Sunday, October 25, 2020

Bucs Gameday Thread

 Well, a little late on the draw here again, but the Raiders are hanging in there on the edge of halftime. How cool would it be for the Raiders to take down Mahomes, Brees and Brady in the span of five games? That's still a distinct possibility heading into the second half. GO RAIDERS!


Blogger nyraider said...

The first half seemed so promising. The turning point, IMO, was the inability of the Raiders to score before the half, allowing the Bucs to get the ball back and score.

While things fell apart in the second half, there was still opportunity up until early in the 4th quarter. Agholor dropped a couple passes that really hurt the cause. Carr put both passes right in his hands. Agholor had been spectacular to that point, including a great catch in the first half.

What a shame. The game was actually a lot closer than the final score.

Can't help but wonder how much of a difference Brown and Abrams could have made. Also, D line was back to its previous rotation with Hurst, Collins, et al. Last game's rotation seemed to provide a spark in pass rush that just didn't happen today. Brady had far too much time.

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carr played great considering what a shambles the o line was, there was no running game. I think the offence will be fantastic once the line is healthy and they get Edwards back.

The D, though the secondary seems to be developing, I sure hope David Irving is the second coming of Richard Dent or 8-8 maybe in the cards.

6:54 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Defense is giving up over 30 points a game. The unofficial word Sunday is that the Raiders defense had one hit and no sacks on Tom Brady.

Maybe it's finally time to end the Paul Guenther experiment. It's not working. And I don't know if Marinelli is the answer either. While he's probably not calling plays, the defense actually has gotten worse since he arrived (and it's his position group not getting to the QB).

Something has to give on defense. There's still 10 games left this season and Raiders are in the hunt despite a bad defense.

Make a change!

4:54 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

NY, I think you said it best that Collins and Hurst have no push or drive to get pressure. Time to let them and Guenther go, especially with Wade Phillips available.

The O-Line did horrible with no practice this week, and Trent Brown and Abrams out hurt us. I felt the game should have been played tonight, but the NFL seemed to want to punish the Raiders for Trent Brown's bout with COVID and not following the rules. Bucs defense was all over Carr, who had another terrific game. I hate that he gets dinged for the interception that was deflected off Agohlor's hands, and the fumble call was a crock too; should have been an incomplete pass. I've never seen a fumble travel in the air that far.

Ruggs (2 catches 35 yards) and Jacobs (10 carries, 17 yards) disappeared; but the Bucs are the top defense against the rush; but I thought Jacobs would do better than what he did. Maybe it was the O-line being unprepared for the game. Who knows, but they stunk it up yesterday.

On to Cleveland, where they have to play better and get back into a groove. JUST WIN, BABY!

8:23 AM  
Blogger TheFreakingPope said...

A lot of good points here.

I felt the o-line looked like they hadn't practiced all week. Oh, wait.

Even little things like bumping into Carr or getting under his feet. That's personnel changes with little to no reps.

On paper, and I hate to even use such words, but on paper, we have talent on defense. I'm not sure Guenther is the right guy. I'm not saying we are stacked or have all the players we need, but there is enough there for a good coach to be creative and create problems for other teams week in and week out.

Looking forward to the rest of the schedule. We SHOULD be able to win in chunks. Maybe one big chunk?

10:45 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Nate, I think Wade Phillips wants to coach. He's coached some really good defenses, and I believe he would pressure the QB.

As for Cleveland, Baker Mayfield threw five TDs Sunday. Given the Raiders current defense, Mayfield might have an opportunity to match that.

This really sucks because Carr has played well this year. He shouldn't have to outscore every opponent we play. That's just not possible. At some point, someone else has to stand up and win a game for the Raiders.


Gruden showed some real balls faking the punt well inside Raiders territory. That was inspiring and usually leads to good things. But the Raiders just couldn't overcome depleted O-line and bad defense.

1:00 PM in Cleveland. Hope it doesn't friggin' snow!

2:42 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Some irony to consider. Jon Gruden (who just lost to the Tampa Bay Bucs) faces a Cleveland Browns offense led by Bill Callahan. Cleveland's offense is dynamic and Baker Mayfield threw 5 TDs last week.

Browns are 3 point favorites at home.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Browns and Raiders are in similar positions too. Both have terrible defenses. Gruden has claimed to be making radical adjustments to the defense, but unless there is some personnel changes at the coordinator position, or on the defensive line; I'm not sure what kind of radical adjustments he will make.
He claimed in yesterday's press conference that these changes will be with regard to scheme; but again, has not given any indication to what kind of changes. Are they going to a more 3-4 style? Are they getting rid of the Prevent-You-From-Winning defense (God, I hope so)? Are they going to blitz more? I guess we will see. Whatever they do, I hope it will be effective and give us a win.

2:30 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Raiders can't continue to fail so miserably on defense without changes. Otherwise, at some point Guenther will no longer own his failures, those will belong to Gruden.

IMO, Carr has done his job and shouldn't have to carry the weight of mistakes on defense by scoring on every possession. Something has to give.

Meanwhile, as I eluded above, let's hope the rivalry between Gruden and Callahan doesn't swing back to Callahan. I believe that would leave Raiders fans 0-2 in those situations.

10:17 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

This little stat is really hard to overlook, and has me worried...

"Forecast for 1 p.m. ET Sunday in Cleveland is for 43 degrees, showers and wind. Derek Carr's 68.9 rating in games played in temps below 50 degrees ranks 47th of 49 QBs since 2014 w/ 5+ starts in cold (ahead of Jeff Driskel, DeShone Kizer). #Raiders are 2-11 in those games"

I was at the Meadowlands last year in similar weather that's being forecast today in Cleveland. "Ugly" doesn't come close to describing that one (more like total incompetence).

So Carr will have to overcome another KC-like demon today in order to put together a competitive game that almost certainly will be high-scoring, i.e., unless the Browns offense and Raiders defense both break recent trends.

A lot is on the line. Raiders need a win to keep pace.


4:18 AM  

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