Tuesday, July 31, 2012

A Question of "Now"

“I mean, they’re real strict on discipline now as far as showing up to meetings (on time), they’re even making us check in for lunches and dinners now,” safety Tyvon Branch said, via Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News Group. “We know that our discipline is what got us in trouble in the past,” Branch said. “That stuff trickles down on the field, and we need to cut down on the penalties if we want to be the team we want to be.”

Now? They're real strict on discipline now?

There's sure a lot of talk already coming out of Napa, eh? In my last take, I noted how our defensive players are thrilled to finally be playing "real" defense.

Now they're talking retroactive smack about an institutional lack of discipline, even though promises of discipline and accountability have hardly been in short supply during preceding training camps.

I don't know what to think. On the one hand, the players sound liberated. In fact, they sound relieved. On the other hand, we've heard it all before, haven't we?

For years now, I've been shouting from the rooftops: no excuses. Well, we're finally and completely out of them. Our defensive "stars" are stepping up to the microphones and saying, "We're now exercising discipline. We're now playing real defense. We now have a defensive-minded head coach."

Good. Now we'll find out how good--or bad--they really are, right?

59 Comments:

Blogger nyraider said...

Absolutely.

Winning appears to be the number one priority, top to bottom, and should trump all other aggendas, personal or otherwise. The football machine is running full steam ahead.

4:56 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Everything I've read, heard, and seen pertaining to our new head coach has positive in terms of leadership, command, and clearly defined vision.

Last year, the defensive unit was ranked #29 in point allowed (433); ranked #29 in yards allowed (6,201); ranked #31 in 1st downs allowed (369); and ranked #32 in yards per attempt (5.1).

In regards to our D in 2012, I don't think it is reasonable to expect a switch to be flipped over night and go from one of the worst units to an elite unit.

My expectation is that we will see solid, steady, tangible, quantifyable progress from camp to week 1 to week 5, and throughout the season.

7:07 PM  
Anonymous Memdf said...

Watched the open practice on the nfl network. Palmer looked good moving around. Granted no one was chasing but still seemed mobile. Charlie Casserly is one of the few on that network that I listen to. He claims that with a full camp and a healthy McFadden, CP3 can be a top 10 qb.
The other reporters kept saying "really, really? "
Casserly stayed on point.
He also mentioned lack of real depth at rb.

He also said that the D did nothing to improve itself. As good a coach as Allen might be, they are several players and drafts short of where the Raiders want to be.

Thinks they can put points up but can't keep the other teams O from controlling the clock.

For the record, I agree with him on all these points save the rb comment. Have to see on that one.

10:37 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

"He also said that the D did nothing to improve itself"

-- agree and disagree.

Agree about the need to infuse more talent on that side of the ball from future drafts and free agent acquisitions in 2013 and beyond.

However, disagree about "doing nothing to improve" in terms of putting the current players in better positions to succeed.

The biggest improvement on D will come from the MAJOR changes implemented by a HC and DC -- scheme, philosophy, multiple looks, less predictability, more discipline, etc.

I expect our D to improve incrementally across the board in terms of measurable progress in the significant statistical benchmarks.

1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for camp... I have been there and see progress for both units. its early in the process and they are installing the base for both. as for players, DMC looks strong without issue. Goodson looks to be #2 on the RB chart for now and a fullback will be doing our short yard work...... Carson is crisp! Has a command of the field and is far better than the others on the list....Prior has much to improve with his passing and footwork. Will be at camp this week and will let u know what i see....Cheers for now

10:48 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

From what I've garnered from the beat writers, the practices have been going extremely well... very up-tempo, businesslike, and with the new systems being picked up quickly by the units.

It will be interesting to see the 1st preseason game vs. the Cowboys this upcoming Monday.

9:49 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Tommy Kelly made a statement about "Hard to break old habits" when discussing his troubles jumping offsides.
This kind of goes along with the Take here, that there seemed to be a lazy attitude on the Raiders team the past 11 years. Now they have to play and work to be paid, no more scholarships.
JUST WIN, BABY!

6:36 AM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...

RT,

In the 1960's, 70's, and 80's, the Raiders had many great players that thrived in an environment of little, to no rules.

Now we can ask ourselves. Did the environment cause the players to excel, or were the players so great, they would have succeeded under any circumstances ?

One thing is for sure. Since around 1995, the Raiders, the Gruden yrs aside, have talked big, but played small.

I think Reggie Mckenzie, and Dennis Allen, have only begun the task of remaking the Raiders roster.

Reggie did the best he could in the off season, with limited draft picks, and cap space.

I'm sure Reggie would have liked to make many more moves then he was able to make.

So whatever happens this season. Remember this is the very early stages of what Reggie intends the Raiders to look like 2 years from now.

But yes, the players left on the roster will be expected to fight to win their jobs. And perform at a high level to keep that job.

So let the games begin. And let the best players be the last ones standing.

9:01 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Raider 00 -

I agree -- your post is very grounded in reality.

We are in year 1 of a brand spanking new era. There is a lot of work yet to be done.

You simply don't go from being out of the playoff 9 straight seasons to hoisting the Lombardi trophy over-night.

It is a process. It takes time, patience, talent, stability, leadership, and a unified vision.

The important thing is to be building a culture, system, team, and organization that is doing everything in it's collective power to put the team in the best possible position to be competitive, make the playoffs, win playoff games, and ultimately, play for a SB ring.

Quite frankly, there has been a remarkable, tremendous amount of work already done in a very short period of time to get the team on the right track for future, sustainable success.

Cap space and a bouuntiful of draft picks in 2013 will be golden!

I have been extremely impressed with McKenzie and Allen's work to date.

Onwards & upwards! Go Raiders!

10:02 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Randy Hanson is at it again. How did this idiot ever gain the trust of Al Davis?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/08/ex-raiders-assistant-randy-hanson-arrested-for-assault/

5:14 AM  
Anonymous The Disease said...

Well I Am Screeming!!..."SOB" Posted That The Troll Has been Warned...


That was regarding posting his crap disrespecting Al Davis…When another poster saw him doing it again I looked to see what was said and copy posted it twice now so they don’t miss it…I will prolley post it again and again!!…

I also made the reference to walking away for a while…I went threw that bitches crap on another board and watched it melt down and have no desire to go threw that again here…The CBS posters have made it very clear what a disruptive ass the bitch is and we clarified that he forms several identities talking to himself and turns on posters who try to have a discourse with his the moment they disagree…Also that he uses the same incorrect punctuation and that it spills over onto his “Shadows” as well…

With so much now documented I have to question the non-action but know as well that he will just be back again and again under a new name or one that he has already formed…

Simple fact is that bitch is just going to bring out the worse in all of us as time goes by and that’s pathetic…We will end up looking like the “Cancer” in all of this!!!


"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Aug 9, 2012

9:39 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Now Your Completely Exposed "JONES" Bitch!!..."Terrell Randal $$man"...

As I said all along you can try to hide but you can't hide from yourself!!!

PantyRaider....Case Closed!!!!/_

11:27 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

LOL...I've been watching the site you have recently infected and you have turned that site into what you did to this one. It is you "Agent Orange" that uses the multiple poster game to play your insanity. Now you have done it over there and try to make out like you are the poster trying to clean up the mess. It's obvious that it is you who is creating the mess, just as you did on this site.

You are THE cancer, just how many fake names you post under is the question. By the way, what's up with you saying the Raiders will win the West now?

I also see Levi ignores you like a bug and most of the posters are starting to catch on to your game. It really must suck being you, hey JETHRO?

JONES

1:57 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Jones, he's right. You're completely exposed as having a grounded perspective and being a diehard Raiders' fan. Sorry, dude.

Aside from that, I have no idea what he's rambling about. I just know that things have been quiet here, aside from a periodic exchange of thoughts regarding the Raiders and their upcoming season; then this clown hit the site like a drive-by shooting.

What a shame!

2:26 PM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...

Here's a fearless prediction for the upcoming season.

Raiders will install some "Wildcat" plays featuring Terrelle Pryor.

Pryor will perform so well, that he will become the starting QB by mid-season.

Just going with my gut on this. I think Palmer is on the downside.

I also think signing Lienart was the only bad move Reggie made this off season.

Can't think of one thing Lienart has ever done in the NfL that encourages me.

Pryor has the arm, and the legs it takes to make it as a NFL QB these days.
Just a question of him getting the experience.

Bringing him along slowly in a wildcat offense makes sense to me.

I think Pryor will end up being Al Davis' last great gift to his team.

7:09 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Raider 00 -

I respectfuflly disagree with most of your points above and I guess we will see how things unfold.

Point 1: Pryor being the starting QB by midseason.

Personally, I think Pryor is a major long-shot to EVER become a starting QB. Would love to see him make leaps and bounds in his progress over the next few years but to date, his is nothing more than a project with athletic abilities.

Point 2: Palmer is on the downside.

Based on his performance the last 3-4 seasons, I would agree with you but there are numerous variables that will go into Palmer's effectiveness in 2012. I believe his brief hiatus from football, changing teams, a full camp, an above average OLine, rushing attack, and skilled WRs will allow Palmer to get back to a top (not elite) level QB.

Point 3: I also think signing Lienart was the only bad move Reggie made this off season.

As a #1, Lienart isn't a fit. As an experienced back-up with familiarity with Knapp, he is a solid pick-up.

7:26 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

LIES Won't cover over your tracks!!!

You have been exposed as usual!!

PantyRaider....Chino Hills CA!!!!/_

11:27 PM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...

Calico,

I'm surprised to find you are so down on Mr. Pryor.

The trend in the NFL these days is QB's making big plays with their legs.

That is why players like Cam Newton, RG3, and to a lesser extent, Tim Tebow, are so dangerous.

By the way, I have not heard that the Raiders intend to use Pryor in a wildcat scheme.
But it is my great hope that they will.

That is my point. Palmer is a pocket passer, with no ability to escape the rush.

Lienart can move a little, but has not shown he can throw the ball, either from the pocket, or on the run.

Pryor, we know, has a big arm, and can run like the wind.

At the very least, this makes him suited to run the wildcat, 8 to 10 plays a game.

And lets face it. If Palmer falters, Lienart is not the answer.

That would leave Pryor as the go to guy.

11:43 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

IMO, the Raiders sink or swim with Palmer. The separation between Palmer and Pryer is light years.

According to the media watching practices, Lienart is #2, and it's not even close. I think Pryer is a longshot to ever be a credible backup QB.

If he can be converted to WR, he won't be the first or last former QB to do so. This year, however, he will be holding a clipboard.

5:08 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

From Corkran:

"...take it from someone who sees Palmer every day. He looks great in this offense. His mobility isn't an issue, his arm strength is fine and his conditioning is top notch."

Add to that the fact that Palmer is veteran savvy and calls protections and audibles at the line with the best of them.

5:16 AM  
Blogger Storminator said...

Going to Pryor is one of those wacky maverick ideas that I hope the Raiders are moving away from. Palmer is clearly a professional, prepared, polished QB in the NFL. His skills go far beyond arm strength or mobility.

If we're down to Leinart, our season is in trouble. He might squeeze out a win or two if the rest of the team can carry him. That would be a lot better than Boller did, if it happens.

If Pryor comes in on some gimmick plays he has a chance at success. If he becomes The Man we're in enormous trouble because he lacks the experience of calling plays, protections, reading pro defenses, and probably won't be able to install the full offense. In short, he's pretty limited right now. He's simply not ready to be a starting NFL quarterback - physical skills aside.

I desperately hope the Raiders days of throwing unprepared physical specimens out there are over.

6:23 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raider00...

Here Are Their Times....Guess Who Is Who???....

40 Time:

4.91……….
4.63 ….
4.36 Unofficial….4.41 Official…

If you guessed Leinart as the slowest you were correct...Palmer's time should have an * sense this was years ago before knee surgery...

Pryor is loaded with yet unrealized potential which we hopefully see Monday Night!!

PantyRaider....Pryor Will Have His Shot!!!/_

7:30 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

40-times for a QB? Really? Ok, Bubba Gump!

9:14 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Screw Yourself Dumb Bitch!!

Was I posting anything to you??...

NOT!!!

Go hold arm and arm with your boyfriend!!...JONES!!!..That other LIAR!!!

9:29 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

You are a terrible Raiders fan who also wants to be an Internet bully, but you're not even good at that.

Good luck in prison.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

40 times are irrelevant for a QB.

The best QBs use their awareness to slide a step forward, backward, or laterally to avoid pressure while keeping their eyes down the field.

Even super athletic QBs in the past (Elway, Young) or the current crop (Newton, RG3) do the majority of their best work within the pocket.

12:48 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

As far as Pryor being utilized within the offensive play package, I'm all for it.

Of course this would be limited to just a handful of plays but it would be exciting to see Pryor in some goal line situations, wild-cat, 2 pt. conversions, WR sets, trick plays, etc.

If he is a contributor to a few positive, impactful plays, that would be a real plus.

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...

"If he(Pryor) is a contributor to a few positive, impactful plays, that would be a real plus."
**********************************

I agree Calico, and that's all I am hoping for.

That Pryor's athletic abilities do not get wasted on the bench.

And if Pryor does run the wildcat well. Hey, why not dream big.

Remember, Pryor is a serious athlete. He takes staying in shape to heart.
So I can only conclude he will apply himself in the same way, to learning the Raiders playbook.

Pryor is not Jemarcus Russell, who when he took his shirt off, looked like an advertisment for Jello Pudding.

1:12 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

3rd string QB's don't usually attract such attention. Pryor is way behind the top 2 QB's, if the 'wildcat' is such a big thing in the NFL, why do we never see it? It takes more than being a "serious athlete" or a "workout rat" or a "fast time in the 40" to create a QB that can win in the NFL. Throwing in a 3rd string QB to run a few plays because he can run, is mickey mouse football, unless it's garbage time.

Pryor is a non issue until he can prove that he belongs in the discussion. Pryor and his 'pimp'...trolling all day long trying to pimp his boy into contention.....he must be in jail?

JONES

4:34 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Worse Fan Ever...That's Held By "NY-LIAR!!!

What type of "NetScum" would do something like this....Here is a clown who has continually posted disrespectful -n- adverse comments about the Raider Organization but now tries to slander a very respected and very well read sports "Mediot" in order to support his derogatory agenda....Never would something like what is posted here have appeared in anything written by "JMac" on his blog...Here is the thread in question to "JMac" blog....

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/12/01/cable-qa-23/

Here is the thread where this clown is posting such lies and continues to attempt to bash me for exposing such atrocities...

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16702745&postID=3288242638413175066

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16702745&postID=6205987140604898439

The following is exerts from his continued line of lies to attempt to cover his tacks or justify the disgusting content he has posted....

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nyraider said...

Interesting exchange from Cable's Q&A.

Q: Is Jacoby currently a starter?

Cable: Based on our health at that position, yes.

Q: So you expect him to be out there this week, or do you have to wait until the corpse wakes up and tells you what to do?

You think he/she means Al Davis?

5:28 PM

nyraider said...

PR - don't get your panties in a bunch over the Q&A I posted. I don't condone it. If that’s a jab at Al Davis it is disrespectful beyond belief. I’m surprised Herrera wasn't there to flex his paper muscles and escort that person out of the PC.

4:53 AM

nyraider said...

As for the Q&A, I was genuinely shocked by the statement. That's why (and the only reason) I posted it. In the few years I've been here at RT, I have never dissed the man in that way, and don’t expect others to, especially professional media. That’s totally uncalled for and, as I said, unprofessional. I remain a fan of Al Davis, despite that I disagree with the way he runs the team. Whether you chose to believe that or not really makes no difference to me. It’s a fact.

3:21 PM

nyraider said...

Ok, something very strange happened.

The Q&A I posted this morning was verbatim from J-Mac’s blog. I went back to it and found the content in question had been removed. I then searched the web for another transcript and found the same language as now posted on J-Mac’s site.

I assure you, this is not a hoax, at least not by me.

The perpetrator is either the author of the Q&A section I read this morning or it was removed (A) because it was distasteful and classless, or (B) to protect the media individual who made the comment.

I would like to email J-Mac and ask, but I am unable to find his email address (which is no surprise considering all the nuts he would hear from, today me being one).

I have no answer. If you want to believe I made it up, I have no proof that I didn’t. However, I assure you I did not. As I said, I posted it verbatim, in pure shock that it was said. I have stood behind every post I've ever made on this site. I have no problem accepting what is fact and acknowledging when I'm wrong.

However, this is pure mystery. Perhaps it will surface again in some fashion. Hard to believe that could get put out there then removed without a trace.

4:49 PM

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nyraider said...

X -

Nice detective work. Thanks. Those same two questions originally appeared on J-Mac's blog and, apparently, they were quickly removed from the content.

Bizarre!

It must be bogus, because the responses don't suit the questions.

4:59 AM

nyraider said...

PR - "On-Going NOT finished by a damn long shot!!!..."

What will J-Mac's live blog reveal? As X proved, those were not my words.

http://goo.gl/EU4eh

9:37 AM

nyraider said...

PR - What can I say? You are a tool.

If you read the link that X provided, it stated the "funny" Q&A was posted by J-Mac.

Here's the source as stated:

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer Wednesday, December 1st, 2010 at 4:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.

As I stated, this is where I cut it out, and the questionable content was later removed from J-Mac's blog for what should be obvious reason.

This blogger cut the entire article before it could be altered.

If you don't believe me, than you must believe I am influential enough to have power over the entire Internet and what other people write. Either way, it is you that is wrong... like usual.

10:38 AM

JONES said...

NO "NYR" NO Movable "RubberWall"s can save you this time...

WASTE and the "crew" all they live for...the argument.

Jmac got hammered buy his boss and removed it like NYR said but WASTE wants to argue. WASTE is a cancer...

I know TRUTH when I see it.

Jmac wont lie

JONES

11:30 AM

nyraider said...

I stated that I believed McDonald's blog was my source, which was later confirmed by the independent website link provided by X that also stated McDonald as the source.

I didn’t author it, nor was I ever on the website X provided prior to reading it there (so I could not have copied from that site).

But that’s not good enough for you. You wan't to extract a pound of flesh for ******* j-walking.

nyraider said...

Hey Waste, how come Jerry hasn't posted here to put me in my place like you said he would?

LIAR! LIAR!

I know why, because you are a child and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty changing your diaper.

Swim, panty waste, swim! You have some painting to do.

4:58 AM
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Absolutely NOTHING like that liar's crap ever appeared in J-Mac's blog but that "Net Scum" continues to this day to present his LIE!!!

7:26 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

zzzzzzzzzzzzz, wake me up when there is real football discussion.

7:45 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

That rant speaks volumes to how mentally ill you are.

You disappear for months and the first thing you do when you return is go right back in your old routine.

It's a real shame that intelligent and respective football discussion seems to take a back seat when you post here.

7:47 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

LoL!!...Open that "Can-o-Worms" and I force feed you the whole damn thing!!!

You ran you stupid little mouth and got your own CRAP shoved back down it...Maybe you think before you Rant next time??

For the record:

I have forecast a "Slow Start" and prolley playing from behind at the Bye while gaining momentum...Consistently!!!

"DA" -n- Knapp are starting to build a little excitement in me from practice but NOTHING has been seen as yet and I'm still skeptical/doubtful???...With Hopes!!

"Injuries" was what I projected as our biggest concern and that's a mounting problem already...."OLB"/"RB"/"TE"/"S"/"DT"/"WR" are already being effected!!!

Anyone who says I'm posting otherwise is a damn LIAR!!!

I have made NO claims to being "Champ" this season!!!With the up hill climb in our path that would be ignorant!!

PantyRaider....Pryor's Pimp And Damn Proud!!!/_

8:16 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

" wake me up when there is real football discussion."

You can thank "JONES" posting as " The Disease" for that instigation followed by "NYLiar" running his childish ass mouth supporting that ignorant BITCH!!

I had removed myself from this contentious atmosphere until the "Net Scum" made it personal again!!

Than when attempting to post about "Football" to Raider00 regarding mobility of our "QB"s that "Net Scum" again tried to make it personal!!...

And sense when is "Speed" NOT a consideration when "Mobility" is being evaluated at any player position???...That's damn ignorant to even question!!!

PantyRaider...Don't Start No Bad You Won't Have No Bad!!!!/_

8:35 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Too funny...anything to do with Jethro = bad. I see you predicted a AFC WEST crown for the Raiders if Palmer reaches certain stat numbers.

When evaluating a QB, his running speed is not one of the top factors, unless you want TEBOW as your QB. A QB has to have quick feet, but his forty time isn't really a huge concern. Can he pick apart a defense is more of a concern, ya think?

Can he read coverages, can he make fast decisions and adjust during a play? Can he feel the heat and move up in the pocket at the right time, can he feel that blitz that he can't see from his blind side? These are the qualities, not 40 speed or how far he can jump from a standing position.... Not if he can throw the ball 70 yrds from his knees.... Pryor is a puppy dog when it comes to what is needed in an every down QB.

It's hilarious that you spread your "Pryor pimping" all over the 'net' until you have almost all Raider fans on these blogs gagging on it. He is 3rd string and no he isn't even close to Palmer....Pryor reminds me of you Jethro...a 3rd stringer who is way over hyped.

JONES

10:58 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

As far as posting some of your posts from another blog site....just updating your BS that contradicts all the BS you were spewing on here. Also, it shows a pattern, a pattern of sickness that when you get a hold of a site, you fill it with garbage to piss off others and throw the site into chaos, just like you did on this site.

Just to make it very clear, you are the cancer, you are the problem. Maybe it is best that you continue playing your 'multiple personalities' on that site....just leave while you might have a shred of dignity left. They are still confused by your BS, you can still get your kicks there, your days of that shit here, are OVER.

JONES

11:05 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

" I see you predicted a AFC WEST crown for the Raiders if Palmer reaches certain stat numbers."

Bull Fucken Shit you lying ass BITCH!!

But than your "LIAR" identity has already been very well founded as has your putrid little buddies!!!

LoL!!!...

"As far as posting some of your posts from another blog site..."

Busted Big Time!!

"pattern of sickness" is you Terrell Randal $$man/JONES -w- your ignorant "Shadows" and the 10,000 posts telling you to leave!!!...2 entire threads just dedicated to your removal and a very well respected Psychologist and his evaluations of your insanity!!!...Schizo -n- Bi-Poler Disorder!!!..Very well documented!!!

Should I post the threads here...Oh hell why the hell not sense your so damn ignorant as to carry that over here....

Read -n- Weep!!...

A QUICK STATEMENT ON THIS TEAM AND IT'S FANS

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/8/4/3220151/a-quick-statement-on-this-team-and-its-fans

VOTE - All in favor of Terrell Randall leaving now!

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/7/30/3204433/vote-all-in-favor-of-terrell-randall-troll-leave-now

PantyRaider...."151" -n- That's VOTEs While The Prof Is In The Threads!!!!/_

1:40 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Did you notice all the fun that's being made of you here??

How would the Raider Nation feel about a possible alternate uniform?

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/8/9/3231908/how-would-the-raider-nation-feel-about-a-possible-alternate-uniform

LoL!!...And yes I get to add to that "Bashin Party"!!!...Fuck with our colors/shield/history/glory and Al Davis and you earned every damn bit of it!!!

And don't think for a moment that I won't draw attention to you over here trying to justify your childish little pursuits!!!...Let it out so the whole world gets to see you swallow that fresh "Can-o-Worms"!!!

PantyRaider....And He Thinks He's "Cool-So Cool"!!!!/_

1:51 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

JETHRO said...


/////---If We Can Equal The Texans (3.5K Passing -n- 2.5K Rushing) We Should Take The AFCW...



"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 23, 2012 12:36 PM PDT

There it is...

I don't belong to that site, I just read all your comments and all your aliases, just like you did here, right Agent Orange? How many names did you have here? Want me to go over all that too?

JONES

9:34 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

1st Off Your A LIAR!!!

Your are "Terrell Randall $$man" which has already been established so no sense trying to deny it now after already condemning yourself Chuck!!!

Yes...I know who your are and I know what you do!!!

Changing your Avatar does nothing now...Too damn late!!!

2nd that thread is manufactured NOT as it appears on any thread!!!

And even if it were as you posted it says "IF"....."We Should" which is a damn far cry from being any Prediction/Forecast/Expectation or anything else like that!!!

I posted that if I had to project what this team could potentially be it would be 2.8K yds Rush -n- 4K yds pass which should win the West!!...I was than asked how I could pimp 425yds/game and explained that would be 18 games (2 post season) thus roughly 380yds/game...155yd Rush + 220yds Pass....NOT a prediction Chuck!!!

This is how a thread will appear if copy posted just to show what a damn phoney manufactured LIE that crap you posted is!!!
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I Didn't Yank Your Damn Chain!!...Go Bark That Crap At Something Else!!!

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Aug 10, 2012 10:18 PM ICT
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Note there would NOT be any double space nor (/////---) AssHole!!!

"I don't belong to that site, I just read all your comments"

LoL!!!....Than you know damn well that I have identified you as "JONES/Terrel Randal $$man" more than twice!!!...There's absolutely NO fucken way an antagonist punk "Poster Bitch" like you reads everything I post and doesn't chime in with animosity!!!....The 1st time I posted to you the come back was "Panties" just like it has been here!!!

PantyRaider....That's Yo Pussy!!!/_

10:04 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

I Think "CP3" Is Quite Capable Of 4K Yrd Seasons But NOT Under Knapp!!..Run Will Dominate!!!

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 24, 2012 2:33 AM ICT
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LoL!!..That's The Problem...I Don't Under Estimate His Desire To Run!!!

I think Reggie wants a good insurance policy at “RB” so one or 2 injuries won’t derail our season…This I would say is because everyone in the house knows we will run that “Pig” to death…

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 24, 2012 2:54 AM ICT
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If We Can Equal The Texans (3.5K Passing -n- 2.5K Rushing) We Should Take The AFCW...

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 24, 2012 2:36 AM ICT
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Hope Is Alive Faith Is Missing!!!...I Just need To See Something Before That Fath Returns...

But talking about it does open the mind to the possibilities and that’s a good thing…

I hope the hell Knapp proves me wrong and everyone is laughing at me…That would be so sweet!!!…The alternative is me posting “Told You So” and that would SUCK!!!

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 25, 2012 7:13 PM ICT
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I'm Usually The Optimist Also But It Feels Like We're Still A Season Away???

We definitely have the core when healthy but with a few pieces yet missing…

On the “O” @ “TE” and perhaps one @ “OL”…“RB” depth??

“D”…@ “DT”/“NT”….“LB”….“CB”???

I think with another season Reggie can find those final pieces to plug in…Everything is new now so I expect it to take some time to gel…Build up steam and be firing on all cylinders sometime around mid-season by which time we may be playing from behind??

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 25, 2012 1:16 PM ICT
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Preseason Could Change My Perspective Entirely??...Or Solidify It???

"Mediot" Basher / X-"Tebowphobe"!!!

by PantyRaider on Jul 28, 2012 1:01 PM ICT

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JONES Said:
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Why didn't you reveal the whole story Panties

You only used Criner’s first three yrs, why not his last 3? Ahhh, trying to decieve the Nation, eh? Let’s see the whole truth O.J.http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=82337&draftyear=2012&genpos=wr

I can only lead you to water, can’t force you to drink it.

$$.

$$man Has Spoken

by Terrell Randall on Jul 29, 2012 10:16 PM ICT
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Once again

As long as Al was alive our Raiders were never going to be relevant MAK. Regardless of who we drafted or brought in as FA’s he was going to continue to meddle. What other team’s owner hires all the assts and coordinators then hires the Head Coach? Determines the final 53? Drafts the player he wants despite who the head coach or scouts suggest? Rest assured neither wanted Russell or DHB.
What other owner forces the D.C. to run a defense WWI vets are familar with? Grossly overpays FA’s who can’t even play at all? He ran Marcus Allen, the greatest RB in Raider History off just because he was mad at him!! Traded him for goose necked Harvey Williams, are you kidding me? Didn’t even bother offering Nnamdi Aso, the one of the best DB’s in recent history a contract yet was willing to pay Antonio Cromartie, a baby making machine not worthy to carry Nam’s jockstrap more than the 4 yr 32 ML $ he took to stay in N.Y.? WTF !!! You think most of the Nationers are not thrilled Al is finally out of the way? Hell yeah, I sure as hell am!!

$$.

$$man Has Spoken

by Terrell Randall on Jul 30, 2012 4:57 AM ICT
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What?

How can you say that when you have witnessed dysfunction and inptness the last decade? If Al was still here Carson would not be for one, Routt would still be here, as would Kam Wimbley, Boss, Groves, Eugene, hell Sam Williams would even be a possibility. We would still be in cap hell, Mr. Bubbles would still be here waiting for Al to croak and making some of the most asinine decisions in Raider’s lore. the D would still be the most penalized unit in the NFL and Bubbles would still be making pedicure appts. We would have drafted 4 DB’s that run 4.2’s but can’t spell cover and once again we would have been the laughing stock of the NFL Draft and Combine 10 yrs running. Eventually Hue would fall victim to ProjectorGate II and chaos ensues once again. Billboards criticizing Al go up in Hollywood. The Nation finally gets fed up and Al moves team to Irwindale for sure this time.

$$.

$$man Has Spoken

by Terrell Randall on Jul 30, 2012 8:32 PM ICT
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Most of us don't remember the

era before there was a moonwalk panties but you once again you are spreading half truths and not comprehending my simple words. I stated we would be a Top 15 defense, when I say that I’m referring to as total D.
What you are bringing up is is the #2 pass D two yrs ago but why was that? Because we were putrid vs the run so teams simply ran the ball down our throat man, elementary. Same as all the other yrs the past decade, do you think the Nation is ignorant? We all witnessed it playa, which is why we all wondered why Al drafted a liquor loving kicker, fast cb’s that can’t cover worth a damn save for Aso and he ran him off, Hamburglers BF, a tatoo artist OT, and last and certainly least, a fast for nothing wr with bullet resistant hands.

$$

$$man Has Spoken

by Terrell Randall on Jul 30, 2012 12:31 AM ICT
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10:51 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

LUNATIC.....just because someone else is writing things about the Mr.Davis era...it is supposed to be me? What a clown.....I see you reposted the same quote I supplied about you that you DENIED you wrote....just more proof the Jethro is out of his/her/it's mind.

JONES

12:17 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

In The Context Of How/As It Was Wrote!!!

NO-ONE!!...NO-ONE is going to believe that you are there reading everything I post and NOT involved in the same type of disrupting/antagonizing behavior as you have been here!!!...Verbatim!!...Virtually Verbatim "Terrell Randall $$man" posted the same as what you have frequently posted here threw time...Repeatedly!!!

End of story!!!...Busted...Big time Busted!!!

PantyRaider....Gutted -n- Exposed!!!!/_

NO-ONE!!!!....

5:24 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

From Bay Area media–

"Former Raiders coach Jon Gruden attended a Raiders practice in Napa for the first time in 11 years, when he last coached the Raiders. He was here as part of his prepartion for broadcasting Monday night’s Raiders-Cowboys game."

That's because he was banned from the facility... and his photos removed from Ricky's at the request of the Raiders.

Boy, how times have changed.

5:51 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

LUNATIC... that guy is an obvious provocateur, a troll that goes to site to site just to piss people off and get a reaction....sounds just like you, hey agent orange? That guy is right up your alley, not mine.

JONES

7:18 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

NYR...seeing Gruden walking around the Raider practise, makes me glad he wasn't rehired as a HC. His time has passed, Allen is much like Gruden when he came to Oakland. Hungry, motivated, in charge. Have to wonder what was going through Gruden's mind as he was watching the Raiders practise. Wonder if it stirred his desire to coach again?

JONES

7:21 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

How bout' a new era @ Raider Take where the comments are a means for an intelligent debate & discussion about football related topics?

For those who want to continue to lower the bar or comment about those lowering the bar, do yourself a favor and do it on another site or better yet, not at all.

9:24 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

I hear you Jack, sorry I brought it there again, my bad. It's football from here on in.

JONES

9:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

YES!!...Your BAD!!

You brought it over posting as "The Disease"...Just another "Shadow" of which you have many!!!

PantyRaider...Your In Denial But Denial Won't Save You!!!/_

PS...I was into Football before that "Net Scum" invaded our site and than pimped his "Scum" activities here knowing full well what the reactions would be!!!...But for the "Reactions" is why he does what he always does!!!

4:56 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Who want's to wager that my boy Pryor gets his 1st "TD" Monday Night???....LoL!!!

The potential is very very high either by Air or by Ground with those legs against the 3rd team "Scrubs"!!!...Any Takers??

Or just "Talkers"!!!....LoL!!!

Raider00 is right....Pryor will shine when given his opportunity!!!

One preseason game don't make or break a "QB" but at least we will see/know something instead of just "Blind Speculations" based upon a perceived wasted 3rd rd pick!!

PantyRaider....Pryor Has Already Kicked Ass On 2 Posters here....Try For Repeats Anyone!!!/_

8:29 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Well said, Calico Jack. Here I was, getting back on the Take Horse, feeling minty, and then it was suddenly "just like old times," in the worst way possible.

My next take is going to tackle this subject. It will be up shortly.

10:20 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"RT"...

I have recommended actions by you before...You didn't feel it was necessary anymore...But as I warned once an "Infestation" is welcomed in as one of your own the ill effects will spread throughout your board and it most certainly has bringing out the worse in all of us...Now that's just history!!!

Once upon a time "Troll" who only spoke adversely and disruptive were deleted from your threads and as a "Family" of Raider Fans we were able to discuss our lives/wives/children/military life and Raider Football at will...None of which can be done now without all out assaults upon anything posted...

Would anyone dare to speak about his wife now???...Post a pic??/...I think NOT!!!

I have removed myself twice from this board as a result of the constant ignorant CRAP!!...Each time coming back to witness assaults upon my wife or what I do elsewhere!!!....This was that b2nd time and the record above is very damn clear!!!...That was done for NO other purpose but to cause disruption...Polarize and keep Polarized the posters here...It was a deceptive and unnecessary attempt to further take the joy out of our up coming season!!!...Exactly the same as it has been on that other board where I now spend my time!!!

PantyRaider...About Time!!!!/_

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