Sunday, December 10, 2017

Chiefs Gameday Thread

Every week lately has been a must-win situation, and now we've got another one on our hands.

I have to say I was disappointed to hear this from Bruce Irvin this week:

“Guys saw the Norton situation, and that kind of got guys fired up, I would say, and more focused. Once again, I think guys are looking at that situation and thinking, ‘Man, we can get fired, too.’ It’s not only coaches. It falls on the players, too. It was a wake-up call for us, and guys really started to hone in and get in their books. We’re practicing better, and it’s starting to translate on Sundays now."

So that's what it took to get fired up and focused when the division has been there for the taking since day one?

I still wonder about the culture of this locker room. In the end, we're back to the same old mantra we've been saying for so many years here: Prove it. 

14 Comments:

Blogger nyraider said...

Raiders took a huge step back today. This was a game they needed to win. Last I saw, the Chargers were rolling against the skins.

It just seems to me that the Raiders roll out the same uninspired offense every week, and it's not until late, with the game on the line, that Carr gets to throw beyond the LOS.

Early in games, teams can press Raider WRs and play 7 in the box, and it seems to work like a charm.

On the other side of the ball, Raider CBs play so far off their assignments that underneath passes of 6-8 yards are automatic. Funny thing is, even while playing deep coverage, the Raiders get burned on long passes.

You can argue that Derek Carr hasn't been the same since coming back from the back injury, maybe since he broke his leg last year. But the other common denominating is Todd Downing. That's where I'm putting my money. If he survives this offseason, I think we can probably expect more of the same next year.

This season, at least at the moment, looks to be about over. Chiefs flexed their muscles today against a weaker opponent, and the Chargers are probably the best in the division.

The Raiders had one good season out of the last 15, but showed they have no depth last year in the playoffs.

One order of business that I see as a must, is to sign Bowman to an extension. Raiders need to bridge the gap to a future MLB TBD. Nobody is the secondary should be safe.

2:30 PM  
Blogger International Raider fan said...

In the eyes of this international fan - The Raiders lost their winning formula with their pre-game discord in Washington D.C. earlier this year. That signified a division on a team that last year was starting to get it ‘together’ they believed in one another as a team and always had each-others back etc. Since that game it’s been a steady decline in ‘Priorities’ & ‘Football Focus’ and a return to the old ‘individual’ mantra or in the least a division of priorities depending on each player. This is supposed to be all about FOOTBALL! If a team is more concerned with politics or other concerns instead of FOOTBALL – What other results can they expect but losses to other teams that are better focused on the real task? FOOTBALL!!! There are many other contributing factors in this season’s decline, the change of OC, the decision to use ZB, injuries, coaching decisions and changes, the upcoming move to LV.... All of these contribute to this disappointing team of exceptional talent, but until the players focus is back on FOOTBALL – there is no way the Raiders will be able to compete with the better prepared and focused FOOTBALL teams/organizations..... The Raiders have the talent, they proved that last year. If they want to be champions, they must get their priorities in order.

2:31 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Interesting take. I also thought the Raiders players were, to be polite, unnecessarily distracted at the Washington game, which may have carried forward... it's definitely been impacting to the league as a whole.

Hard to explain why Cooper drops so many balls, or why Seth Roberts still can't figure out that he needs to secure the ball after catching it, to keep defenders from stripping it.

You're right IRFan, there are so many contributing factors. If I'm making the call on one change that I believe can make a difference, Todd Downing is done as O.C.

4:37 PM  
Anonymous Raider00 said...


RT...Bruce Irvins comments are laughable. They're "into the books".They're "focusing more". Really. Give me a break. Truth is, Raiders faced 2 mediocre teams, AND their backup Qb's. and Raiders barely won both games.

As soon as things got a little tough, on the road, in KC, cold December afternoon. Forget it. Raiders fold up as usual. No fight, no heart, totally lifeless performance.

Last year, Carr carried Raiders on his back for 12 wins. Once he got hurt, the house of cards Reggie built was exposed.

And must say, Amari Cooper has regressed so much this year, I don't know if Raiders can take chance and count on him as a starter next year.

5:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't let it bring you down its only castles burning.

There is always next year
Sandy

5:54 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

The theme of last year was "Building a Bully". We stepped up and got physical in our game, and aggressive. The more aggressive wins in this game, and we won. We are not as aggressive this year because we have stayed away from power football. We went more zone on both offense and defense this year. To the point that Irvin wasn't even rushing the QB, but playing OLB. Pagano steps in and Irvin is rushing the passer again, we are getting sacks, and playing better on defense because we became a little more aggressive. Now if we can get our CBs to be aggressive, we will improve.

Offensively, we see sparks when we run power plays, only to digress back to zone. Carr is being pressured more because the O-Line is forced to wait for the defenders to make a move, and then block; instead of hitting the defender at the snap, before they move. Zone blocking is the dumbest concept in football, ever! I agree that Downing needs to go, but I'm starting to agree that maybe Del Rio does too.

I'm angry today.

7:20 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Postgame take is up.

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