Thursday, September 13, 2007

Invite from The Enemy

Our friend—enemy?—over at invited Raider Take to “prep” Broncos fans regarding the pulse of the Raiders and the Raider Nation in advance of Sunday’s game.

While I don’t presume to speak for the Raider Nation, I did answer his questions from my own perspective. He is now reciprocating, inviting us to ask him about the state of the Broncos and their fans.

His questions were fair enough. Following are a few examples:

Do you think the Raiders addressed the present and future of their quarterback situation with the additions of McCown, Culpepper and Russell this offseason? When do you expect to see your #1 overall pick on the field?

Last year's Oakland defense ranked among the highest in the league, particularly its pass defense. Naysayers will mention how the team didn't get passed against often because opponents would either have big leads or rely on their running game to lock a win. How would you respond to such comments?

Now the question is: What do we want to ask him?

As much as I despise ShanaRat and company, I’d like to keep this smart and civil, both in terms of the questions we pose, and any comments we make on The high road is always the best road.

We’re limited to four or five questions total, and I’ll choose the best from among any and all submitted in the comments section. Thanks in advance for your help!


Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Two questions.

The Broncos seemed like they spent a fortune during the free agency period. Has this raised any long term cap issues that you're aware of?

The Broncos seemed to suffer a deterioration of both their offensive and defensive lines in the preseason. There seemed to be a lot of concern about that in the media. Do you feel that the lines are now set, or do you feel they are going through a rebuilding process?

9:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's my two cents. Man it was hard being civil, but I agree high road is best.

After years of success utilizing the Zone Blocking technique, what are you hearing is the primary reason for moving to a more traditional power blocking scheme?

Even though they won the game against Buffalo and out played them, they appeared to struggle getting the ball into the end zone. What do feel is the main reason for this and do you see it as a long term problem?


9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my question for the Copycat "Bronco Take".
1. Why did you use Bronco Take insted of using somthing you might have thought up yourself? No....Just kidding.
2. Other than Hate....Do the Bronco fans even think the Raiders will be a factor in the AFC West this season Why or Why not?
3. Is it just me or is ShanaRat getting a bit fat or is his double chinn due to steroids.....Prescribed by his MD of course?

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's some serious questions for the bronco guy (I'll come out and say I think Shanahan is a very good football coach):
1. Does he think Shanahan remains the bronco's coach, in spite of his playoff futility since Elway, primarily because of how well he has done against Oakland? Do you think Shanahan's job would be in jeopardy if he ever missed the playoffs AND lost both games in a season to Oakland (tall order these days, I know)?
2. What exactly does Lombardi do for the Broncos? This one makes me nervous as Lombardi is reportedly working for free. (note to raider fans, the lions yanked up Frampton right before the season started and they definitly had our defense on the ropes early in the game...hmm)
3. What are his thoughts on Warren? Warren makes me nervous too. Why would they let us have him? And I think he stunck against the lions didn't he?
4. Winborne was a nice pick-up... does he feel nervous about the Broncos defense this year?

10:48 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

I have another one.

When are you guys planning to dump those CFL uniforms?

10:49 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

If we get together 250,000 Raider fans and chip in a dollar each, then donate that money to the Brains for Broncos Fans Foundation, will the Denver media put an end to their unrelenting editorials of Al Davis owing ShanaRat $250 g's?

Sorry-having trouble thinking of something nice... Still trying to erase the memory of that Raider-Hater website posted on the Broncos fan message board from earlier today (see my previous post)

10:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you feel about DJ Williams taking over for Al Wilson? Will it have a negative impact, both present & future on the effectiveness of the defense?


11:13 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...


We're thinking up questions, but are you sure that Bronco fans can read? Do they have schools and such in Colorado?

11:19 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Yes, I've seen their schools on South Park.

11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Take,

I did one of my best post on at the end of your last take. Oh well timing is everything.

Here's one.

Since Elam was having difficulty last Sunday do you feel his skills may be diminishing?


11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JanFran (It has been so long since I posted I don't remember my log in info)

1. By happenstance I will be in Denver this Sunday (family/personal reasons). What do you think would happen to me if I walked into a bar wearing a raider cap? Please be honest, would my life be in danger?

Other than that I like H's questions, esp the one about their offensive line.

11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JanFran, again

I'd also like to add:

How do they think the development of Jay Cutler is coming along? Do they think he started too soon?

11:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blanda - good ones!

Here are my questions:

1) We all know that horses are endowed with large reproductive organs. Is it possible that these reproductive organs can be used for reproductive penetration within the same animal? i.e., can the broncos (go) f#@k themselves?

2) Has the date been set for the unveiling of the new broncos logo?
That of Shannon Sharp's horse face replacing the current donkey on the helmet?

RT-kindly that the donko fan in advance for its reply.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I already know their response to your question on zone blocking. When they learned the Raiders were interested in running it they decided to to make the change. Reason? So they can complain about the low cut blocks and not be considered hipacrits.

Of coarse, when someone other than the Raiders complains, the attitude will be 'Something needs to change' and rules will be put into place to stop us. At the very least, refs won't let us get away with what the Donkos have been doing for ages.

Which brings to to another question for them, ahem (clearing throat):

How would you feel if your entire franchise & fanbase were suddenly, and forever considered to be a "Criminal Element" after the unfortunate tackle made by Domenik Hixon last Sunday?


12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I meant "Tackle made on" Hixon. I guess you can also say Hixon "hit" Everett just as well though. I think he may have angrilly lower his head with malice, with the intent to hurt someone. Just kidding. Too soon?


12:28 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

I'm glad you all took the high road ;)

Taking a break for a moment, and with regard to the Patriots, you'll remember that before all of this news broke, about two takes ago, I took special note of how self-righteous the average Patriots fan is in comparison to fans of other recent Super Bowl winners.

Here's something for them to chew on, courtesy of Dr. (Raider Hater) Z:

Sure, people cheat in sports. In baseball they steal signals. In football they bring in a guy for a week, someone who was just cut by the team they're going to play, pump him for information and let him go on Monday. They'll even plant spies at each other's practices.

But the things that make this Patriots flap so bothersome are the following:

• The arrogance of the organization, the smugness. We are the greatest, with the greatest coach, a genius, etc. What other team ever had its owner, Bob Kraft in this case, take the Super Bowl trophy overseas in the name of world peace. What'll he take this year, the videos of the defensive signals?

• The fact that this is nothing new. Stories are now coming out of the woodwork that cheating has been a normal modus operandi with this club.

• Good old street crime is one thing. It goes with the history of sports. But this video thing lifts it to a new level of electronic surveillance and into the realm of the hi-tech, white collar crime that we all hate. Put these guys on the business page, for God's sake. There's no place for them in sports.

Last year the Lions played the Patriots in Foxboro. At one point their coach, Rod Marinelli, phoned up to the press box, "There's a camera pointed right at our defensive coach making his calls. Is that allowed?" A Lions' employee called the NFL booth. No, it certainly was not. So the videotaper was stopped. Then after a while he began again. The same process was repeated and he was asked to stop again. Now that's dedication.

"You don't really know for sure," Marinelli said. "I mean you don't know whether he might be doing something for NFL Films or a coaches' show or whatever."

"At one point we had a good drive going against the Patriots," said one Lion who doesn't want his name involved in this mess, but was willing to talk about it. "Mike Martz really had 'em going. They were getting fouled up, lining up wrong, we were moving the ball. Then boom, the headset from the sidelines to the coaches' booth goes out.

"Next possession we were moving the ball again and the same thing happened. You know it only takes two or three plays to mess up a drive."

Matt Millen, the Lions' GM, was talking to Bengals' coach Marvin Lewis at the league meetings. He started telling him the story.

"Yeah, I know," Lewis said. "Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too."

12:35 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Brady is now being called into the mix as well. We know that after his contract expired, he was offered more than he resigned for with the Pats. Could it be that he just had a feeling that he wouldn't do as well on another team? Think of all those last minute drives (the Snow Job included) where he would take the snap, straighten up and immediately throw to a receiver who's cover man was coming on a blitz. No time to read, he just seemed to know.

There have also now been reports of the Pats miking their defensive players to steal line signals and audibles.

And I also remember how much crap they used to heap on the Raiders, accusing them of cheating. But that was for really stupid shit, like watering down certain portions of the home field; Guy punting balls with hellium in them instead of air (that was a real winner).

Frankly, even if only half of these charges are true, the entire team should be suspended from play for the season, and all games awarded to the other scheduled teams by forfeit. All draft choices should be eliminated for 2008. Belichick should be fired and banned.

12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent, research RT.
As far as I'm concerned the patties are worthless turds. The snow thing was the just the tip of the ice berg, pardon the pun. I always wondered how slow, immobile, unathletic-looking Tom Brady did so well. Every time Kerry Collins or whatever other big arm stiff we put back there looked so inept I always wondered hwo Tom Brady did it. Well, now I know. Just like he was nothing special at Michigan, he is nothing special. He simply has a great spy team working for him. He knows what the defensive play will be. What an advantage. Just like Brad "sorry ass" Johnson did in Superbowl 37. It helps to know what play you'll be facing.
I hope they pay big time... and then we can see how good the "great" patriot franchise really is.

12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing. If Belichick isn't suspended, then why bother. Since there is a history it should be considered as a second offence which would call for a one year suspension based on standards for the banned substance policy.

In fact, any coach involved should be suspened. Assistant coaches 4 games Head coach one year. And the team must function without them, no rent a coach.

This goes along with one of my pet peeves posted a few takes back. Why is it the offensive coordinator can communicate with the quarterback via radio but the defensive coordinator can't communicate with his signal caller the same way.

Old annonymous Patriot fan seems to have slowed way down. I wonder if he will let us know how good that crow taste.


1:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McLaren Racing in Formula 1 has been fined $100 million and had all their points taken away. An employee was caught with a 780 page spec on Ferrari's race cars.

This was an employee of the company, the spec wasn't even in the McLaren building!

The Patsies need to pay a price even higher than what this sport dished out for such a violation. They manipulated whatever they could in their own stadium to gain eevery advantage possible. Talk about home field advantage!

Good stuff RT & Blanda


1:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Brady, here's something from my post on the previous take.

After arriving home, I was watching a clip on Brady on either ESPN news or NFL Network. They were talking in glowing terms about how quick he reacted to the blitzes and how quick he could read the defenses and how fast he made decisions.

Well Duh… When you know what’s coming it’s pretty easy to react quickly

1:15 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...


I think the reason they don't have radio communications between the defense and DC is because only one player is allowed to have a headset, and there are too many substitutions on defense. In other words, if you hook up your MLB, even he comes out on some plays. But the QB is in on every offensive snap. And DBs can't do it because they come out to rest more than other players.

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then the green dot helps a lot. Make it happen NFL. Can we make the dot pink for the Donkos though? Just asking. Hey RT, ask the Donko fans how they'd feel about that.


1:56 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

The numbers are coming out on Russell's contract. Per PFT.

No option bonus, no signing bonus. This year he gets paid significantly less than Culpepper.

"Russell's people wanted to maximize the option bonus, because options bonuses are not subject to forfeiture in the event of a suspension, a holdout, or some other default. On this point, the agents completely caved."

So I guess maybe Al didn't lose it after all. Except that it worked out well for us, so it must be Kiffin's accomplishment.

The yearly numbers -

"Thus, Russell will make $2.975 million in 2007, $3.71875 million in 2008, $4.4625 million in 2009, $5.20625 million in 2010, $5.95 million in 2011, and $6.693 million in 2012. All guaranteed."

And according to PFT, the Raiders went a long way to protect themselves against salary cap issues.

Congratulations Al. Thanks, JaMarkus for getting this done.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jerry McD is reporting that McCown is running and throwing effectively in practice. So don't peg Culpepper as the starter just yet. Although Pepper was running with the 1st team so it sounds about 50/50.

I have a feeling this will be a weekly thing through this entire season. I can't wait until Russell is the unquestioned, capable starter and we can stop this crap.


2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are my serious questions

How do the fans view Jay Cutler and do they believe he is the one to get them back to the SB?

The LB corps went from top 5 to decimated in 1 season. Do you feel they done enough in that area to reload?

The DL has been rebuilt with plenty of youth. Do you see the line coming together anytime soon.

Who will be the guy to take the pressure off of Jevon Walker in the WR corps?

Is Dre Bly as good as he thinks he is?

2:19 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

Looks like Kiffin is running Psy Ops on the Broncos:

Question is, how effective will it be against the Broncos?

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, great job Al. We can easily make those numbers work and still field a good group around him.


2:22 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

RT....DonkeyTake is one of the sites I was posting on last week...I had some nice converstations with some and got "Smuck" from others...but I liked talking to them....and plan to continue tonight with some more of my humor....last week I posted a couple songs I wrote...

New Patriots:

According to Bushite Militants is a liar who give false evidance to the UN inorder to make war on the inferior and invade their countries and steel their oil...Spys upon it's citizans in the name of "Security" and takes away our rights in order to preserve "Liberty"....Sounds just like the "Patzy"s....

Quite differant than what was taught is school back in the 50's when I learded about our countries founders....Were they Patriots....NOT according to the were we lied to then or now....

NO action will be taken against the Patriots by excutiver order and a new contract for $$-Billions-$$ will now be awarded to them to do nothing....after all..."BushDaddy" was from "Mass" as I remember....they only went to Texas to steel the oil....and ever sense 911 the Patzy's have gotten special treatment won the "SB" and glorified by Bush....but no plains ever crashed in does that seem strange to you....what ever happened to the Jets....


2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


More confusion. NFL Network just reported McCowan is having trouble gripping the ball and looks unlikely for Sunday with hand and foot injuries.

Who do we believe?


2:27 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Looks like Kiff found some new wrinkles in "Hide the Quarterback" since last week.

JMac said that McCown was running and throwing without pain, then when the regular practice started, and the press was on their way out the door, Culpepper took command of the huddle. I have a feeling that McCown isn't hurt, and that Kif had decided to use Culpepper for this game since the end of preseason.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Thanks, gang! I now have enough questions for Bronco Talk, I'm going to send them along, and will post their answers when I get them. No offense intended if I didn't choose yours, I just selected those that I felt, collectively, gave us the best well-rounded inquiry into the state of the Broncos and their fans.

2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you feel about the firing of your D coordinator? He seemed to be doing well and he was dumped for reasons i never quite understood.


3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't one think that Culpepper would get a little tired of being the psuedo quarterback for the press.

Besides, on Monday McCowan had a cracked bone in his right index finger and a swolen ankle. Now today he's completely recovered.

I'm not totally buying it. McCowan may, in fact, wind up starting but something about all the conflicting reports doesn't pass the smell test.

Even though I was defending Kiffin last week you can carry something too far.


3:34 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

So the Raiders basically paid Russell all the money that remained from their allotted rookie pool and provided no option bonus (and a signing bonus was moot since it would have netted Russell less salary to base his future increases). Someone remind me why they waited til the second week of the regular season for that? Does anyone want to guess how many top rookies Metz and Lock can expect to get as clients next year?

I’m happy for Russell and certainly happy to have him on the team, but he could have used Dante Culpepper as his agent (pepper always represents himself) and received equal or better representation. And, he would have been in camp and preseason. What a shame!

3:36 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...


The way this looks to me is that Kiffin isn't committed to either QB. It makes sense since one or neither will be playing for us next year. It could be that Kiffin is planning to use the individual talents best suited to a particular game, and carry that on throughout the season unless one or the other gets "hot."

It was suggested by someone in the media, and the reasonableness surprised me (coming from the media), that Kiffin just doesn't want to waste time answering questions about "why this one over that one." Besides, if he's going game by game, the last thing he'd want to tell the oponent is "why this one over that one."

3:40 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...


My take on that has been that Metz and company were hoping that, as unpopular as Al is, that public opinion would carry them through to victory, and that the fans would pressure Al to buckle.

By the time they realized that the hold out was going to be far more damaging to their client than the Raiders, all they could do was make sure the money was there. But they caved on the terms. Al said from the beginning that he didn't have a problem with the money, it was the terms he didn't like.

3:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's one...

The bronkos went to a different defensive scheme this year where the D linemen are just "meat" or "blockers for the linebackers". Have the Donk fans seen a difference in the blitzing scheme? Wasn't their defensive coordinator with oakland some time in the past? If so how do they feel about that?

3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The QB guessing games are annoying, I'll give it that. But I don't think there is any funny business going on right now as far as hiding info or playing games with the Donkos.

I saw McCown limping around during the game, and I saw his hand hit his teammate's helmet on the last play, and he was in some genuine pain. He was trying to congratulate a few of his old friends and look 'tough' at the same time, trying not to make it too obvious that he'd just broken his finger. It must've been a strange experience.

Now assuming McCown has a legitamate injury and his status is questionable, warming up Culpepper with the 1st string is the obvious solution. And Kif just won't commit to one or the other because McCown is known to be a tough guy and he might be good enough to play depending on how he looks in the final days leading up to the game.

Personally I'm comfortable with both QB's. Daunte is the more exciting, Pro Bowl decorated guy so I understand all the hooplah. But McCown is no Ryan Leaf himself. He may have a lesser arm but so did Gannon. As fans we really should support him better as a whole. I heard Daunte chants during the 1st game already. Give the kid a chance. Ouch!! I just fell off my soap box! Ouch...Broken finger, throwing hand.


3:58 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Quite possibly, but clearly Russell was a victim of his own representation. Poor guy doesn’t know the business side of it. And I’m sure they convinced Russell and his family that they were handling it correctly.

Wonder how much pressure Kiffin will have (placed by himself, Al and others) to get Russell behind center? Particularly if things don’t go well this year with McCown and Culpepper, Russell may well get his chance in 2007. Kiffin said "when he's ready, he'll play," even suggesting it could be after the bye (however unlikely).

3:58 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Yeah, nyraider, I noticed that. It looks like they'll be going all out to get Russell ready by assigning coaches to work with him after hours.

There was one additional fly in Metz's ointment. Metz was worried that Bratton, leaving to Eddie D's agency (Bratton is Russell's good friend who brought Russell to Metz), might cause Russell to get twitchy and follow his friend. Apparently Metz told Russell and his family not to worry because Al was going to cave any minute now. Well, we see that Al didn't cave, and Metz and company were forced to sh*t or get off the toilet.

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A minute ago Schefter reported on Total Access regarding the Patriots.

Goodell has been trying to come up with a fitting punishment. Shefter is saying it is likely to involve MULTIPLE DRAFT PICKS, INLUDING THEIR 2008 FIRST ROUND PICK! HA!!!

Also Belly-Chick might get suspended and the Patsies might get fined (both likely, I would think).

I think I'd be happy with this, although I'd like to see more ideally.

Obviously they're pretty convinced that the cheating occured, if they're talking about details of the consequences.

Anyone see that punk ass Patsy fan? He pulled a Dave Chappelle!


4:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did this have to happen the week before the Patsies play the Dolts?!? They could've cheated and helped us first! Psycho

4:14 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Re the Russell negotiations...

One of the things that Russell said at his press conference is that people were saying, "hey, Atlanta needs a QB, see if you can get traded to them." Well, Russell was in Atlanta all during the holdout, because that's where his agents' office is. I doubt that Russell knows anybody in Atlanta other than his agents.

I'm wondering if it was Russell's agents the ran that one by him. "Hey, would you prefer playing for Atlanta? We could probably push Davis into trading your rights, and Atlanta would be more likely to accept the terms."

But Russell told them that he only wanted to play for the Raiders. He love it in Oakland. They asked him if his new house was an "all year" home. He said, "I live in Oakland now. I don't intend to go back for a long time."

4:18 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

I think Russell understands the importance of putting in his time and earning his pay. He appears, at least on the surface, to be dedicated to getting it done. There's no doubt he struggled from day one about not being with his team... who wouldn't. I'd give my left nut to be the waterboy. Hey, did they ever find a replacement for Run Run?... not that Run Run has an equal.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If all this is true, Russell needs to fire his agents. While in the end it he is going to do well, an agent is supposed to look out for their client, not themselves.

On the Atlanta thing. His last experience playing in Atlanta was the SEC Championship game and it wasn't a good time. He injured his shoulder on that stupid artifical turf. He probably does not want to play 9 games a year on that crap.

As you can tell I'm a big fan of artifical turf.

In any event, he made the right decision.


5:36 PM  
Blogger RaiderRealist said...

Pats will lose 1st round pick if they make the playoffs this year, 2nd & 3rd rounder if they don't. Belichick gets fined $500K, team is fined $250K. No suspension for Belichick. The loss of picks is good, but compare this to Formula 1 earlier today and the Patriots got off light IMO.

5:39 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


Was that true info....if so....that's if the patzy's lay down to save their #1 it will look like the cheating really helped them....if they play hard to show they were just a good team and win they loose their #1....either way they loose.....and "Belly-Chick" looses his paycheck this year....or maybe half of it....

Conspiricy Thories:.....I just love a good "Bad" plot....

2001 after 911 Bush wanted an American hero to hold up to the he contacted "Tag-a-Boo" and gave an excutive order to promote his favorate NFL team to champians saying "Your country needs you's a mater of national security" of course "Tag-a-Boo" obeyed (and got paid enough to retire).....

Belly-Chick was contacted by the "SecreatService" along with the CIA-n-FBI....he was asked..."See that satalite up there....well of course you don't but it see's you and knows everything you do even at times before you know....we will share this technology with you so you can spy on the other teams just like we spy on your niebors....garanteed to make you a winner" Belly-Chick" said..."I'm in"....

Next they made contact with Brady...."How would you like to go into politics....we can make you the "PosterChild" of the "New World Order" and when your football days are over you will gain office as a celibrated hero....Brady said..."I'm in"...

So the rest is history and the plot worked until that cold December "02" day in Boston...(no tea party in site)...the hated "Raiders of the DarkSide" who repesent every thing evil in the world were in town and the spy satalite could not crack their became evedent that the newly apointed heros would loose and not return to glory for a second again an executive order was given and "Tag-a-Boo" had the game the replay booth the oficials were ordered to reverse the call on the field...(tuck rule)...and the rest raider Fans is history....

So now we find out that Belly-Chick has had some remarkable technology but no one can figure out how they bacame so good with just look up in the shy see see nothing.....but it see's you.....that's your answer.....

PantyRaider....History From the DarkSide!!!!!

This message will self destruct in 9.8958362687634x10`100000000000000 it gone yet!!!

7:09 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

And that's the rest of the story. I like it!

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


this might be too late, but here is my donk question.

how does it feel to have the most hidious, ugly, uniforms in sports history ??

sorry, that's about as civil as i can be to donk fans.

7:40 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

The only silver lining I can find with the extended Russell holdout is that the Raiders hand was forced to sign Culpepper.

IMO, Culpepper is the perfect mentor for Russell in numerous ways: similar skill set, playing style, small southern town, country roots.

It also helps that Russell sincerely admires Culpepper who was his favorite QB as a young lad. The fact that Culpepper willing signed with the Raiders with the clear understanding of being a mentor for Russell is also another good sign.

I get the feeling that Culpepper who thrive in his Big Brother/Mentor role and that Russell's learning curve will be flattened with the aid of Culpepper.

My vision is for Culpepper to be our primary starter but that Kiffin will incorporate Russell in a series or two mid to late season similar to what some college teams do with their QBs. By the end of the season when the Raiders are out of the playoffs, I think Russell might get the chance to start the last few games.

We shall see ...

8:36 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


I hope to see Culpepper stay in OakTown as the starter for another year and than stay on as back-up after that....I think he has alot left in his tank like Lamonaka...Plunket...Hostetler...Gannon and that will give our future "QB" time to learn and perfect his game....if Culpepper plays well we do not need to rush "JRus" but as you said work him into games as the season goes along and do the same next year....

The only way I want him to start is if Culpepper fails but if that happens it will be because our team has alot of rebuilding left to the "OL" crumbles....

PantyRaider....Selling "QB" Futures!!!!!

9:07 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Great points, Calico Jack.

If y'all haven't seen PantyRaider's comments on the Q&A over at Bronco Talk, check them out, they're pretty funny.

9:46 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...


They are fun to talk to....but I have something I wrote and will post it tomorro....after they post your questions and we get some replies....


9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Broncos ceased being an NFL power the moment #7 retired and haven't won a playoff game since as I remember. Tell them we'll see them on the field of battle.

10:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the donks have won 1 playoff game, but that's all. But I really don't care as long as they don't win any more.

Good points Calico, but if that's the plan with Culpepper and Russell, and I'm not sayint it's not, then why isn't Culpepper starting now?

Unless things change drasitcally I really don't see Culpepper here after this season. He's looking for at least a four year starting gig. Right now that's not happening in Oakland.

If he does a Plunkett (wouldn't break my heart) then it's a whole different can of worms.

For Belichick, the fine is roughly 1/4th of his gross salary. In after tax money it's a pretty big hit. However, since the money will be going to charity he will probably get to claim the deduction.

If they win the Super Bowl, the fines and draft picks are a cost of doing business as I've said before. Colleges are hit much harder for lesser infractions. They should lose salary cap (scholarship money) and be banned from post season. The league does that one time and this kind of crap will stop.

Sorry, I keep repeating myself.

One thing for sure, we now know why Al Davis is so paranoid about practices and in game stuff. As I've always said, it's ok to be paranoid if someone is out to get you.

Quick point, withoug Cable (and the dog man of course) the Falcons only did 98 yards rushing as a team.


4:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This just in from the KC Star:

"Culpepper will be making his first regular-season start since Week 4 of the 2006 campaign, when the three-time Pro Bowl selection was still a member of the Miami Dolphins."

But should we believe anything from Chef Land.


5:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


KC has a good bunch of reporters at their paper. They call it like they see it. Not much bias. I read that article myself (since I live in KC)and I hope it's true. Even though I hate Chef fan, I have to admit that they know their football. They are not dumb fans (well, mostly). KC is more afraid of Culpepper than they are of McCown.
I've had many run ins with Chef fans over the years but I've figured out how to disarm an angry Chef fan. I just say "But we have one thing in common". "What's that?" "We both hate the Broncos more than anything!" I usually get high fives for that.

6:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Great job on the answers. You were eloquent, thorough and backed up your words with facts. Muel Talk is going to have to work extra hard to equal it.

Overall an A. For those who haven't had the chance go read it. I admit it was tough typing in the web address, but after it was over I found I survived without having an aneurysm due to the rise in my blood pressure.

Some of the mule fans responses were as expected. We are still the Anti-Christ. For me that's a good thing. I don't want them to like us.

By the way, I think we should change them from donkeys to mules. While donko rhymes well, at least donkeys are fertile while mules are sterile (the reproductive kind not the germ free clean type).


6:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


For me it doesn't get any better than the Chef - Raider rivalry. It's a hold over from the 60's and 70's. It ranks right in there with Pakcers-Bears, Alabama-Auburn, Ohio State-Michigan.

You must have a hard time surviving "Raider Hater Week".


6:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I can't even begin to tell you how bad Raider Hater week is/was. It's not so bad now that Shitenheimer is gone. He really stirred the city up.

6:56 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

H, holyroller:

My family is from KC. I hate going back there because they are all Chefs fans. But boy were they pissed when management let Gannon get away to us.

A very limp writed slap on the wrist to the Pats. If I were the Pats, I'd keep cheating.

8:25 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

This has got to be killing Whiner fans.

Since the Raiders have now taken over their ticket sales, they are now valued higher than the 49ers. To a 49er fan, where the only thing of any importance is how many pictures of dead presidents it costs, this has just got to be killing them.

8:30 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

This has got to be killing Whiner fans.

Since the Raiders have now taken over their ticket sales, they are now valued higher than the 49ers. To a 49er fan, where the only thing of any importance is how many pictures of dead presidents it costs, this has just got to be killing them.

8:30 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...


He said he's sorry for his mistake?! "Oops, I made a mistake and video taped opposing team's defensive signals, broadcast the imformation on unauthorized radio frequencies, lied on injury ports, cut off the headsets of visiting teams, and neglected to tell my waiter that I wanted the blue cheese dressing on the side."

The Patriots are being severely fined. $250,000.00! "Hey, Kraft! How much change can you find between the cushions of your sofa? Give it up!"

500K for Bilechick which will go to charity?! What? Gamblers anonymous? A quarter of Bilechick's anual salary which he'll write off as a charitable donation, and wind up paying no taxes.

A number 1 draft pick, just as long as it's essentially a number 2 draft pick. If it's not at the very bottom of the first round, then a 2nd round and a 3rd round.

Imagine, if you will, what would have happened if this had been the Raiders.

9:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That is exactly how it happened, you are 100% correct in regards to your conspiracy explanation!

I am so surprised that the league did not penalyzed their 5th. round pick as well!


9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, here's the main reason it's a slap on the wrist for the Patriots.

If they lose a first round draft choice, big deal. They have two first round choices having acquired the Whiners first round choice via trade.

If they make the playoffs and lose their first round choice and retain the 49's pick, the 49's choice is the better one.

This type of punishment is just a cost of doing business. Especially for people like Kraft who make more money from other business ventures than they do football.

Al Davis (let's not get started arguing again) is the only owner for whom their primary source of income is football.

BlandaRocked and RaiderCoachella,

My only complaint about the Autumn Wind is it doesn't have Ben Davidsons "touching down" and he calls it, of Len Dawson. It started one big melee.

For old anonymous it wasn't cheating. They outlawed spearing after that.



9:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are my two questions:

1. It appears that Rod Smith is losing a lot of his fearsome capabilities every year, and is becoming more of a liability to the team rather than a help. At what point do you say "enough is enough" and find a replacement?

2. It appears that with the new defense in place, and the new acquired free agents brought in, that their is a learning curve on the team; especially with a young QB. Do the fans and team in Denver consider this a "building" year?

9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask them how it feels to have stolen John Elway from us.

9:26 PM  

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