Sunday, October 04, 2020

Bills Gameday Thread

A little late on the draw here, the Raiders are already in a sizeable hole after one quarter. Come on, rise up, stay competitive. 

If we're 2-2 after today, it's going to be a bummer after such a promising start. GO RAIDERS!

27 Comments:

Blogger nyraider said...

What a disappointment. Minimal QB pressure and 30+ points a game isn't good enough. Next week won't be any easier.

Littleton and Collins have yet to really show up. Ferrell is a non-factor, and that's a tough pill to swallow when you consider other players available to the Raiders when they drafted Ferrell.

00 - I am wondering about ref calls after this one. Lame call for illegal formation on the would-be long TD pass, and the PF on Jacobs for lowering his head was totally bogus. Then there was a ridiculous non-call on holding against the Bills late in the game... a call might have helped the Raiders get back in it. Those are just the ones I remember.

Of course, Carr fumbling for the second week in a row didn't help the cause.

All in all, another game the Raiders helped the competition coast to victory.

I will say, my biggest surprise player so far this year is Nelson Agholor. He's been there. Renfrow had another solid game. Carr has options at WR.

6:37 PM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...


NYR...like I said, I've stopped watching NFL. Raiders will be screwed every turn by crooked NFL refs with flags.

Why would you expect this game, this season, to be any different ?

I do however follow this blog. it is my source for information. but the story is always the same.

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

NY, Agholor has been a decent surprise! After this loss, I am left wondering if Guenther needs to go. This is his third year as DC, and the defense has never really gotten off the ground. We had 2 TD's taken away from us in this game due to bone-headedness by the Raiders. I don't blame the refs for the calls they made on this one, it was just lame-duck football by the Raiders; and once again, mostly on defense. No pressure on the QB, couldn't stop the run, yard after the catch because of missed tackles, CB's giving 7-10 yards to the WRs, no adjustments to the game plan or what the opposing team is doing; just lame @$$ football.

We are about to be 2-3, and I'm not sure I will be watching next week against the Chefs. But something has to give. The Raiders cannot continue to spiral doing the same-ol-thing and expect different results. Carr did everything he could to put this team in a position to win, only for the defense to steal defeat out of the jaws of victory! I feel so bad for him because he gives Raider Nation everything, week in and week out! He has over 300 passing attempts without an INT! I just wish the rest of the Raiders played with his intensity so we could win.

1:22 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I said after last week's game that Guenther should be out. Like Carr said, enough is enough (when speaking about losing in general).

But Gruden also is to blame. He's far too conservative. I don't like the dink and dunk offense he runs. It looks good for a moment but it's usually not sustainable all the way down the field. When Carr finally throws a long ball good things usually happen, e.g., the TD to Agholor that got called back on an illegal formation penalty and the PI call on the bomb Carr threw toward the end of the game (over 40 yards on that play).

Conversely, running the ball on 4th and 2 was absolutely stuffed (Ed Oliver, whom the Raiders could have drafted instead of Farrell!), and the Bills were in the Raiders backfield with tackles for losses all day. When it's not there, do something else!

And kicking FGs on 4th and short yardage against a team that's scoring TDs every possession is a waste of time. If Raiders want to be an emerging team they have to take more chances. Playing conservative football is only a recipe to lose more games than they win.

Next game, Raiders are completely out of their league against the Chiefs. It will take a serious gut check and all hands effort to beat them. Defense thus far suggests that's not likely..., dare I say, impossible.

Like it or not, it's still unknown if Gruden has the chops to bring the Raiders back. Eventually, if things continue on the current path, he's got to feel pressure to part ways with Guenther. Many folks believe that's why Rod Marinelli was hired. We shall see.

2:41 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Just in, Gruden says he still has full confidence in Guenther. That could be a kiss of death. If we've learned anything from Gruden's return to the Raiders, when Gruden makes a declaration like that, it usually ends up being the opposite, beginning with his relationship with McKenzie.

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

After dismantling a strong team and an 0-4 start, the Texans fired O'Brien. Gruden should not be afraid to do the same with Guenther and promote Martinelli to DC.

2:35 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Over his past 4 games at Arrowhead, Derek Carr has thrown as many TDs to the Chiefs (pick 6s to Thornhill/Sorensen) as he has to the #Raiders (TD passes to Carrier/Cook)"

Hopefully, that changes this week to favor the team that actually pays his salary.

11:18 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Trent Brown and Ruggs practiced yesterday. Even though they were limited, that is an excellent sign. Derek needs to flip the script at Arrowhead. It has been his Achilles heal.

6:33 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Needs to be a team effort. Carr's stats are through the roof, just like last year, but it's ineffective under the present system. He gets yards but can't sustain drives when literally 20% to 25% of his passes don't even break the LOS. IMO, Gruden is more responsible for that than Carr. They need to throw the ball down field. Ruggs being back should make a difference..., I hope.

Can we draw a line in the sand wrt Guenther? Or should we assume he'll be allowed to fail for another year before Gruden takes a closer look at his defense?

9:24 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

#5 overall offense, #25 overall defense; says it all as to why we are not undefeated. I don't see how Guenther is still our DC when Wade Phillips is available right now.

12:33 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Nate, I think the stats are too generous. The offense isn't that good and, quite frankly, neither is the defense.

The dink and dunk offense is stat-friendly because raiders can clearly move the ball, but it doesn't tell the story. Raiders are way too conservative on offense. Last week, 9 of 44 passes never traveled as far as the line of scrimmage. That's remarkable.

Something to be said for ball-control offense but tough to push the ball all the way down the field enough times to cover the mistakes on defense. Then settling for FGs while your opponent scores TDs is painfully futile.

I'm afraid the Bills game was a precursor for what we should expect this week. Chiefs are double-digit favorites at home.

4:09 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

#5 overall offense, look it up. Chiefs are right there too. The Seahawks have the #1, Packers #2, Bills #3, Chiefs #4, Raiders #5. It is on NFL.com, hit team stats, then organize by "Rate". The Raiders are #24 overall against the rush, and are ranked #19 overall against the pass, #22 with team sacks (7).
The Chiefs Defense is ranked #31 overall against the pass and sacks(3), while #10 overall against the Rush.
This is a very winnable game for the Raiders if the defense can maintain discipline and get coverage sacks against Mahomes. They have to spy him with Abrams the entire game, and rely on the LBs and other DBs to cover the WRs and Kelce. They MUST STOP THE RUN! If this game becomes a shoot-out, I think we drop 2-3. If we can hold the Chiefs to 26 points like the Patriots did, then I think we can win this game.

7:23 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Put it this way, if you like blackjack and you understand statistics, you know that your best chance to beat the odds is to place all your gambling money on one bet... as opposed to making several small bets.

The Raiders are making small bets with their offense. It could be ranked #1 in total yards, doesn't mean they can or will score.

Chiefs will certainly play to their strength, i.e., stop the run and force the Raiders to pass. That's a blueprint that just worked for Pats and Bills in back-to-back games.

So the real question is, can Jon Gruden game plan and Derek Carr implement a passing offense to beat the Chiefs where they are weakest on defense?

This is a dynamic to the Raiders coaching and game planning that has been mostly missing since Gruden re-arrived. The game plan is usually stick to the basics and win the one-on-one battles. That sounds great and might work if the teams are evenly matched. But they're not. The only way for the Raiders to beat the Chiefs is to outsmart them and play mistake-free.

Maybe it boils down to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes vs Jon Gruden and Derek Carr.

Place your bet!

5:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This person NY is very negative and seems to not like our coach. I just read the Raider offense is averaging 28 points a game, no ints all while missing 3-4 starters. Seems the defense is the problem.

Phillip

6:14 AM  
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Raiders played o.k. but aren't doing a lot to look like a serious playoff team. They look good offensively, Carr is doing good;The problem is that they refuse to be different when it comes to wanting to win.

They need to spend on star players defensively. They seem to be too conservative. They need stars and to stop using hater (NFL and sports media) excuses to justify being mediocre in their front office. They will not sign expensive players and haven't proven they can win with their draft picks. They need to be bold like Al's front office; They should do a little bit of Al's way and maybe they would win again.

This guy can't get a tryout!?

Tyre Coleman, a guy who didn't get a chance to play-because NO team even gave him a tryout, could be one of the best players in football history!

Hobart William Smith Colleges 2011-'15
(may have scrimmaged in '16 at combine or college team)

last played 1/'15-3/15 all-star games

5 time Defensive player of the year (4 in College and 1 in high school).

3 time 1st team All-American (many All-American awards)

Patriot League rookie of the year and All-rookie team as a freshman in '11

14 time defensive player of the week

8 awards

team MVP 1, maybe more

6'1" 250 lbs.

51 career sacks

94.5 tfl

224 career tackles

13 forced fum.

46 career games

Even though this was a div.-III school that shouldn't have kept teams from asking about him. But they didn't-that's a big fall in the competition but still it seems like no team wanted to look at him.

Graduated from HWS and seems to be a positive guy.

Its been 5 years since he graduated from school BUT, i feel if you aren't too old its' not too late for stars (he may be that special kind of athlete that can work out and show . Can you look up this guys' career?

Aldon Smith made comeback after 5 years. 49ers' de Jeff Stover was working a job but played on their winning teams after being able to tryout,Rocky Blier made Steelers after coming from vietnam and Brian Banks missed playing for a college...only playing in his 20s', on a JC team, but he got tryouts with NFL teams later.





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