Sunday, May 14, 2006

Raider Take Reader Hotline

Raider Take is grateful for the various readers and commentators who email me with a variety of takes, tips and insights on a regular basis. Following are a couple of recent Raider Take Hotline items that the Raider Nation might find interesting:

CHARGUR FANS UNITE

Raider Octopus tipped Raider Take off to SuperCharger Tom’s blog and his corresponding Official Raiders Haters Universe web site. I noticed that, in the midst of a rather infantile rant on the Raider Nation, SuperCharger Tom makes a big point about Raiders fans not being able to spell…and then immediately misspells the word “accusing.” How’s that for righteous karma? Now, Raider Take does not profess to be a paragon of spelling and grammar, which is why I don’t go around saying that Chargers fans can’t spell (although I might say that the closest they’ve come to a Lombardi trophy is the Los Angeles Raiders). However, if I did say it, I'd probably run spell check, at least on the next sentence. Since our friend’s blog will likely be corrected once this take is published, I am providing the following screen shot for the sake of posterity:

SuperCharger Tom also says that Raiders fans “defend their pathetic football team and organization in spite of the current facts.” Here are some current facts that he might find helpful: AFC West titles won by the Chargers in this decade: one. AFC West titles won by the Raiders in this decade: three. AFC Championship appearances by the Chargers in this decade: none. AFC Championship appearances by the Raiders in this decade: two.

MIKEY (RAIDER) LIKES IT!

Raiderdecoachella from Palm Springs wrote to tell me about his son “Michael Raider.” Not as in nickname, but as in birth certificate. How cool is that? Michael, whose official middle name is Raider, is 15 years old…Do we have any other official “Raider” kids out there, and if so, what are their ages? Who is the oldest Raider, and who is the youngest?


I asked Raiderdecoachella how he managed to pull it off, and here is his reply: “When he was born I had to go to the administration office to give them Mikey's name and the girl looked at me and said, 'Are you sure you want to do that?' And of course I said yes, and he got the name. When I went back to my wife's room, I told her, and she was more like, 'I knew you were going to do something like that!'"

And how did the rest of the family take it? “My family is a blend of Spanish and English speaking. The elders find it interesting and the youngsters find it awesome, my whole family (because of me) are Raiders fans, and I know that most of my nephews and nieces would name their kids like Mikey. Who knows, maybe they will end up giving their kids Raider as their first name. Mikey is the proudest kid in the world when it comes to his name!”

27 Comments:

Blogger js said...

What an embarrassing error! The poor, benighted fellow has my sympathies, and not just because he's a Chargers fan. Supercharger's affliction is comparable that of a Sisyphus fan--"He'll get that boulder all the way to the top this season. I know he will if we all just root real... oops, back down the hill. Oh well, he'll do it next time!"

If I were capable of pity for such a creature, I'd express it.

7:47 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Excellent! Of course, given the level of discourse on his Raiders Haters site, SuperCharger Tom probably thinks that Sisyphus is a venereal disease.

8:18 PM  
Blogger js said...

Of course, I made an embarrassing error of my own, neglecting to place a "to" after "comparable". I note, however, that I've corrected my error. Supercharger has yet to correct his.

As for what sort of brain-eating palsy Supercharger might imagine Sisyphus to be, deponent saith not. (If Supercharger should read this, RT, kindly help him with the larger words. He might need it.)

10:22 PM  
Anonymous scorpio2562 said...

it's amazing how these chumps dis raider fans when their team has won SQUAT!

dude, if you are reading this, the only time you'll be worthy of dumping on us is when you win a superbowl or two. we got 3. how many do you have? (silence. this is where the cricket sound effects come in) uh-huh. thought so.

when i was in the navy, i was stationed in san diego for 3 years (1980-83). back then, their team was loaded man. fouts, winslow, joiner, muncie, chandler, dean etc. they couldn't win a superbowl then and haven't up to this point so whussup wid dat bee-otch? how's that for spelling?

11:53 PM  
Blogger Leighraider said...

Can you imagine using up that much time on a team you are supposed to hate?Despite his attempts to justify his RAIDER hating,he's still more wrapped up in them more than his own team,when it comes down to it,love them or hate them, the Silver And Black are more interesting to talk about than the Chargers.

9:31 AM  
Anonymous LK said...

Super Charger Tom
badly needs a dictionary
Can you spell 'moron'

The haiku thing's over?? Sorry, my bad....

9:34 AM  
Blogger NFL Adam said...

ChargerTom’s site is infantile. Those photo-shopped pictures are not funny. His site has the average intelligence and wit of one of those “Calvin pissing” stickers.

9:43 AM  
Blogger NY Raider said...

Did anyone read part two of that take? Forget the chargers fans! We all know there dumb, they route for the chargers! Raidercoachalla gave his son a middle name Raider! Not only is that the coolest $h** I heard all week! I think I'm more impressed that he's still alive to tell his story. See I'm from a latin back round as well and my Puerto Rican wife (to be, 12 days and counting) would have cut my ass if I did that. Raidercoachalla you are my idol! P.S. That Charger fan may be right I can't spell, but I do know how to use spell check. Chargers SUCK!! Go Raiders!

10:46 AM  
Anonymous No Quarter said...

Who is the most hated team in the NFL? We are, of course. That is an honor, IMO. Who is the most hated team in the NBA? The Lakers. MLB? The Yankees. Get my drift? Losers hate winners. Have you ever heard of websites or blogs devoted to hating the Saints? The Cardinals? For that matter, the Chargers? There might be, but I doubt they get as many hits as an anti-Raider site would.

Let the haters have there momment of exhultation. It will soon be brought to a violent end. If there are any Raider-haters reading this, please try to understand, if you can, that I mean violence on the gridiron. The game is a violent one. Don't be scared. We aren't going to jump you or rape you or any of the other things that you like to imagine that we do in order to justify your hate.

One more thing. They like to point out that we haven't won a superbowl in 22 years. We are living in the past, according to them. RT and others have already shown the fallacy of this arguement so I will not rehash it. What I will say is this. At least the Raiders have had extended periods of success in our history. We have had glory. What have the Chargers had? A few winning seasons recently. A few brief lapses of success out of their habitually awful existence? In 20 years they will be reminiscing about the years when they had LT and were able to put together a few years when they won more games than they lost and they will call them glory years. LMAO!

12:28 PM  
Blogger NFL Adam said...

A couple of FYI's.

The most hated team in the NFL is the Dallas Cowboys. Raiders are easily the most hated on the West Coast. The Dallas thing is a national pheonom. In fact, the Raiders barely register on the East Coast.

The Chargers do have won title, the 1963 AFL Championship.

Charger Tom (or whomever he is) still blows.

12:35 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

The most hated team is by fans is the Cowgirls. The most hated team by other NFL teams (including Dallas) and referees, are the RAIDERS. Even though they have won more Super Bowls, the Cowboys aren't known for being as nasty as the Raiders. So I somewhat disagree with your take nfladam.

3:20 PM  
Anonymous Stick'Em said...

Without question, the Cokeboys, the KY Cowboys, the Cowpokes - whatever you call'em - absolutely have the longest list of players I hate worse than a case of untreated syphilis.

And yes, I mean 'syphilis'. 'Sisyphus' was a Corinthian king doomed in Hades for thinking he was more clever than the gods. Untreated syphilis makes you blind and demented.

Lemme count the ways I hate them:

1. Tony Dorsett for having a son

2. Michael Irvin for celebrating every 1st down like it was the 4th of July; he's the only player I EVER cheered for having his neck broken

3. Meion Sanders for his hubris and being scared to tackle

4. Terrell Owens for, well, you know...

I have to stop now before a torrent of epithets that would make Yosemite Sam blush erupt from my mouth...

Sassafrassin' rootin' tootin' hoppin' horny toad #$&*in' DALLAS!!!

If they are America's team, I'm d@mn sure glad the Raiders are America's anti-team, 'cause I sure like what the Raiders stand for a whole lot better than what the Cokeboys do!!!

'nuff said

4:06 PM  
Anonymous scorpio2562 said...

that guy is a total prick. he has nothing better to do with his sorry life.

i just entered a response on his blog site only to find out it needs to be approved. so basically, he'll only post the favorable replies.

don't even waste your time folks. this guy is a lowlife.

6:52 PM  
Blogger Doobie said...

Stick'em, classic #1 choice there.

I'm sure if Junior himself read your comment, he'd have missed the joke the same way he missed every tackle.

6:52 PM  
Blogger NY Raider said...

OH! Something just hit me! They say we lost Bucs there right. BUT, what about XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26. Just a thought.

7:32 PM  
Blogger Doobie said...

Hey Scorp, don't even worry about it. If you look, he's put up a whopping five posts...including the welcome message...since February. In fact, this current post is from two weeks ago and the one before that is from March 20th. The dude's not even updating his blog. And since there's no comments, it doesn't appear that he's even bothering to do any housekeeping with it.

Half-ass...ironically, just how the Chargers franchise is run. Sounds like he's the perfect rep!

8:03 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Nice list Stickem.

Everything about the Cowgirls is artifical...From the turf they play on, to their owner's plastic surgery, to the self-annoited moniker of "America's team".

There seems to be no middle ground when it comes to the Cowgirls & Raiders...Fans either hate these teams or love these teams.

8:04 PM  
Blogger NFL Adam said...

RE: Raider Nate

I would agree that the Raiders were once the most hated team in the 1970s (but you could make a case for the Steelers), but free agency has killed that. The team most hated by NFL players is the Denver Broncos, especially be defensive players. Many feel that the Donks o-line is the dirtiest group of players in the NFL.

9:40 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

They may hate the donks at the moment, but it is like when the yanks come into town; visiting stadiums are overran with Raider fans; driving the home fans crazy. Here in TX since 2001, I've been to 2 Texans/Raiders, and a Raider/Crackwagon game, and there were about the same # of Raider fans than Crackwagon and Texan fans. Raider fans were dressed up and painted, and you could feel the Oakland excitement. It was watered down compared to actually being in Oaktown (which I have been many times, though my last game was in 2000 before I moved here).
People don't like it, because they know Raider fan is coming out of the woodwork to see their team. I want to travel up to KC and see the Raiders punk it to the Chefs. That would be epic!
I'm not talking about the '70s, I'm talking about NOW! The past few years, the Raiders have been soft, but now they know we have a coach that is teaching the team to punch people in the face, and you can read about how much they don't like it. They hated us when Gruden was coach too, because they knew the potential the Raiders have always had, was going to be taught to play with that toughness and discipline to win. THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN, DISCIPLINE! Did you know, that Davis tried talking to Jimmy Johnson into being our coach, and it was Johnson who recommended Turner? Did you know that Davis has been trying (for years) to talk Howie Long out of the booth to be defensive coordinator? Why? Because he knows that these guys will bring discipline to their game, and that will strike fear and hatred with the opposition. That is why he hired Shell, and you can already read that the toughness is back, from the players, and from the opposition. The talent we have will be disciplined, and people are not going to like it, because the Raiders will succeed! So when I say the Raiders are the most hated team by other NFL Teams, and Referees; I'm not talking about the 70s, I'm talking about a very recent past, and a new future.
Do you feel it?

5:56 AM  
Anonymous LK said...

Stick'em--great list. I'll add #5, Jimmy [has no] Johnson.

BTW, "rootin', tootin', hoppin' horny toad" just rolls off the lips; think I'll use that today, con permiso

8:03 AM  
Blogger NFL Adam said...

No. I don't feel it.

Nate, you said the fans hate the Cowboys the most, but it was the players who hated the Raiders the most.

So when I pointed out that today's players now hate the Broncos the most because of the dirty (expletive) they pull, you contradicted an earlier statement and said the fans hate the Raiders the most.

I'll try to keep this simple. Judging by today:

Fans hate the most: Cowboys.
Players hate the most: Broncos.

If you want to talk about taking over a stadium, the Cowboys fans do that the most. I went to both the Cowboys and Raiders game at the Murph last year and the Crackwagon had a much bigger crowd than the Raiders. Green Bay had a bigger crowd two years ago than the Raiders. The Giants, Jets, et all, all take over the Murph, so it's nothing new.

8:50 AM  
Blogger Doobie said...

Nate, although penalties aren't always a true indicator of discipline, it's worth noting that the Raiders led the league three of the five years ('91, '93 & '94) that Shell last held office. In fact, in Shell's last year ('94) the Raiders set the league record for most penalties in a season with 156 (since surpassed by the '98 Chiefs with 158). That's nearly 10 penalties a game.

Although Shell may not be able to bring back discipline in the "lack of penalties" aspect, I'm hoping he'll be able to bring back disipline in the aspect of teaching this team to successfully execute.

9:57 AM  
Anonymous Stick'em said...

Sorry, had to walk away from the computer before I got started on my #5 most hated KY Cowboy, for I truly feared I would combust in a fit of Tourettes...

#5 has gotta be Larry Brown, the cornerback who couldn't bump'n'run into a coffee table in the dark.

Bottom line: If I ever hear one more idjiot tell me, "I love the Cowboys. They're God's favorite team"...

I'll blow that Cowpoke varmit to smithereens!!! LOL!

1:49 PM  
Anonymous Mad Stork 83 said...

Hey Doobie, good points about discipline, but I am a firm beiliever that:

1) No matter who the Raider coach is, there will be penalties aplenty, the refs are conditioned. Turner's Cowboy teams were disciplined, but there were flags in Oakland. Gruden is a strong coach but there were penalties.

2) The record holding '98 Chefs were coached by noted disciplinarian Marty Schottenheimer. "General" Tom Coughlin's Giants were right on our tails in penalties last year, and they went to the playoffs by the way.

I don't want to lead the league in penalties, but we will probably be up there. but that doesn't mean we can't win...

2:28 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

I can live with the penalties as long as Shell inspires & leads the Raiders to play with passion, effort, and toughness.

From the feedback on mini-camp, I get the sense that Shell's firm leadership style & direction is taking hold in shaping the identity of the team in his image.

7:16 PM  
Blogger Doobie said...

Stork, Calico, agreed. I gave up on the hope of reducing penalties long ago. I just hope he can teach this team passion, execution and good old smash mouth football.

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"OH! Something just hit me! They say we lost Bucs there right. BUT, what about XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26. Just a thought. "

I'm a Charger hater but NO ONE thought that SD had a chance to win that SB. We were favored to win ours. As for the penalties bit, back in the day the Raiders penalties were more aggressive in nature (e.g late hitting) not stupid and undisciplined (false starts, & encroachment).

9:15 AM  

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