, I have no interest in doing censoring).

So what, exactly, do you want me to do?

And even then, why should I listen to anyone's wishes, when the favor is rarely returned?

11:31 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Yo!!..Can't believe that shit!!!

Now the one who came here punking everyone who doesn't agree with his lying childish racist ass is calling this board "an embarrassment to the Raider Nation."...

The one who punks Al Davis and everything "Silver-n-Black" is now the one crying FOUL!!!...

The one who posted that anything we post is fare game is now shamed to embarrassment!!!

Talk about the "Mental Midget" with a wide "Yellow Streak"!!!

Hypocrite doesn't even begin to describe JUDAS the LIAR!!!

11:33 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Hello? Anyone out there?

11:42 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Exactly, RT.

The last post above yours speaks for itself. Once we rid this site of its cancer, we can get back to intelligent football discussions.

Nuff said.

11:43 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Your analysis is all wet but can't hold water...But now I want to address another issue that much more important...

"RT"...

Your prolley correct and I do resemble that comment...But as you said why give any consideration when nothing is returned...

I tried the ignore it routine only to have my family attacked and every personal matter that some idiot thought he could twist into an adverse accusation thrown my way...I than posted that I'm no longer going to take that crap and I have NOT!!...Instead I'm throwing it back at the little Bitches that threw it at me...

Now you and I have also had our disagreement as have "CJ" and others regarding our Raiders...But that's different...That's football...It's in sport of things that relate to the Raiders NOT a man's military service or spouse or injuries....

Fortunately I have somewhere else to be and I'm enjoying that the way I once enjoyed being here...That element changed a long time ago...The enjoyment is severely diminished by the total Ass Holes that have become the Cancer here...

So sorry about that but I have never ever been the turn the cheek type....And the fact is none of those ass hole bastards would ever want to face me eye to eye because there won't be any talking involved!!!

So as you say do what you want to do...I have toned it down a little in regards to the vulgarity...I also found a way to cause a separation which is funny and fun for me while obviously painful for others but I don't care nor do they care about me...

PantyRaider...Just The Way It Is!!!/_

11:56 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Like I said, it's your neighborhood, if you want the 'moron' to keep ruling it with insanity and pure volume, that's your choice. All I can say, if it was my site, that wacko would be wacked. Any sign of him and his aliases would be whacked as well. But, go ahead and let the wacko run the asylum, it's your gig.

JONES

12:00 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NYLiar -n- Judas YOU are the ones who thew this crap and now it's all coming back at you so don't even try to pimp it as anything else but what it is....

YOU!!!

12:01 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"And the fact is none of those ass hole bastards would ever want to face me eye to eye because there won't be any talking involved!!!"

Who wants to beat up a physically debilitated, mentally handicapped? Sorry Jethro, that would be criminal.

JONES

12:04 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"NYLiar -n- Judas YOU are the ones who thew this crap and now it's all coming back at you so don't even try to pimp it as anything else but what it is...."

You attacked my person the first days I came to this site, because I would not suck Mr.Davis' nutsack, like you demand of all Raider fans. That is all on record, I say Boot the Wacko.

JONES...Boot the Wacko

12:07 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Where to begin!!!

Now don't shy away from the $$$ issues when that's what you pimp with every single "FA" transaction the Raiders make....

So Boss at a reduced rate is most definitely an upgrade over Zack -w- sever over the Cap issues...Period!!

Our "S"s have taken allot of abusive accusations regarding their play so adding 2 vets who may make this squad better is also an upgrade if they make the roster...

Same goes for our "WR" core whom you have bashed to no end because of lack of experience and hands...Hagan brings the hands and his experience to upgrade the depth on that unit and he's projected to make the final roster...Thus an upgrade!!!

Edwards is healthier and better than Frye or Ski and more productive than Boller in my opinion...But without a doubt he upgraded our #3 "QB" because until he was signed we didn't even have one!!!..Now how the hell do you argue with that!!

Louis Rankin was with Seattle last season so is a new "FA" signing and if he makes this team it's because he's better than Cartwright or Bennett!!!..Now that will also be an upgrade too...

PantyRaider...Don't Be Like A Brick!!!/_

12:18 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Anonymous JONES said...


because I would suck Mr.Davis' nutsack


Very Spiritual of you!!!

12:21 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders | Could show interest in two LBs
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:21:59 -0700

The Oakland Raiders could show interest in free-agent LBs Lofa Tatupu (Seahawks) and Kirk Morrison (Jaguars) at some point during the preseason.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1VVLgzQXX


NFL | Terrelle Pryor expected to appeal suspension
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:14:02 -0700

Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor's attorney, David Cornwell, said that Pryor is expected to appeal his five-game suspension once he signs his rookie contract.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1VVM9s8k6

12:29 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...Please note the posting time:

You Posted...11:31 AM

I posted.....11:33 AM

Obviously prior to reading your post...

You posted....11:42 AM

I posted......11:56 AM

Obviously prior to reading your 2nd post....

PantyRaider...Time Laps In "CyberSpace"!!!/_

12:36 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders | Could look at Terrelle Pryor in draft
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:26:35 -0700

The Oakland Raiders could consider taking Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor in the 2011 NFL Supplemental Draft but likely would wait until at least the fifth round to take him. Raiders | Denarius Moore could start
Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:34:50 -0700

Oakland Raiders WR Denarius Moore could start this season because he has been the best receiver during training camp and head coach Hue Jackson said he will determine the starters based on performance.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1VVPbiawQ

12:42 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Pryor = JaMarcus Russell, Part II

Davis will need a short memory to take Pryor with what will likely required a first round pick... because the Raiders don't have a second rd pick, nor do they have a 4th.

Davis will have to offer 1st, 3rd or 5th.

1:49 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

Yeah NYRaider, I agree with you.

Plus, for the most part, Ohio St players are bog flops in the NFL.

Pass on Pryor.

2:42 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

- NO on Pryor

- NO on "free agent splash"

- YES on intelligent football discussions

Have a good weekend all. CJ

4:37 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Our other new "FA" at "WR"...

*Veteran Chad Jackson had himself quite a day at practice after an inauspicious beginning. He caught several passes on a variety of routes, including one for a touchdown in front of safety Stevie Brown.

Jackson, fellow veteran Derek Hagan, and several other receivers who weren’t on the team last year are making a strong push for inclusion on the opening-day roster.

“Somebody’s going to jump out of that pack, there’s no question,” Jackson said. “I truly believe that. Somebody will jump out of the pack and have a bang-up season, and I suspect there’s going to be a couple players that will do that. Our offense is multi-faceted. We’re going to do everything we can to create opportunities for guys to make plays. (If a) guy shows me he can make plays, I am going to keep giving him opportunities to make plays. That’s what this is all about.”

But if you listen to "CJ" there's been NO upgrade of this unit!!!...

Than according to some our "DC" is just a yes man who will run the "Al Davis Defense"....Ya! Right!!..Than don't read what the players are pimping...

*Huff said he is looking forward to defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan’s scheme, where Huff will be used in a variety of roles.

At times, Huff will slide over to cornerback, play nickel back, play dime back and even blitz more than he has in the past.

“That’s my Texas days, playing free, strong, nickel, play the dime a little bit,” Huff said. “That way, I get to do it all. That way I get to blitz more without the offense knowing. Anytime in the post, they knew I was coming. So, this will help us disguise more.”

Yup!!...Nothing ever changes...It's always the same scheme!!!...How many times have those lies been posted on this board!!!...

But of all posters "CJ" should be pimping this because it's exactly what he wanted even though he didn't know how to express it...But than neither did I as questioned him how???

PantyRaider...Constant Anti-Raider Spin With Very Little Faith!!!/_

11:15 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

WR unit will upgrade by default. It has been hands down the worst unit in the NFL the last 2-3 years (i.e., since Al drafted DHB).

Now a rookie 4th rd pick is our best WR, and our young WRs will have another year under their belt.

Roster WRs likely will be:

D Moore
J Ford
C Schilens
L Murphy
DHB

If we keep six it will be the best of the rest, but Nick Miller has the inside track due to his return capabilities.

So how exactly did we upgrade this unit in free agency?

The smart thing to do would be to release DHB and just eat that pill along with the JaMarcus Russell pill.

5:59 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

It would prolley help if you at least looked at "DHB"s Cap hit before make yourself out to be such a fool or for that matter get out of the tub and see a game before you just accept that the man can't plat!!!!!!

7:57 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

My Boy Is Fast Aproaching The Raiders Now!!!...Don't Look I'm Pimping Ahgain!!!!/_

NFL | Terrelle Pryor puts up fast 40 time
Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:13:32 -0700

Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor ran the 40-yard dash in 4.38 seconds at his workout Saturday, Aug. 20. He ran a second 40-yard dash which was clocked in the 4.4 second range.

In a 6'6" 235# body with great running vision/hands/athletics and he throws that "Pig" too!!!

PantyRaider...Just A Pimp Selling My Bitch And A Damn Good One Too...

11:21 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders attend workout of QB Terrelle Pryor

By Steve Corkran
Saturday, August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am in Oakland Raiders.

A Raiders scout was at the workout of Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor on Saturday morning. Pryor is regarded as the most attractive player of the six entered in the supplemental draft.

Seeing the Raiders scout confirms the team’s interest. Coach Hue Jackson downplayed the Pryor angle when asked about him Thursday.

“I know he plays quarterback,” Jackson said. “I haven’t done much (research). I’m going to coach this team. I’m not worried about him. I have a quarterback. I have two very good backup quarterbacks. Who says he might be on our team? That’s what you said.”

When pressed on the issue, Jackson said:

“Ahhhh. Ahhhh, the supplemental draft is when, men? Monday,” Jackson said. “I can’t speak to that. I’m worried about the 49ers right now.”

Well, the Raiders scout’s presence speaks loud and clear. The fact Pryor posted 40-yard dash times of 4.38 seconds and 4.41 no doubt heightened that interest. It’s important to note that the Raiders keep their own times, so that figure could be even faster.

Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton went No. 1 in this year’s regular draft, and he ran a 4.59 at the NFL Scouting Combine. Pryor’s time is of even more import if a team such as the Raiders have designs on converting him to, say, wide receiver.

Any team that selects Pryor, or any other player in the supplemental draft, would have to forfeit a pick from the 2012 NFL draft in whatever round that player is taken in the supplemental draft.

The Raiders already are without second- and fourth-round picks in the 2012 NFL draft. However, it’s likely that they will gain at least one compensatory pick for a net loss of free agents in 2011.

12:15 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"...it’s likely that they will gain at least one compensatory pick for a net loss of free agents in 2011."

That states loud and clear that the Raiders lost more than they gained in free agency!

It's a non-splash!

12:32 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL | Terrelle Pryor says he will not appeal suspension
Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:24:20 -0700

Updating previous reports, Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor said at his workout that he will not appeal his five-game suspension and will sign with the team that drafts him.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz1VbG6hc7U


Fourteen teams present at Pryor workout

NFL Network’s Albert Breer reports the teams in attendance are the 49ers, Bills, Browns, Buccaneers, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Dolphins, Eagles, Lions, Raiders, Redskins, Saints and Steelers.

His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said Pryor will sign with whichever team selects him in the draft and will not appeal the five-game suspension imposed by the NFL, as Pryor’s attorney hinted at Friday. Rosenhaus also said Pryor will play any position asked.

12:42 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

How is it an "upgrade" at WR if you don't make the roster?

Exactly whose roster spot is Derek Hagan or Chad Jackson going to take?

The only chance either of these guys make the final roster is if one of our WRs goes on IR or PUP.

I would rate our WRs in this order (if healthy of course):

Chaz Shillens
Louis Murphy
Jacoby Ford
Denarius Moore
Nick Miller
DHB

Cheers, CJ

12:45 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

That's judged according to where in the draft a player was selected and the size of his contract $$$$...

So are you now posting that losing "JePurpleDrank" for "Ski" was a diminished roster?????

At least try to evaluate something before to stick your stanky foot in your mouth!!!..

Well I guess it is difficult to see clearly with your head stuck so far up your ass!!!

12:46 PM  

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