Not Another Penny
I don't think these embarrassing beatdowns are just about tanking. You can lose games while still showing positives and progress. It speaks to a team that is truly beaten in every sense of the word.
My new rallying cry is NOT ANOTHER PENNY. I'm not spending anything more than time (watching, blogging) on this team until Mark Davis really mends his ways. The Raider Nation is being disrespected by Mark Davis. If we believe in the mantra of "Pride and Poise," then where is our pride as fans to keep feeding at this trough of nonsense? Not another penny - no gear, no media products, no gifts, no tickets.
It sounds fine and noble for Mark Davis to say that he prefers to delegate the things he doesn't know, but if you've proven you don't know how to delegate, maybe something else needs to give. If you keep mismanaging what you do control while mis-delegating the rest, and if years of so-called effort continues to produce worse and worse results, then it must be followed by (1) shame and (2) then true gut-level, radical and self-aware change.
Yet where is the evidence of either?
posted by Raider Take at 11:06 AM
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If we collectively do this as a fan base, I think he will get the message. I still think Mark Davis' options are two-fold at this point:
1) Sale the team
2) Take the route of Colts' owner Carlie Irsay-Gordon, and learn about what you don't know to hold people accountable.
This is the ONLY way the Raiders change for the better.
Hear hear!
Nate,...Robert Kraft is far from a football expert, but somehow, he has rebuilt the Pats into a playoff team in short order. Out went Belichick and Brady, in came Vrabel, and Maye.
The key is finding the right people to run things, and then don't get in the way.
Mark Davis has not found the right combination of GM, head coach, and QB. You have to have it all going at the same time. I really think it's that simple.
Ghost, I agree with you. I've been thinking about this, i.e., that many owners around the NFL delegate as Kraft does, but the key is finding the right people. To RT's point, Mark Davis has done neither. He hasn't effectively delegated, nor has he found the right people.
We are caught in pie-in-the-sky fantasy in which Davis has a dream and next thing we know Gruden is back with a 10-year contract, or Josh McDaniels is going to make the Raiders into the Patriots, or Tom Brady is going to save the franchise because he's the GOAT.
John Spyteck was way over his head. Pete Carroll should have stayed retired, and Tom Brady prevented the Raiders from drafting the most obvious pick in decades.
There's no cohesion to anything the Raiders do (currently or previously). And shame on Pete Carroll. NOTHING Carroll and the Raiders have done as a team in game planning or play calling has been even remotely clever. The blueprint to beat the Raiders was laid out Week 1 and it never changed. That blows my mind. The current Raiders is the most myopic version we've ever witnessed.
Pathetic!
Not another penny!
I disagree. I think Mark found the right GM with McKenzie, and he let him go because Gruden did not want to answer to someone. Listen, I like Gruden, but I thought that was the wrong move at the time. I don't think Del Rio was the long-term answer at coach; but neither was Gruden. I don't think Tom Brady is the answer either.
I think Pete Carroll is gone. So the question becomes who replaces him?
I think Chris Shula, Joe Brady, Mike LaFleur, Kevin Patullo, Ejiro Evero are the top candidates for Head Coach, unless Mike Tomlin gets fired out of Pittsburgh.
NYR,....But now Mark Davis has given us the Tom Brady problem. Brady is neither a GM, head coach, or a QB,(anymore). He is a minority owner/advisor/broadcaster.
The looming shadow of Brady potentially can cast darkness over the Raiders franchise for years to come. What credible college, or pro coach will come to work in the Brady shadow ?
What hotshot, OC, or DC will come to Vegas to be in the Brady shadow ? What experienced front office people will come to Vegas ? The answer is, no one.
The only people Raiders can hire right now are, "friends of Brady". People that he recommends, and no one else.
That is why I said a few takes back, that it is critical for Mark Davis to have a end of the season press conference. A state of the Raiders, if you will.
At the conference Davis should announce he is cleaning house, and starting over. But most importantly, he should tell the Raider nation that for this moment forward, Tom Brady will be a SILENT, minority owner of the Raiders. He will have no input into football decisions such as hiring, or drafting, or free agent signings.
If Davis does not break free from Brady quickly, this shadow can loom over the Raiders like a curse.
Nate, I don't understand your devotion to McKenzie. Mark Davis went over McKenzie's head to hire Del Rio on his own. That's how good McKenzie was doing. Then Del Rio let Musgrave get away after overseeing the best offense in Raiders modern history. Then Mark Davis did it again and hired Gruden on his own. Gruden blew it all up.
Ghost, I think we are a few more iterations away from "the presser" which Davis says he's putting stops on Brady's involvement. The sad truth is it's highly unlikely these guys believe they are at fault.
And therein lies the problem. They are incapable of introspection, at least to the extent they can admit any wrongdoing.
They are "designed to fail."
NYR,....I had this funny feeling the past off season that Mark Davis hired Carroll, and Tom Brady hired his friend, Spyteck, and that Carroll wanted his old QB, Geno Smith in Vegas.
That all boats were going in different directions. That everyone made themselves happy, but the end result was the one big mess we watched all year.
The insanity that Carroll still has a job has me baffled... and worried. Anyone reading my rants this season knowns the "It's time to compete" mantra Carroll spun out bothered me from the start, now marred by the fact that the Raiders have done anything but. These guys misread the Raiders roster and their retooling of it in epic fashion. They shifted players out of their natural positions, asked them to play schemes which they were not adequately trained or experienced with, then made no adjustments when it didn't work. The mere idea that Thorton Jr has started at WR most of the season and has only 8 receptions on the year encapsulates Pete Carroll's entire time with the Raiders.
He's the wrong head coach! How does he still have a job?!
The Raiders remain off the rails until the current era is over. I have little faith in Spytek either. He's part of the problem, but there's no chance he will lose his job (which I'd be happier to give back to Telesco - an experienced GM).
A nightmarish season, beyond our worst fears.
NYR,....If Spytek stays, then Brady will keep having input. He can go over owner, Mark Davis' head, right to his good friend, GM Spytek. An awful situation MD has put the Raiders in. Spytek has to be fired.
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