Thursday, April 28, 2022

Draft Night Thread

Well, the bad news is that we don't have a first round pick. The good news is that we won't blow a first round pick on an obvious overreach.

There's some buzz lacking from this year's draft, but it'll still be entertaining. Keep an eye on our AFC West foes, as the Chargers are right in the middle, and the Chiefs have two late first rounders.

Bang it here for your draft night takes.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

My mock draft:

1. NY Jets from Jaguars- Adian Hutchinson, de, Michigan U.

2. Detroit- Kayvon Thibodeaux ,de, Oregon U.

3. Houston- Ikem Ekwonu, ot, N.C. State

4. Jacksonville from NYJ- Evan Neal, OT, Alabama

5. NYG- Charles Cross, ot, Miss. State

6. Baltimore from Panthers- Jermaine Johnson, de, FSU

7. Saints from NYG- Garrett Wilson, wr, OSU

8. Atlanta- Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington U.

9. Seattle- Devonte Wyatt, dl, Georgia

10. NYJ- Jameson Williams, wr, Alabama

11. Washington- Drake London, wr, USC

12. Minnesota- Travon Walker, de, Georgia

13. Houston- Derek Stingley Jr., cb, LSU

14. Carolina from Ravens- Kenyon Green, G, Texas A&M

15. Tampa Bay from Eagles- Kyle Hamilton, s, Notre Dame

16. NYG from Saints- Devin Lloyd, LB,Utah

17. LAC- Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa

18. Tennesse from Eagles- Jordan Davis, dt, Georgia

19. New Orleans- Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa

20. Pittsburgh- Malik Willis, qb, Liberty

21. New England- David Ojobe, de-olb, Michigan

22. Green Bay from Raiders- Tyler Smith, ot, Tulsa - Daxton Hill,s, Georgia or Arnold Ebiketie,de, Penn State or Fla cb Kaiir Elam, cb, Florida

23. Arizona- Zion Johnson, ol, Boston College

24. Dallas- George Karlaftis, EDGE, Purdue

25. Buffalo- Chris Olive , wr, OSU

26. Philly from Titans- Jahan Dotson, wr, Penn St.

27. Philly from Bucs- Logan Hall, Dl, Houston U.

28. Green Bay- Traylon Burks, wr, Arkansas

29. Kansas City from 49ers- Boye Mafe, de, Penn State

30. Kansas City- Christian Watson, wr, N. Dakota State

31. Cincinnati- Andrew Booth, cb, Clemson

32. Detroit from Rams- Daxton Hill, s, Michigan U., or Trey McBride, te, Colorado State

7:43 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Indeed, trading for Adams definitely trumps missing on overreach first and second round picks which had become MO for past Raiders' regimes. Adams is arguably the best player available in 2022 and gives the Raiders immediate legitimacy at the WR position. They could still use another starting WR but having Adams, Waller and Renfrow is as good as it gets, IMO.

Hopefully, the Zeigler/McDaniels team has the chops to find impact players in middle to late rounds. The concept of "best available player" gets more and more cloudy as the draft progresses but, again, hopefully, that's still the plan.

6:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No option on 3, 1st round picks. Throw in the Ruggs situation.That really stings. If Gruden/Mayock would have hit on those picks, this team would be in contention for a Super Bowl this year. Leatherwood still has a chance to do something, he seems to look to be in better shape and will be better prepared mentally for what he needs to do this year.

11:58 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

My thoughts on the draft so far. I thought the first round was pretty lackluster. Heavy focus on O and D Line, which isn't bad, but overall, the talent seemed to lack the pop that was seen in other drafts. Some of the big names, however, Sauce Gardner, Chris Olave and the story of the first round was seeing a slide down the draft for the Steelers to get their QB in Pickett. Easily could have gone to the Saints, twice, and Dennis Allen continues to show why he is not a HC. Same with the Texans, Falcons, Bears, Lions, and Seahawks. Let's not get started on Malik Willis dropping to the third round to the Titans, a team that didn't really need a QB, unless they are not happy with Tannebaum.
Dylan Parham was a great selection for the Raiders, especially trading down. With the way teams went after the O-Line, there was no choice but to grab him here. I had him in the 5th (easily could have gone in the 4th too), but O-Line and D-line were the apparent focus, so they got the steal of the draft in that position.
There are a lot of great picks still on the board too. A lot of focus now shifting to DB. We have 3 picks in the 5th (with trade from Tennessee), so here are my thoughts on who to watch for the Raiders:
4th Rnd:
Damone Clark (LB, LSU)
5th Rnd (3 picks):
Coby Bryant (CB, Cincy)
Tycen Anderson (S, Toledo)
Spencer Buford (G, UTSA)
7th Rnd:
Otito Ogbonnia (DT, UCLA)

7:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No swings for home runs, steady wins the race. Looks like a decent haul of UDFA's. Still need a solid RT and another DB. Will be interesting to see how the rest of the cap space plays out.

There looks to be a different way in how this draft was conducted compared to Gruden's.

Going to be a heck of a season.

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Absolutely loaded in the UDFA's, still a load of talent to be had that was not drafted. This draft was heavily focused on the O-lines and D-lines. Offensively, here are some names to watch in UDFA regardless of where they sign:
QB - Carson Strong, Dustin Crum, and Jack Coan
RB - Abram Smith (Baylor), CJ Verdell (Oregon), Jerrion Ealy (Miss), TJ Pledger (Utah)
OG - Josh Sills (OK St), William Dunkle (San Diego St), Josh Rivas (Kansas)
OT - Bamidele Olaseni (Utah), Dare Rosenthal (Kentucky), Kellen Diesch (AZ St)
WR - Makai Polk (Miss St), Kevin Austin Jr (Notre Dame), Josh Johnson (Tulsa), Reggie Roberson Jr (SMU)
TE - Chase Allen (Iowa St), Jalen Wydermyer (TX A&M), Austin Allen (Nebraska)

DT/NT - Jayden Peevy (TX A&M), Haskel Garrett (Ohio St), Marquan McCall (Kentucky), Dennis Johnson (Grand Valley)
DE/EDGE - Christopher Allen (Bama), Tyree Johnson (TX A&M), Inoke Moala (Indiana St), Ryder Anderson (Indiana)
CB - Joshua Jobe (Bama), Dallis Flowers (Pittsburgh St, Kansas), Sam Webb (Missouri Western), Leonard Johnson (Duke), Shaun Jolly (Appalachian St)
Safety - Nolan Turner (Clemson), Verone McKinley (Oregon), Juanyeh Thomas (GT), Yusut Corker (Kentucky), Tristan McCollum (Sam Houston St), Qwynterrio Cole (Louisville), Smoke Monday (Auburn), D'Anthony Bell (West FL)
LB - JoJo Doman (Nebraska), Zakoby McClain (Auburn), Jake Hansen (Illinois), Jake Hummel (Iowa St), Nephi Sewell (Utah), Ellis Brooks (Penn St), Mike Brown (Miami OH)

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

UDFA signings:
Bamidele Olaseni (OT, Utah), Zach VanValkenburg (EDGE, Iowa), Sam Webb (MO Western), are signing with the Raiders according to Tom Pelissero. Darien Butler (LB, AZ St) is with the Raiders according to Mike Garafolo.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

13 UDFA players signed by the Raiders:
Tre Turner (WR, Virginia Tech)
Sam Webb (CB, MO Western)
Chase Garbers (QB, Cal)
Isaiah Pola-Mao (S, USC)
Bamidele Olaseni (OT, Utah)
Zach VanValkenburg (EDGE/LB, Iowa)
Darien Butler (LB, AZ St)
Justin Hall (WR, Ball St)
Cole Fotheringham (TE, Utah)
Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa (DE, Notre Dame)
Qwynnterrio Cole (DB, Louisville)
Bryce Cosby (S, Ball St)
Lukas Masterson (LB, Wake Forest)

9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad Raiders stayed at no. 3 with the money they're spending on players(Adams) they could use lower salary spending on vets so not spending on higher draft picks this year may not be a bad idea but I did support Al's system to spend on draft picks/ star vets.

They can score but can they play defense?

It looked like a sure playoff move to make these trades and FA signings until KC did their usual Al-like moves and reloaded- They look awesome!

The Raiders once again are as dull and boring in UDFA. They refuse to look at exciting players. The Pats' guys did good but there are fast wrs' and cbs' from college they could be signing.

I see media once again is supporting Raiders' draft picks. Adams' trade helps but media always supports them unless they are just making terrible decisions.

with Morreau, Waller, Renfroe and Adams the offense will look great but if they are copying the Pats' D they are depending on DT/ NGs' to control offenses too much. They refuse to bring speed to the D not too much but some more would help- they didn't do much for the LBs'.

Raidernation will support these guys again just like Gruden/ mayock and Reggie.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

My favorite QB's in the draft were Carson Strong (Nevada) and Dustin Crum (Kent St). Both have signed with teams as UDFA's. Strong signed with Philly, and Crum with Kansas City. I hate that Crum signed with KC, but I am going to watch both, and see how they develop, and if they end up starting somewhere. I seriously though Malik Willis or Kenny Pickett would end up in Houston, I could have also seen them signing Crum or Strong. The fact they passed up a QB is curious, it is almost as if the owner does not want the team to succeed. Crazy.

1:36 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Definitely unspectacular draft, but potentially effective.

Pundits suggested the Raiders kept to their promise to draft best available players. That meant taking two DTs in a row, although, each DT specializes in different ways.

My thought on taking these guys is that it follows a pattern of the Patriots' placing great emphasis on the DT position. Patriots have had some great DTs, currently, Francis, but recently anchored by Vince Wilfork. Again, I believe this is a position of great emphasis for the Patriots, and now for the Raiders, who drafted two and signed 2-3 during free agency.

RB was not a position I expected them to emphasize, let alone draft two. The second pick was an absolute waste, IMO, and certainly didn't meet the threshold of BAP. Raiders did better with UDFAs.

All in all, it looked like a decent and measured draft for the Raiders, which got value from the middle back, then were very aggressive signing UDFAs.

2:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa! Wait a minute! Raider Nate,

I thought the Pats boys couldn't do no wrong? and I thought the OWNER was a genius?

If THEY decided Carr was their QB of the future why are you saying the OWNER seems like he wants the team to lose?

I thought Carr was a good pick he loves the Raiders and Raidernation loves him. But the Raiders had a QB they could've made the starter OR, signed for a playoff run as part time starter. I think Carr is a good QB but Mariota would've given teams big problems.

But you went with the NFL's idea of a QB. The Pats boys want their guy in the future and went with the name guy(Carr) and the franchise QB system instead of take or use the bust top draft pick that started to look good and electrifying.

They have a chance to show us the Pat way of high character over athletics, size and speed because the Raiders lack speed can they win without it?

Remember how the media claimed Al's love for speed helped ruin team? You supported that but funny thing is Andy Reid seems fine with looking for speed and he beats the Raiders with it.

The Pats' way proved you don't need it but Al proved it helps and K.C. proved it too. I like Carr but if Mariota was QB I feel this team would be exciting. Raidernation supports NFL ideas but sometimes a bust can learn to follow a system from staff or maybe or maybe just be a little better or do some things better in camp to help team win.

7:09 PM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Anon said, "Whoa! Wait a minute! Raider Nate,

I thought the Pats boys couldn't do no wrong? and I thought the OWNER was a genius?"

Why are you calling me out? I didn't say anything about the Pats, or that Zeigler or McDaniels could do no wrong. You are targeting the wrong guy.

The last time I posted, the Raiders have signed another UDFA, Sincere McCormick (RB, UTSA). Only 3 of these 14 players have received guaranteed monies:
Trea Turner (WR, Virginia)
Darien Butler (LB, AZ St)
Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa (DT/DE, Notre Dame)

Also, UDFA Isaiah Pola-Mao (S, USC) is Troy Polamoau's nephew, didn't know that until recently.

Drafting the RB's they have done, and the RB's they have brought in through FA; one must remember that they did not pick up Josh Jacob's 5th year option. He is a free agent after this season. He has also battled injury every season he has been here. But listening to Clay Baker and Hondo Carpenter on Raider Nation Radio yesterday, they were talking about how Jon Gruden's plays the last 2 years have been extremely predictable, especially running the ball. Hondo said the opposing teams were consistently calling the plays at the line. Gruden was way over his head, and everyone knew it. Part of Josh's injuries could be do this fact. Gruden did more to sabotage the Raiders than help, at every level. The more and more that comes out about him, the more I believe it was Mark Davis who leaked the emails. Mark, as we have seen, is very clever and systematic; more so than what he has let on these last few years.

I am excited for the season, I truly feel the Raiders have a legitimate chance of winning this year. Hired great coaches/front office, hired great players (C. Jones, D. Adams, DC, D Waller, H Renfro, M Crosby, D Perryman), there is only one thing left; JUST WIN, BABY!

6:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another attack at the Raiders, who is behind it?

A spurned employee lashing out? Another attempt by the league to show the Raiders are not competent? The employee has been with the Raiders for 18 years, he says he filed many complaints with Mark and nothing was done about it. He says he then filed with the league and was promptly fired. No other allegations from any other sources on the matter.

Is this an attempt to oust Mark as owner? It worked with Gruden, they used emails that no one has ever seen, to expel Gruden from ever coaching in the NFL again. No trial, no ability for recourse. All it takes, with Raiders, is a bad press release and it's done. All the karens will be jumping up and down wanting Mark gone because someone said he did something. This is where the world has gone and IMO, this is another attempt by the NFL to oust Mark.

This is also another attempt at ruining the teams chances before the season even starts. Antonio Brown incident ruined that year, Gruden being banished, they still made the playoffs. Now, they are going after Mark.

9:22 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Thankfully, Mariota is gone. You can follow him with the Falcons and see he does, which I'd guess will be no better than he has historically. The one game he played for the Raiders he threw a critical INT when the Raiders needed a score. It cost them the game.

Not sure how else to say it, but you better get used to hearing a little praise going the Patriot way with Zeigler and McDaniels now with the Raiders. They were instrumental with the Pats. What, the Pats don't deserve it after like eight Super Bowls?

This latest Raiders' scandal has a whiff of me-too, but it's hard to believe Davis was involved. If it's merely a "tough work environment", quit! Or speak directly to Davis about it. This seems fishy.

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arapahoe Sheriff announced that Broncos’ WR Jerry Jeudy is “being held at the Arapahoe Co jail on charges of 2nd degree criminal tampering w/a domestic violence enhancer,

6:16 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Byran Edwards being traded to Falcons.

I have to wonder if the level of turnover in the Raiders roster is what Mark Davis meant when he said this is not going to be a rebuild.

I get that new GM and coaches want who they want, but the Raiders have almost experienced a Gruden-esk Year 1 level of turnover.

Edwards has shown flashes and is clearly still on the upside of his career (only going to get better). Not sure the issues he's had are entirely his fault.

Not a huge deal. More of an observation.

Carr has Adams, Renfrow and Waller, plus Jacobs and Drake and still ample depth at WR and RB. That's more than most QBs have.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Edwards was not running proper routes, Carr was disappointed more than a few times when he would check on Edwards and he wouldn't be where is was supposed to be. Then, he would come back to the huddle and you could see Carr telling him what he did wrong. It's why Carr wouldn't throw it to him very often. Carr couldn't trust him and I am sure it's a reason why he was traded. Not a big loss and have signed as good or better to take his spot. 2020 draft was a complete crap show. Gruden did some good things, but he also pooped the bed a few times too.

1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NY Times is taking another run at the Raiders. The Times are obviously linked to Goodell and he is using them to destroy the Raider legacy.

1st, the Times made a run at Gruden and he was forced to quit. Now, they are taking a run at Mark and they will use the same tactics to oust Mark. The discredit routine is in full swing and it's probably has something to do with Gruden's lawsuit as well.

NFL is bullying the Raiders and probably won't stop until they get what they want. If it happens, there will be a lot of Raider fans who turn their back on the league and will not support it anymore. I'm sure fans from other teams will have to really think if they want to support a league that is so top heavy and controlling all aspects.

The NFL is a joke, their refs are criminal, the CEO is rogue and it is a big corporation that has no soul. Pro sports is nothing more than pro wrestling.

2:42 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Been reading more about this kid Thayer Munford. If he can advance his progression from college into the pros, he will quickly replace Parker as swing tackle, and maybe even eventually find a home at RT.

Of course, it's early and that's wishful thinking. The sad truth is, Parker has been a huge disappointment. The dude has size and athleticism, but he can't match up against NFL edge players... which is a huge liability in the AFC West. Think for a second, Bosa and Mack on the same team. That's scary.

Even after free agency and the draft, I assume that only Kolton Miller is secure. All four other spots on the line are subject to competition and it's anybody's guess. Easy to assume new management and coaching are not going to play favorites. This will be an open competition.

Let the best players step up.

2:41 PM  

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