Sunday, April 27, 2008

Run DMC Has Haters on Their Heels

Good news, the media are already hating on our selection of McFadden, just as they were mocking us for considering McFadden prior to the draft.

You know you've done something right when the haters are nervous and chattering and making little sense, like saying the McFadden pick fits a typical Raiders pattern despite the fact that we haven't drafted a running back in the second round or higher for 13 years.

Witness this excerpt from the lead paragraph in the San Francisco Chronicle’s editorial—I mean, report—about the pick: "The Raiders, who start and end with Davis, decided outstanding talent trumped obvious need Saturday by drafting Arkansas running back Darren McFadden with the fourth overall pick of the NFL draft."

Ummm…We have an obvious need to score touchdowns, do we not? We're averaging 1.25 offensive touchdowns per game over the past two years, which is sub-pathetic. But that Al Davis, he’s just crazy for drafting a playmaker like Darren McFadden.

After all, in 14 games last year for the Vikings, rookie running back Adrian Peterson only scored as many touchdowns as our entire offense did in 2006.

I also love this argument about how we really shouldn’t have drafted an elite running back, and that we should have instead drafted a defensive lineman because…our top rivals have elite running backs.

In other words, remain scared instead of doing the scaring.

We’re stacked at running back? LaMont Jordan is essentially gone. That leaves us with Rhodes, who could barely crack our starting lineup last year; Bush, who is unproven at this point, and who couldn’t earn activation last year; and Fargas, who has scored six touchdowns for us in five seasons. Fargas has a history of getting injured, as does Bush. If you think any of our opponents was quivering at the thought of our running attack prior to drafting McFadden, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

So was re-signing Fargas a mistake? No. He'll still play. If you're looking for a money mistake at running back, look no further than last year, when we paid Jordan and Rhodes millions to not play.

The anti-McFadden crowd acts like we’ve done nothing to shore up our defense. How about Gibril Wilson for Stuart Schweigert? How about DeAngelo Hall for Fabian Washington? By putting more pressure on the pass, and by having a safety who can take care of business in the open field, we will, by default, make progress in stopping the run. Kelly, Warren, Burgess, Richardson and company aren’t chopped liver, either.

Another argument I’ve heard is that running backs don’t win championships. Yes, that’s a distinction reserved for defensive tackles, right? How about we stop this nonsense about championships, anyway? How about first do something we haven’t done in five years, which is win at least six games. Then we can talk about championships.

McFadden, Russell, Bush and Miller could help us build a young foundation and offensive identity that, as we continue to plug holes on both sides of the ball over the next few years, could eventually take us to the promised land. That’s how I see it, and I’m all for it.

McFadden will light a fire under this offense. Just watch.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take: I absolutely agree with you. We needed an idenity an we weren't going to get it with a defensive tackle.

For every stud halfback like McFadden, there 8 offensive tackles like Sam Adams, John Parrella or Ted Washington.

This guy will force the defenses to play us honest and worry about his ability to score from anywhere on the field. I know the zone blocking scheme seems to work with a variety of rb's - but McFadden's speed means one cut and he's downfield really fast. A whole new dimension that we did not have with Fargas etal last year.

I am so tired of watching LT toast our team every game, This kid, along with Zach Miller and Russell bring some real move the chains firepower to The Silver and Black. If our free agent wide-outs stay healthy and Russell finds his range this offense could be special.



10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice take -

I love how people bring up stats about top picked RBs and lack of superbowl wins by the teams who selected them as though it were a meaningful correlation in itself.


10:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call Me Assassin
Great pick!
AFC West opponents will be grasping for McFadden's vapors, trust what I say.
Remember how we've felt every time our Raiders line up against LT.... helpless because we already knew what was in store. This upcoming season we will be returning the favor.
Flash back, if you will, to Adrian Peterson's game against the Bolts last year, where he hung 296 on them. Now imagine how you'll feel when Run DMC breaks loose on those very same Bolts next season. Raider Nation will be beyond electric!
Beyond that the Raider organization is trying to remain composed about Mr. Michael Bush who will be making his own debut. I honestly believe this tandem, barring injury will be among the leagues best from the jump. Jones-Drew/Taylor, R.Bush/McAllister, and whoever else you'd like to include. I know they invested no small amount of cash in Huggy Bear Jr. but its not my cash and your's neither. I'm not expecting him to win the starting job at this point.
This pick has and will have opponents in fear of the Raiders, as they should be. From anywhere on the field indeed.
Dorsey is going to be good, maybe great, and we'll have to play against him twice a year but McFadden blistered Dorsey's LSU's #1 rated defense to the tune of 182 and 206 in consecutive years. Even with the addition of Dorsey don't look for the Chiefs to make very much noise this season
Are we a D-end away from being a solid if not dominating defense? If so ship a 2009 pick to the Fin's and line up Jason Taylor at end while he's still got gas in the tank.
It's been touched on here at RT before but let me go ahead and say I feel much more comfortable with our D if teams feel the pressure to score knowing we will be scoring. Furthermore, I like our chances a whole lot better if they have to work into the teeth of our defense, our defensive backfield and not just let the air out of the ball and attempt to grind it out on us.
Up until recently our future looked cloudy at best but It's a new day Raider Nation, the swagger has returned.

11:18 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

After what we went through last year it looks like Goodell is ready to do something about those crazy rookie salaries:;_ylt=AgDvmzj2TtrZw865YZJtd3XxxLsF?slug=dw-draftsalaries042408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

12:45 AM  
Blogger kigleigh said...

Nice piece RT as usual,Panty..You got your man.I think i heard you celebrating last night from all the way across the atlantic mate:>)
I DID want chris Long,and i am so glad we won't need to EVER see him in a Chefs uniform.that would have been SO,SO wrong! BUT....
I look forward with excitement to seeing DMC in action in the Silver & Black and if he does something even close to what Adrian Petersen did in minnesota last year i will be as delighted as the next man.(apart,obviously,from PantyRaider lol)
Here's to gashing the Chargers for 250 on the ground on September the 28th infront of a sold out Coliseum and teaching those powder blue ponces a lesson.
I can't wait nation,bring it on!!!!

2:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we now have many of the pieces to reclaim our crown of west division.
one aspect i see but haven't heard any mention of is that bush can pass the ball as well. please correct me if i'm wrong.
that being true we have three good arm's in the backfield everydown with a jruss,bush and mcfadden set.
the possibility to create with the skill set on the field is wide open, cheers

4:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This pick now gives the Raiders the 2 best offensive players in college football the last 2 years. With the receiver corps significantly upgraded and the o-libe continuing to improve under Cable-this offense could be a monster. I said you could bet the mortgage Al was taking McFadden if he was there and I beleive he made the right move. I beleive we have excellent personnel on the d-line(sorry Calico) and that coaching and schemes must improve for the D to be more productive. As far as being stacked at RB I think RT hit it right on the head. The big question for me is where is the leadership gonna come from on the O? We have no Gannon, Brown, Kennedy, etc... I'm afraid this may be more of a factor in our success than anyone is giving creedence to. I hope I'm wrong.


5:32 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

The first time Run DMc throws a halfback option pass for a TD against the Bolts, I’m quite sure I’ll throw a gasket. It’s tough (impossible) to argue picking McFadden.

Meanwhile, our problems on D have as much to do about coaching (scheme) as they do personnel. Ryan (Davis) has to realize that we don’t live in a perfect world (where a 4-man rush will always get the job done), and that blitzing is requisite. At least teach players to stay in their gaps, and maybe shed a blocker.

As for personnel, IMO we’ve upgraded much deeper than the couple acquisitions we’ve made implies.

Huff- upgrade at FS (his natural position)
Gibril - upgrade at SS
Aso/Hall - monster corners.
Routt/Washington (5/10) starters on many teams.
Kelly to replace re-“tired” Sapp.
Sands - capable NT, but needs to man-up.
Richardson - 2nd year will be better than 1st
Burgess - the consummate professional
Morrison/Howard - the law team
Thomas - capable, but will have to step up

The obvious upgrades are in the secondary, including much needed depth. It will be very interesting to see what direction the Raiders take today with their remaining picks. OL, WR and LB probably top the list.

6:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I have to applaud Al for this (Run DMC). Scoring more TD's will definitely make life easier for us. Run DMC will be a homerun threat in those cut back lanes. Teams like the Chargers better think twice about sending guys blindly at the QB off the edges now that McFadden might possibly be sprinting past them on their way in. Merriman has to play hesitant now. Just like we've had to do with LT in their backfield.
Now I would love to see us pick-up Takeo Spikes to help give our defense a nasty edge and round out what would be a really talented LB corp. We still need that drill seargent type/leader at LB to help our defense. We have the parts on D, but no clear leader (a meanie). Who's our mean personality? Who's our firey hothead?

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For every stud halfback like McFadden, there 8 offensive tackles like Sam Adams, John Parrella or Ted Washington.

Now this is a stretch.

Look... McF might turn out to be a special back and will win us some games, but we will still be looking for a tackle like Dorsey next year.

And maybe thats ok! Nobody really expects the playoffs this year. If McF is all everyone here is bragging about, maybe we can suffer through one more season of 2nd string RB's tearing it up on us... we will just have to outscore em for another year.

7:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love how people bring up stats about top picked RBs and lack of superbowl wins by the teams who selected them as though it were a meaningful correlation in itself.

It is.

To answer my own question prior to the draft, the last RB to carry a team to a ring was actually Terrel Davis, and he was doing it with the ZBS... so this may work.

The obvious difference was they also had Elway and the 5th and 11th ranked defense.

8:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are way off about DMAC. He will be another Lawrence Phillips, and we will endure a minimum of 11 losses in Kiff's final year. No defense in AFC West = no playoffs. Nice job Al.

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>> You are way off about DMAC. He will be another Lawrence Phillips, and we will endure a minimum of 11 losses in Kiff's final year. No defense in AFC West = no playoffs. Nice job Al.

Uhh, I met some people that went to school with Phillips, and they all said he was scary, violent, and messed up in the head. Apparently NOBODY sez this about McF.

I'm far from a supporter of this pick, but to make this comparison is just wrong.

8:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gary i expect playoffs this season!
this offense scores no lesss than 2 td's more per game. how would 14 point's per game work out last season?
point 2 do you think our d hasn't improved at all,will they hold opponent's to no more than last season?
point 3 our divisional opponent's didn't have their shit together last season,that remain's to be seen in '08

8:42 AM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

I have given up reading what the mainstream media thinks about the Raiders and our decisions. In their eyes "evil, ignorant" Al Davis can do no right.

I though we had a solid, if unimpressive running game, so I wanted to go DL: (SOH, Dorsey Ellis) because we are last at stopping the run and i'm not sold on Sands and Kelly forming a wall to stop the run. But if Sands indeed had trouble conditioning because he had family issues and Kelly is on the brink of greatness than i will be glad to be wrong. In fact i'll gladly give a beer to all the people here who proved me wrong.

WITH THAT SAID, McFadden is not a bad pick. He was a Heisman candidate. His style of play is similar to R. Bush and does anyone remember who Bush's offensive coordinator was at USC??? Bush was a defensive coordinators nightmare. He'd line up at RB, WR, and they would throw in two backs!!!

Kiffin might be feeling nostalgic about running an exciting and potent offense that can create mismatches and strike from anywhere on the field.

Anyways i choose to ignore the media on any post draft analysis or even worse grading, because until the rookies hit the field for a few years nobody knows, especially not some mediot...

8:47 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Strange enough, the Chiefs are being touted as having a solid draft thus far. In all, they have 13 picks. They have clearly defined a rebuilding mode and have attacked their needs.... errr, all but QB.

I believe we will soon see why drafting Russell #1 last year was huge (pun intended).

8:52 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Yes, me, Al and Kiffin are way off.

The need for a strong defense in the AFC West is, itself, a testament to the effectiveness of an electric offense.

In a bad season last year we still beat the Chiefs and Broncos. We easily could have beaten the Broncos twice if not for a botched field goal. We lost to the Chiefs by two points not because we held them to 12 points, but because we couldn't score more than 10.

Watch out for those big, bad 4-12 Chiefs with Brody Croyle and Larry Johnson! So scary! They put up a whopping 29 points on us last year.

Those 7-9 Broncos really ended the season on an up note with their fearsome rushing attack of...who, again?

I'm not living in the past. I'm heading into the future, right behind McFadden.

8:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF was that? As much as I try to defend these guys, and they move up to pick... A CB...?!?

8:54 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Raiders just drafted a CB with their second pick in the 2008 draft.


Apparently, we need another CB.

Are the Raiders really this draft-challenged?

What about John "David" Bowie?

8:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

could be Aso's last season...

8:57 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

WHAT!!! Holy cow. Another CB? It's become a certified illness. Call 911 and send some medics to Alameda. Cut the phone lines. Make it stop.

8:57 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Branch runs a 4.31 and returns kicks. That explains a lot.

This pick just reminds me too much of the 2007 draft.

8:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al got his CB!!!
5-11, 204 4.31 34"vert

Mayock just said:
"This guy could be the best gunner in the NFL right away"


"...could convert inside to FS, where the Raders need someone who can tackle in free space, where SS CAN'T".

I LOVE Coop at gunner, but he's one toke away from a long vacation.

Probably 20 posts since I started typing this :-)

NFL servers are hammered, I have no idea when our other picks are, or which one(s) we traded for 100.

Maybe Kiff was just checking out McFadden at AR and somone told al he was there checkingg on that job?

9:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea, we draft players, and people bitch and moan.

I realized going in that at #4 there would be a player that I would be happy drafting. Each having thier own pros and cons.
long(not fit for ZBS)
long (choaks on pressure of daddy's legacy)

So I wasn't worried about.

9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one more thing. Everyone always talks about people to help the QB. This pick helps our only probowl player.

9:13 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Okay, I feel a little better now. I just see CB and Raiders Draft and I break into hives, it's called acute Buchanon-itis.

9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

traded Fabe for another 4th rounder. I guess I feel better now, too.

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I kinda like this pick actually. If he knows he is coming in as a kick and punt returner, maybe he can just concentrate on it and become a Devin Hester.

This has been a neglected position for us for years... almost kind of an after-thought.

Interesting pick.

9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next pick must be O-line...

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.... or wide receiver.

Kiffin spoke about their O-Line draft board - said their top ranked O-linemen were further down typical draft boards... I hope he meant way down. We need some depth and competition on the O-line.

Stop the madness... protect Jamarcus!

10:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We drafted a spider.


Depth at WR was a need.

10:22 AM  
Blogger Old Skool Raider Fan said...


Suck it haters! The Raiders will wins AFC West, guarntee.

10:29 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Branch looks like a direct replacement for Chris Carr. I know there has been talk of DeAngelo Hall returning punts but he is far too valuable at CB to risk injury at PR.

Pop Quiz: Did any of our 1st 3 picks run slower than 4.4? I know Run DMc ran a 4.33 and I believe Branch ran a 4.31 ... what did the WR from Richmond run?

10:51 AM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

Here folks 10 Minutes of Run DMC and a whole lot of haters on his heels:

11:12 AM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

Here's some background on Trevor Scott:

Possible sleeper?

1:02 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said... originally listed him as a TE, but he's a DE.

1:16 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Checking in. Panty must still be sleeping it off. Congrats, Panty.

The more I think about the pick, the more I see why Al was on board with it. Madden once said that Davis looks, with the first round pick, for a player who can "change the game." McFadden is certainly that.

But obviously Kiffin had his influence, all the way through.

When Kiffin came in last year he said that he wasn't going to move players out until he saw what he had. Then he said after the team had a season long evaluation, changes would be made and the most important issues would be addressed. That seems to still be the game plan, and it appears to have progressed rather quickly.

McFadden helps the defense. He helps it by allowing the Raiders to continually threaten to score. Without the burden of worrying that the offense can't score, the defense will be able to play with more controlled agressiveness. With a QB who can throw the ball 70 yards through a basketball hoop and at least one runner who can scamper around the corner for 80 yard TDs, every mistake by the opposition might be points in our pocket.

I had thought this would be the one time that Davis went conservative. That would not fit in with the off season so far. Davis continues to stack the table with chips. Kudos to both Davis and Kiffin.

Too bad he's Donkey fan.

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, but if the Cowboys traded both their picks and a bunch of other crap to get McFadden it would be great move. Forget the fact that they already have a starting RB. We're obviously idiots.

We'll do our talking on the field.


1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we're getting knocked for taking someone with "outstanding talent".

wow, i'll take that every time.

i love the pick.

we just had to take a cb with our next pick though.
still, we have a gem in mcfadden.

3:12 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I'll have to spend a little more time absorbing our draft, however, my first impressive is that we didn't take any O-linemen.

Seems ironic on the heels of Kiffin suggesting we could find ZB gems with late picks. At this point it will have to be really late, i.e., undrafted free agents. Actually, it's smart to stock up on undrafted O-linemen. My guess is Kiffin and co are on the phone right now (I hope).

I think we all knew going in we had all our eggs in the #4 pick... and it was a big one.

Branch could be a good pick if he's our PR/KR. IMO, Higgins is not equipped to handle the job.

3:55 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well I'm back finally...Had to go to work today and sell crap from my storage so I could get rid of that payment....Returning to Thailand and Cambodia in just one week so have lots to do....

Was trying to listen to the draft on BSPN Radio....They totally "SUCK"....They kept covering what the Ravens did with a 4th rd pick to get Fabian but would not say what the Raiders did with the pick or any other picks....I had to wait until I got back on line to find out what has happened....They talk like Fabian was the steel of the freakin draft...Did they forget he lost his starting job to a second round pick....Totally "Suck-Ass" coverage...Did they realize the Raiders needed to cut some "Cap" $$$$'s...

So...It appears we replaced Carter as was reported...This "CB" was the fastest at the Combine of all the "DB"s in the draft....He was also a productive tackler....He had a few Int's but he had 10 passes knocked down so that's a big plus even if he didn't intercept the ball....

So...We got rid of the big contract of Fabian and now will have small money in our new KR/PR/CB who can play the Nickle-n-Dime Packages....That in itself is a needed move to cut the "Cap"...

2 "WR"s with good size and speed...So we now have some more depth and competition at that position for very little money....

"DE"....Looks like a replacement for Clemens....About the same size...Could also be used at "OLB" in the "Hy-Bred" 3-4....Speculation of-course....

As was stated...This was a "ONE" pick draft so that one pick had to be a great one....I think it was....Very Very Great from my view-point but y'all already knew that...

Thanks for all the "Congrats" about getting my "McFabulous"....Y'all know how much that pick was going to mean to me....Nice to see others now getting excited with the potential he brings to the "O"...and how that translates to the "D" with less pressure as they can now be turned loose more often...But as I stated yesterday I have to give a substantial amount of the credit to my USC Insider...He's been correct 2 Drafts in a row and also correct about the "Smoke-Screen" and the way Coach Kiffin was playing the "Mediot"s like "Puppet"s....He was talking with me yesterday about how Kiffin would utilize him in his "O" now that he has a "Reggy" like player....This is going to be very exciting indeed...Can't wait to watch...

I think the vast improvement in the "DB"s and the addition of weapons on the "O" is going to do a lot for our "D" in stopping the run and playing more consistent FootBall and I think we are going to see the "D" more motivated this year than last and the additions of talent on the "DL" will add up to a lot of improvement..."Speculation" Of-Course...

PantyRaider...Un-Drafted-FA-Wish-List....I have to look....

"08" Wish-List was fulfilled....Thanks "MrD"....Love ya Man....

7:10 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

On "McFab"s Blog there is a very nice "Vid" posted....Worth watchin...Shows how physical he is when he want to "Lay-da-Wood"..

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, so now we have more weapons on offense, an actual enforcer at safety, and two shut down corners... will SOB now open up the defense?

I don't think I can bear watching our mandatory three blitzes a game for another season.

Can I buy a blitz on third and long now SOB? How about a surprise blitz on first and ten???

One can dream I guess.

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We didn't wake Chris Long anyway.
We'are waiting on Howie, Jr (#3)

9:45 PM  
Blogger StickUm25 said...

One thing that should be put to rest is any lingering questions about Kiffin and how much input he has on the team. He has clearly stated that McFadden was targeted for some time, and how valuable an addition he thought the guy would be. Last year he also talked about too many guys on the roster who are one dimensional. The drafting of Branch was an example of a guy who gives Kiffin the flexibility he was talking about - a special teams demon who can play either safety or corner. There is no doubt that Al had a hand in the draft as well, but there is no reasonable way you can spin it that Kiffin was no factor.

Also, it was kind of hard to expect much in terms of depth, considering our other picks were few and late. However, the statements about Kelly being slotted for the 3-technique indicates there are no plans to change the base D. I'm afraid that those comments, in addition to adding Wilson and Hall (while no doubt a huge upgrade in talent) means that we're sticking with same tired scheme on defense next year - 4-3 with little to no blitzing. I hope I'm wrong on that score.

9:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya know, if you think about it... the non-blitzing for the most part worked when we were not giving up gobs of yardage to the run. Our problem was that when it got to third and long, we agonizingly couldn't stop anyone over and over an over and over. Much of that might go away with the new additions in the d-backfield... particularly FS.

Stuey seemed to have a nose for anything BUT the football.

Maybe there is a method to this madness??

10:06 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

After the smoke has cleared, it looks to me that the Raiders are putting a lot of stock in 4 key players making a big difference in our overall run D;

Kelly > a much better run defender than Sapp

Sands > playing NT, his performance in 2008 will be critical

Richardson > will obviously get more reps at DE than in 2007

Wilson > an upgrade over Huff in run support especially in the box

Is the current personnel enough to stop the bleeding on run D? Will SOB use the same base 4, limited blitz packages as usual? Will the Raiders offense ring up enough points often and early to force the opponent to pass into our strength (the secondary)?

10:12 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

All the speculation is GREAT...Mostly positive and realistic...What a difference a few weeks have made....

We NO-longer sweat over the possibility that we have a "Lame-Duck" of a "HC"....

We see his active input and see him and "MrD" working together for the common good of the team....

We see the "Mediot"s put in their rightful place..."Out-Side" wondering what happened and being played like "Puppet"s....

We have new pieces in place on the "D" and old pieces with a new commitment to a positive position on the "DL" and 2nd year players who are no-longer "Rookie"s and decent depth at the positions....

We have new weapons in the Passing-n-Running Games with good depth in the waiting....

We have a vastly improved "OL" with some "New-Blood" and some players who are no-longer "Rookie"s....

We have a "QB" now in his second year with a full camp ahead of him and lots of extra reps leading up to camp....Preparation-Preparation-Preparation....Confidence-Confidence-Confidence....

Our "D"-n-"O"-n-"ST"s have increased "Team-Speed" at several positions...."Extreme-Speed"....Athletic ability has risen....

Granted...We still have a ways to go and we need to see more aggressiveness from our "D" unit as a whole...."O" speculations are off the map...."Sky's the Limit" if there is one....Our schedule is favorable and the rest of the AFCW has declined or failed to improve....

What are we waiting for....Bring on MonDayNight....Let's go out and "Kick Some Donkey Asses"....Just before we "Rape" da "Squaw"s....


12:55 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well...I see my boy Jerome Felton went to the "PussyCats" in the 5th...He is projected to be another Jerome Bettis but with better feet...Maybe they will cut him at the end of camp and we can sign him to our "PS"....

"McFab" Quote...

"I got to see (Russell) a lot down at LSU," McFadden said. "Like I said, I'd much rather be with him because I remember when we played against him.

The defensive tackle had him hang on his jersey, and he just flung the ball 50 yards for a completion, so I feel like it's something that would be a great asset for the Raider nation, for me and him to be back there in the backfield."

The "SEC" connection is coming together...

1:26 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

McFadden demonstrated poise in numerous post-draft interviews. He remained humble and appeared ready to learn and play. Also, he seemed genuine about not letting contract negotiations stall his getting to camp.

Selecting Branch is no mystery (and follows an unmistakable Raiders draft tradition). He ran the fastest time of all CBs at the Combine (4.31). He’ll be invaluable if he can be our returner and play SP.

Trading Washington for the 26th pick in the 4th round is a real head scratcher. Perhaps Washington was out the door anyway, but he’s a potential starter on many teams, and worth a higher pick, particularly if traded for a pick next year. This trade reeks of desperation, ala Moss to NE.

Meanwhile, we get Arman Shields, who has, what, about a 10% chance of making the team. “In 2007, he caught 14 passes for 125 yards and averaged 8.9 yards per catch.” Doesn’t sound like a diamond in the rough to me, but what do I know.

At the end of the day, the 2008 draft is all about one player. If Branch sticks, I’d say we had a good draft. However, trading Fabian for a late 4th round pick negates that somewhat.

6:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't make out out like a bandit on every deal.

We all knew Washington was out, and Al's not as tight with the cash this year. They guys not even on the starting roster.

The point I would really like to make is, When will people realize that these CB's are also for special teams? When this kid becomes the best gunner in the NFL, will he still be a head scratcher?

Sure, becuase he doesn't score for anyone in fantasy football, which all 75% of these pussy's are complaining about.

7:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This offseason we have improved the offense, the D and the special teams...what's not to like? No team can address every weakness and there is still the June 1 signing period. BTW, saw UConn play Duke this past season and Branch stood out on D...was just jacking people all over the field.

7:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ny... I think most of Shields catches were in ONE GAME.

He hurt his knee, but was already well enough to work out at the combine.

7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RaiderMike said, "This pick now gives the Raiders the 2 best offensive players in college football the last 2 years."
Wrong, this pick gives us the 3 best offensive players in college football the last 3 years. Michael Bush was a better RB than McFadden, and posted better numbers the year he broke his leg. We have 2 great RB's!
I am bittersweet with the pick. I wanted SoH, and it iritated me to see Howie wear a Lamb's cap with his son. I know McFadden is a good talent; he's going to have to prove to me that he is great. In case you didn't notice, his backup went to the Crackgirls of Dallas. I've asked it before, and I will ask it again: is McFadden and Felix Jones really that talented to post the numbers they did? Or was it the running game system Arkansas had? Or was it a combination of both?
Huston Nutt is known for his above average running attacks on offense. I'm not trying to take away from McFadden, but he has to prove to me that he is a great RB.
We did address a few of our needs later in the draft, hopefully we can piece together a few more in free agency and cuts.
Overall, I give the Raiders a solid B draft grade.

8:41 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Nate - if it makes you feel any better, Arkansas doesn't have much of a passing game, so Run DMc and Jones posted their respective amazing numbers against defenses that knew they had to play the run.

Anon 7:19 - we drafted a WR with the pick we received for Washington, not a CB as you imply. And possibly another injury reclamation project at that.

My point was not that Fabrian was traded, but that we received so little for him. He's an immediate player (starter or backup) on most teams. To top it off, the player we select is a longshot to make the roster... even at a position of need for us.

Seems like de ja vu from last year, when we needed to add bodies on O-line and we just didn't pull the trigger.

9:25 AM  
Blogger H said...

Hey guys, late to the party. Congratulations to Panty, Bama and Take. They got their guy.

I turned off the draft after pick five. We didn't have a pick again until Sunday. I didn't even know who else we got until Monday morning.

Based on Kiffin's Q&A McFadden was the pick all along. They just weren't sure he would be there so he was talking up the DL's. Now, I still believe if SOH had been available we would have taken him. But, it's a moot point now.

I see our second pick is primarily a return guy. The way I look at it, our first pick is McFadden and our second round pick was Hall (He's only 24). This has to be one of the youngest Raider teams I can remember.

The Jordan countdown has officially started. There is also the strong potential of Rhodes being gone also. Both of those salaries would go a long way toward signing McFadden.

I'm not sure who said it, but the comment about Bush being injury prone isn't completely factual. His broken leg was the first injury that cost him playing time. It just happened to be a biggie.

Here's the formation I'm hoping to see. Russell, Bush, McFadden and Curry all on the field at the same time. All four can throw the ball well and three can catch (I don't want Russell catching a damn thing).

I do have a feeling that us drafting McFadden had a direct affect on the Chefs taking Dorsey. A highly raged DT with direct knowledg of McFadden.


10:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way Dorsey could catch McFadden is if Darren was carrying a roast beef sandwich instead of the ball

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard K.Harris is an outstanding run blocker. I think the toss left or stretch will be our best friend this year. Maybe line up Miller weak side sometimes.


10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then.....Toss left to McFadden. Curry reverses & gets it going right. McFadden continues up the sideline in high gear as the primary reciever.


10:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda interesting to read and listen to the mediots take on the draft... most are gushing over how well KC did, but not one person has yet mentioned they traded away their BEST PLAYER. He is GONE. That should be factored in. My local paper had grades of every team and they gave the Vikings a high grade because they factored in picking up Allen, but they gave the Raiders a low grade... AND DIDNT FIGURE IN PICKING UP HALL.

At least Mortenson said the Raiders did the right thing with McF... said he will be better than Reggie because he can run between the tackles.

10:46 AM  
Blogger Old Skool Raider Fan said...

Skip Bayless likes McFadden. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

11:44 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

We have signed 3 "FA"s who were Un-Drafted..."OLB"-"CB"-"C"....Video of #77 at "C" are posted for viewing....The "OLB" sounds like a possible Up-Grade...Here is the thread...

Got the USA Today and on the cover it says the "Donko"s are Failures so I have to read it....6 page review....

12:15 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

This was the first 3 we signed..."TE"-"RB"-"OLB" -w- "Vids"

12:19 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

I'm always amused by mediots posting grades for the draft before a single player has set foot on the field. To truly grade a draft they should be grading the 2004 draft, and possibly the 2005 draft since it usually takes players about three years to really get up to NFL level.

For us that would be:
1 Robert Gallery
2 Jake Grove
3 Stuart Schweigert
4 Carlos Francis(x)Out Of League
5 Johnnie Morant(x)OOL
6 Shawn Johnson(x)OOL
6 Cody Spencer(x)NY Jets
7 Courtney Anderson(x)Bills
7 Andre Sommersell(x)OOL

3 remaining players from that draft, 2 with other teams, 4 out of the league. And folks were wondering why we brought in so many free agents. More often than not our draft picks have not panned out for us.

12:31 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

This say's it all...

Last season, in LSU's other 13 games, the Tigers gave up an average of 84.6 rush yards per game and less than a touchdown a game. Against Arkansas, Darren McFadden had 206 and 3 scores on the ground with another touchdown passing. In 2006 against a defense loaded with talent, including Glenn Dorsey and LaRon Landry, both picked in the top 10 in the last 2 NFL drafts, all McFadden did was gain 182 yards on the ground, 2 touchdowns rushing and another passing. You do the math.

12:36 PM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

I think getting Run DMC was a great selection, but because we are 6th rushing and 32 at stopping the run i don't think it was the best selection.

But then if McFadden becomes a HOF and Dorsey becomes a bust it changes everything.

My feelings are to be competitive we must stop the run.

There's excuses floating that Sands had family issues which prevented him from adequately focusing and preparing for the season, although they didn't affect his ability to sign for big money.

Sands needs to step up his game.

Kelly too, needs to step up his game and earn the contract that at the time made him the highest paid DT of all time.

Warren, needs to show up more often.

If one of those three makes a the probowl then the secondary behind it will be making big plays all season long. Our secondary on paper is the most impressive group of DB's on any team in the league. Our 4th string DB is either Stanford or Starks!!!

If they can't stop the run or create pressure than opposing Qb's will find openings and we will lose more than we win.

Our O will be exciting this year with Kiffin utilizing Mcfadden, in different ways but it won't be a high powered, high scoring COlts or Pats type offense. Russell is essentially a rookie and will probably make as many mistakes as great plays.

I think the way we will win, if we win this year is by winning the TOP battle, stopping the other team from running, and controlling the game with long drives.

We are realistically at least one year away from making big plays on offense on a regular basis, but if we keep the coaching staff together than the O-line, QB will build cohesiveness, confidence and only get better and that means a great future!!!!

Meanwhile SDs window is closing and then its back to the bottom of the AFC West were they belong!!!
Denver will probably go through a head coaching change and the identity crisis that follows.
KC is in full rebuilding mode. Their success in the draft and QB will determine whether they rebuild slowly or quickly...

1:02 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


"There's excuses floating that Sands had family issues which prevented him from adequately focusing and preparing for the season, although they didn't affect his ability to sign for big money."

He had 2 deaths in the family after signing his contract...He was out trying to deal with the losses and showed up for training camp out of shape and fell way behind as he was trying to get in shape instead of trying to learn his position better...The turmoil cause him to lose focus early on and he never got it together last year....The word is that problem is all behind him now and he is focusing on the season at hand....

All we know is what the coaching staff is willing to tell us but if Coach Kiffin/"SOB" are cool with what happened than I am feeling pretty good about or "D" making a huge come-back in "08"....It's like getting 2 new "DT"s on the line....Kelly is staying at one position and healthy....Sands is back and focused....Warren and Wilson are very good depth....

Burgas is well known....Jay Richardson is no-longer a "Rookie" after playing well in his 1st season as a late rd pick....A veteran "DE" was added and a "DE" was drafted for depth and development...

Derrick Burgess
Kalimba Edwards
Jay Richardson
Trevor Scott "Rookie"

William Joseph
Tommy Kelly
Terdell Sands
Josh Shaw
Gerard Warren

More to come in trades or "FA" signings....Also we brought in 2 "OLB"s who went un-drafted...One seams like a possible up-grade on the unit to replace Sam Williams as better depth....

Our "DB" are set and a very good unit on paper...

PantyRaider..."D" Improvement!!!!

1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

raider raza said "We are realistically at least one year away from making big plays on offense on a regular basis, but if we keep the coaching staff together than the O-line, QB will build cohesiveness, confidence and only get better and that means a great future!!!!"

raza - thats IF the coaching staff stays together. i read over the weekend that one writer said the raiders 2008 draft will work fine for the next coaching staff. unfortunately, rumors will always fly because it's the raiders! this writer (i forget who) has already plugged in james lofton as the next coach!

we are not quite there personnel-wise but kiffin has been given a possibly great tool to work with. he just needs al davis to leave him alone the next couple of years to get this thing going in the right direction. we can't get any kind of long term stability or cohesiveness if the man on top doesn't let the guys on the bottom finally do their jobs.

its good that al, kiffin, his staff along w/ panty, take and me were on the same page with the mcfadden pick. its a good start and it shows the fans that the team was united. this guy will make our offense really go. superman is a raider!

1:42 PM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

I feel very "minty fresh" and confident about Burgess and Richardson. If we can maintain a lead and force teams to pass, than I'm certain Burgess will hit double digit sacks.

My question marks revolve around Kelly and Sands and overall tackling.
If Sands and Kelly come into this season with an "i got something to prove" attitude and have a good season than i think it will elevate the play of our DB's who will have monster seasons.

Last year we were missing too many tackles, I hope Ryan focuses on on the fundamentals of tackling this off-season. Or let Wilson teach em'

Any early guesses on were or Run D will rank this year??

2:10 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

Here's an example of what I was alluding to in my previous entry:

He throws both receivers we took in this year's draft under the bus before they've taken even one snap. Yet his crystal ball can predict that Lavelle Hawkins(who went to the Titans after we took Shields) will be a quality pro. S.O.S., different season.

3:15 PM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

The Raiders are a team you LOVE or LOVE to HATE.

Few other teams hold that position. Nobody has any passionate ill feelings against the Cardinals or Texans or their owners.

People love to hate on the Raiders because Al and the Raiders used to dominate. We used to break the rules and win. We used to dominate Monday Night Football. We used to take outcasts players and win Superbowls.

Right now we are like the school bully who finally got his ass kicked. Everybody loves it. But you know i think the foundation is set for our Return to Excellence. I just want Al to win one more Superbowl so he can rub it in Taglibitchs face.

Anyways all the post draft analysis are meaningless...their guesses are no better than ours...

3:26 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Pantyraider - still pitchin' after da sale. Gotta love ya, man. I think it's safe to say we're all on board with Run DMc now.

If you think about it, picking up Russell (last year) and McFadden is pretty amazing. RT is right, these guys could be the identity of the Raiders for many years.

In Kiffin's Q&A, he implies McFadden will be given baby steps. I'm not sure I can wait that long. I'd much rather see McFadden and Michael Bush blowing up defenses sooner than later.

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NY... I was just thinking that might be the best part about this situation. Most teams getting a stud RB like this are forced to throw him out there, and I'd say all it does is shorten their careers.

With Fargas and maybe more importantly Bush, we can use McF more sparingly, and he can have a longer career here.

If you look at how SD is using LT... his career is almost certainly over in a few years... same as how the Titans used George 300-400 times a year and his YPA went to shit after just 5 years.

I'm just hoping he stays healthy and out of trouble.

I'm totally on board with this.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

Rhodes Released.

Good, he didn't want to be Raider anyways.

4:16 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Shouldn't that have been Jordan who was released, not Rhodes???

Let's see,

Jordan has to be gone too, right?

4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hmmmm, wasn't expecting that.....

4:58 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

Evidently it was a counter-cap move from trading Washington. I guess someone heard Lombardi suggest that New Orleans should swing a trade for Jordan? Oh, and Rhodes is only 29, not 32 like I said in an earlier post. My bad.

5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talent wise it makes more sense to cut Rhodes. McFadden is the "Lightning" guy now, which is what Rhodes was supposed to be.

But yeah, Jordan is as good as gone. I'm just hoping we make room for Etch.

We're going to lead the league in rushing this year. I see no reason not to.


5:45 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Inside the Numbers ...

If you take a look at our run defense from last year, the numbers are rather grim.

* 4.8 YPC #32 ranked
* 145.9 YPG #31 ranked
* 18 gains of 20+ yards #32 ranked

What impact will an improved offense and the new additions/moves on defense make on our overall run D performance?

I believe if we score early & often on offense, maintain an advantage in TOP by running the ball effectively it should dictate the opponent's offensive game plan to a certain extent. Clearly in close, low scoring games, or games the opponent jumps out to a lead, the opponent rely on a run heavy offense.

The strength of our D is the back 7 in pass coverage. Both Howard & Morrison excel in drop back coverage due to their instincts and speed.

It is a chicken or egg argument but you could make the case that when our new offense is productive and jumps out to an early lead, it will force the opponenet's offense to pass more into the strength of our team D.

As far as the new additions/changes to our D, the run D is in the hands of a few key players;

(1) Kelly should be a major upgrade over Sapp in the UT spot. Kelly is nimble enough to slip by the OG to get penetration but also strong enough at the point of attack to hold his ground and maintain his gap control.

(2) Sands, IMO, will be the MOST pivotal player for our run D to improve. As the NT he needs to take on multiple blockers and in essence clog 2 gaps. The knock on Sands is that he plays too high and doesn't get good leverage. How well (and consistent) Sands plays is a big factor in the success of the LBs. We all know Howard & Morrison have a difficult time shedding blockers who reach the 2nd level.

(3) Wilson is the X factor on obvious run plays where he in the box. Solid, text book tackling at SS will be a big improvement over the shoddy technique of Huff last season.

(4) Robert Thomas at SLB plays a big part in our run D especially on stretch plays and sweeps to his side.

(5) Jay Richardson should get most of his reps on 1st and 2nd down and be substitued with Edwards on passing downs. Richardson needs to take the next step in his career progression. It doesn't matter that he was a nice surprise last season or that he was a "steal" as a 5th rounder. He now has to prove he is worthy of being a starter in the NFL who makes plays.

What would constitute a solid, tangible improvement in our Run D? If we move up in the rankings by 10 ... these would be our numbers:

* 4.2 YPC #22 ranking
* 118.3 YPG #21 ranking
* 12 gains of 20+ yards #22 ranking

7:37 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


I second that emotion...The rushin title will come to "OakTown" in "08"....

Well as always I'm more than willing to step up early so here goes...

Season Record "08"....

1st off....Last year I projected us to be 10-6 if the "OL" showed up and 6-10 if not....Well I was wrong...The "OL" showed up but the "DL" did not...Who was to know..."WR" core sucked for the most part...Also the "QB" play was horrendous....And to think I was campaigning for Culpepper so hard....But he did play better than McClown....

SO what is the big issue this year...."DL"-n-"OLB"s....If these units perform well enough to slow down the running game and get average pressure on the "QB"s...As in 15th "D" in the NFL...Our overall "D" will be a top 10 unit because of the secondary we are fielding....

The "OL" should be even better with the "ZBS" experience under their belts and the addition of Veteran and Rookie players at "OT"-n-"C"....The "WR" core should be vastly improved with Walker-n-Curry-n-Carter...Higgins-n-2 Rookies we drafted for depth...."TE" is settled and very good...."RB"s...What can I say...We will have the Rushin Title..."QB" should become a strength instead of a weakness just because JaMarcus will be the starter and get sufficient reps to prepare for the season....NO more "QB-ShuffleBoard" from game to game...."RB" by comity can work but "QB" by comity sucks the big one....

"08"s schedual is very favorable for the Raiders and half our division is falling on hard times and the other 1/4 didn't improve....Got older and status quot....

Projection....10-6 as a wild card team and we win one play-off game....Against "SD"....

Who is our competition for that "WC" spot...Jacksonville-Tenn-Cleveland and possibly Houston...NE-Pitts-Indy-SD should again be division winners....Indy-n-Pitts get the 1st-n-2nd place Finnish....NE-n-SD play the 1st week of the "PO"s....We get SD and the other "WC" team goes to NE....After we win we go up against Pitts in a "Snow-Game" in January and play well but don't advance...Pitts-n-Indy play in the AFC championship and Pitts goes to the "SB" against Dallas with their second year coach and loose....

Bill Cowher is the name that services to replace "ShannaAss" after a 3-13 record as coach at "MuleHigh" but he refuses the job....They turn to "Marty" ball instead....The "Donko"s get the 2nd pick in the "09" draft and "SadFran" gets the #3...Atlanta gets the #1 after their 1st rd "QB" flops and their "D" give up huge yardage and points....Should have taken "DT" Dorsey....

Well that's my very advanced pre-season projection...I would be interested in reading yours if your ready to walk the plank so soon...


8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While on vacation, my wife was napping so I watched some dog of a show called Around the Horn on ESPN.

Only ESPN guy I've seen that was positive about Run DMC was Woody Paige - a Denver sports reporter who is one most vitrolic Raiders Haters I've ever read.

He said that this pick made the Raiders relevant again and that it would level the playing field between the Raiders and the rest of the Division.

I hope to goodness he's right.


9:16 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


I know from posting Smack on the "Donkey"s site at the Denver-Post that their biggest fear was us drafting McFadden because they can't even stop Fargas....Most of their fans were hoping for a stud "RB" and "DT"....They got neither...All they drafted is the "OT"...A smallish "PR" "WR"..."C" in the 3rd....Most people graded them "D"...They are toast...

Most Valuable Network was very positive about our draft..."B"...

9:35 PM  
Blogger Raider Raza said...

Sapp's Take:
“After three games last season, LaMont Jordan led the NFL in rushing,” Sapp said. “But LaMont is like the worst offseason running back I’ve ever been around; he was out of shape and couldn’t keep it going. Then, remember late in the season, Justin Fargas was slashing and cutting and gaining all those yards? (McFadden) is the same guy, but he’s faster. I promise you, this guy will hit those holes and take it to the house, and then our offensive line will slash people up.”

Damn i'm going to miss Sapp.

And i liked the line were he said our line, he still thinks of the Raiders as his team.

10:10 AM  
Blogger kigleigh said...

Michael Bush !!!!!!!!! you wait and see Nation,he is going to be huge..

3:48 PM  

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