Sunday, September 12, 2010

One Postgame Take

The exorcism of JaMarcus Russell was supposed to herald a new era on offense. Alas, the new era is on indefinite hold after today's bumbling performance against the Titans.

The numbers just don't reveal how inept our offense looked at times today, particularly in the first half. The pressure on Campbell was hellacious. Does that let our receivers off the hook for their collective invisibility? Thankfully, McFadden and Miller acted as a relief valve that allowed us to occasionally move the ball downfield. Unfortunately, many of our strides were made long after the game was decided, at a point when the Titans looked disinterested.

The overall upside is that McFadden looked sharp, Miller did his part and Campbell used his legs several times to avoid added trouble. I get the feeling this won't be the last time he has to run for his life.

Before this game, I said that offensive line and wide receiver were two big areas of concern. Well, I remain concerned.

If you think about it, what is our offense, in terms of personnel? It's basically the same as last year, minus Justin Fargas, with a little more inexperience along the line, and a different quarterback who may or may not have an edge on Gradkowski in the ability department. Calibrate your expectations accordingly.


As for our defense, well, it was deja vu all over again as well. Yes, I know that Chris Johnson is a beast. But this was a time to make a statement against the league's best, and we didn't. Not only did we give up more than 200 total rushing yards again, we got gashed by the all-too-familiar big run, a 76-yarder by Johnson for a touchdown.

That wasn't a run defense today. It was a rerun defense.

I also question the call to kick a field goal on 4th and 1 while down 24-3 right before the end of the half. I guess you have to get points where you can get them at that juncture. Still, it just struck me as unecessarily timid.

Anyhow, here we are at 0-1. The crystal ball just got cloudier, and the climb to .500 just got a little harder. Our record should be 1-1 after next week's game against the lowly Rams. But "should" has become a perilous word in the Nation.

156 Comments:

Anonymous JONES said...

Campbell was a reject from a losing team, of course he isn't that good. Throw him behind that O-line and he looked just like Russell, only skinnier.

Raiders play dumb ball, it's Al's same ole same ole. Crappy defensive scheme, same ole same ole. When will the "crew" come out and admit that all their bravado of a "new" defense was BS? Probably never. 17BobTrey-O, I believe I saw it a few times out there.

It's UNDENIABLE, no sane person would even try to refute it. But of course, we are talking to the "crew", so I'm sure they will still deny it.

Will this be the year that Al FINALLY goes back to the Gruden formula? Where he backs off and allows a HC to coach? or will he continue with the reaching for the past and hiring yes men he can clown around.

It's is so fucking old watching the same shit , year in, year out. Same schemes that don't work, same personel moves that have Al's ego written all over it despite the TEAM. Nothing will change as long as there is a clown "crew" keeping those old dreams alive. Whispering in Al's ear that "we can still do it like the 70's boss". And Al goes on about players from the 60's.

Can the Raiders ever move ahead with evolution? Or will they stay a dinosaur that people can point at like a Homo Erectus and say "that's how they USED to play football"? It's going to turn into historical, as in never forgotten, failure and will ruin a part of Al's legacy. Stop Al, please sit down, we want a new show in town, this one died many moons ago, give it up.

JONES

3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still waiting for the team to break .500 When was the last time? 2003? I continue to wait before I hope... how much longer?

Storminator

3:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Raiders were last over .500 on September 26th, 2004, when they were 2-1. So they have not been over .500 since week 3 of the 2004 season.


Sarasota Raider

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And by the way, I agree completely with Jones. Davis needs to get the hell out of dodge. It is time for someone else to call the shots for the Oakland Raiders. I am more than ready for that. The time has come.


Sarasota Raider

4:07 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

TV coverage showed Davis in a stadium box watching the game. He looked like he'd just been mugged (and I'm not just talking about the game score). It's really tough to see him so frail. Yet, I can't help but wonder how much longer this can go on. How can bringing in qualified help be the wrong thing to do?

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Raiders have now lost 8 straight season openers. We are well on our way to an 8th straight season of double digit losses. The losing continues. It won't be long until year 10 rolls around. If Davis is still calling the shots by then, the losing will continue.



Sarasota Raider

4:37 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

It isn't the wrong thing to do, Al should hire a qualified Op manager as soon as possible and Al needs to step down IMMEDIATELY after the hire. Those who deny this fact are Raider management and the "crew". Everyone else in the world knows it, have known it and will never believe otherwise.

Can't wait to hear "H" and his buddies explain this away. They have denied that Al's way doesn't work for DECADES, the one time the Raiders had success in 20 some odd years, they mock it. They mock it because it wasn't Al's way. This way of thinking (the crew) is archaic and will never be successful in the NFL. Time for more billboards.

JONES

5:01 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

RT,

What, no clown car ??

I thought this game was deserving of clown car status.

Send in the clowns. There ought to be clowns.

Don't bother, they're here.

5:08 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

Not sure I can put any of this on the WR's.. they dropped some balls but JaMarcus Campbell kept throwing everything high and behind his receivers... at least until the game was out of hand and he relaxed and pretended to be a NFL QB. He was indecisive when under pressure and hurried when not (JaMarcus). He stared down his receivers the entire time (JaMarcus). He had absolutely no touch on any of his passes (JaMarcus). He did do some good things with his feet (Not JaMarcus) but other than that I dont see much of an upgrade over JaMarcus. Why Gradkowski is sitting the bench only leads credence to the ADDSers mantra that AD is calling the shots instead of the coaches. Yes it hurts to admit that.

Oh, and I counted 3 prevent defenses as opposed to ZERO blitzes. If they blitzed even once I didn't notice it.

Guess they think we have the best secondary in the NFL or something even though our FS's would be on the practice squad of nearly any other team, and one of our CBs is starting his first game.

I've always said the NFL is coaching and QB's, and at this point I don't see much improvement. If Gannonkowski returns and our DC grows some balls soon, I still have hope.

At this point the ADDSers have to be happy as hell!

5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bama7
Hey we got rid of Jemarcus, "the problem". And yet we still suck. So which player or coach do we blame it all on now? Is Vince Evans playing anywhere? Can we get him in here to play qb? Maybe we should just make Willie Brown head coach? Let's bring back Charles Philyaw to coach defense. He can stop the run. Maybe our coaching staff or upper mgt should call a player or two down to the "goodfellas" cocktail room over at hq and smack someone around after today's fiasco. I'm sure we'll take the smart approach.

6:07 PM  
Blogger Toni said...

Well it's not pre-season anymore. That's for sure.

I'm not sure what is more disheartening the fact that the Raiders' put in an extra offensive linemen and Campbell still was running for his life. Or that the defensive gave up rushing 200+ yards.

And I swear Zach Miller isn't going to be able to remember his name in five years if he continues to take the beating he does on every catch he makes.

Hopefully we'll do better against the Rams next week.

6:30 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"At this point the ADDSers have to be happy as hell"

BULLSHIT, nobody who is a Raider fan is happy. Don't be such an ass. Once again it is the "crew" who makes this an Al hater thing. It's about wins there Sparky. We all wish Al could succeed, he can't, that IS THE REALITY. So, in the best interest of the Team and the fans, it's time to step down. It's all it is, but the "crew" makes into a "hater" issue. They are so off base, it makes you wonder how they could get dressed in the morning.

JONES

6:41 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"and our DC grows some balls soon,"

Like I told ya, Like Warren Sapp tells ya, his BALLS ARE TIED. It's Al's defense, do you remember Aso's quote? He said in practise and preseason, they do different things on Defense. Every year, once the season starts, it goes back to what you saw today. Otherwise, they are FIRED. Is it sinking in yet? How much proof do you need?

JONES

6:45 PM  
Blogger Mr.Duva32 said...

Embarrassed.........

Synonyms: embarrass, abash, chagrin, discomfit, disconcert, faze, rattle

Pretty sums it up. But today, was just completely TAXING!!!!!

6:54 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Personally, I don't care if it's Al Davis or Mickey Mouse.

All I know is that people are responsible for fixing the Raiders, and the Raiders are still broken.

I would presume that the people most responsible for fixing the Raiders are the owner and the acting GM.

How can we still have so many glaring deficiencies after so many years?

7:00 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Regarding the Clown Car, I was this close to including it...It was definitely a Clown Car game. I'm just not sure I want to reprise it for another year. Hopefully, the Raiders will make it moot by performing at a more reasonable level in the coming weeks.

7:02 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
BULLSHIT, nobody who is a Raider fan is happy.
>>>

I usually don't read any of your posts because they are so embarrassingly unreadable, but I couldn't help but notice how you were the first one hear HAPPILY telling everyone how right you were and how wrong everyone else was.

Nope... no happiness at all there "JONES".

Now back to your regularly scheduled childish boorishness...

Not like I'm going to read it.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Where exactly did I write how happy I was? Where did I write how right I was? Nothing but FALSE comments from you and your ilk, you can never fly straight, it's why there will be no common ground. Ain't my fault I can see the TRUTH but you can't. Do you still blame your Parents for being such an ass?

JONES

8:13 PM  
Anonymous gary said...

"I'm right... you're wrong.. LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! I'm right... you're wrong... LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!

But that doesn't mean I am happy about it though."


Does this pretty much cover it??

I'll let the readers decide.

9:13 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Who honestly sees the OLine and WR making a complete metamorphosis into competent units anytime soon?

It is next to impossible to succeed in the NFL with a subpar Oline. When the OLine gives Campbell decent protection (which was a rarity on Sunday), Campbell is throwing to WRs who have little to no experience and production.

What is the identity of the offense? What is the identity of the defense? What exactly do we do well?

I hate to be so down but when I see the fundamentals of a team lacking so much, it is hard to put lipstick on a pig.

We don't tackle well. We don't block well. We don't run the ball well. We can't stop the run. We can't get open and catch the ball.

Am I missing anything?

9:16 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"I'm right... you're wrong.. LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!! I'm right... you're wrong... LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!"

WTF? It's amazing how a "crew" can be so messed up. Dude, get some help, your hate, your ego is your worst enemy. You are unable to look at situations clearly because you are way out of balance. Just admit it, you know nothing about football and you love idol worship. Now go to a therapy session and figure out why you became such an ass.

JONES

11:13 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

What we learned that we didn't want to know...

My Bad My Denial......

#1...The "OL" was bad but worse than I feared...

Penalties (Yds) 10(77) was mostly on the "OL"..."LT"/"C"/"RG"/"RT"....

I could sorta excuse the Rookie "C" for holding -n- bad snaps but Henderson at "LT" is a real liability...He has no heart...According to what I heard on the radio broadcast he missed blocks because he stood there confused instead of going after it...He was the worst we had...The right side was also not able to hold their own...Something needs to change here and very quickly or we aren't going anywhere but down down down...

Here are some possible remedies so we can move "Vald" to "LT"....

Dolphins cut C Jake Grove
Steelers cut C Justin Hartwig

"SD" has a "PB" "OT" in "Animated Suspension" that we might be able to go after...

#2...It's not going to matter much who we have at "WR" if we don't have time to throw...

The "WR"s were rarely even thrown to...Zack drew the double coverage so the rest should have been singled up in the zone...I would like to know how it looked in coverage...How much separation did they have...Was it just that "CJ" was under siege that disrupted that area of the game...

#4...Our run "D" is still very suspect...Fortunately we don't have to face too many double threats like this game had where both the "QB"-n-"RB" hurt us but damn!...This was not good and they knew exactly what was coming and had ample time to prepare for it....

#5...3rd dn "D" is vastly inadequate...

Third Down Efficiency 8/15 - 53%

#6...And in general...

Average Gain per Rushing Play 5.3
Average Gain per Passing Play 7.4

We can't depend on anything with this crap on the field....

I'm not sure about adjustments...We were down and came out with "TO"s trying to play catch-up with the pass....Late in the game we slowed the run better than early on which is strange considering our "D" should have been tired...

Wait-n-See is past now we enter Wait-n-See if we can do anything about it....

Points where I agree...

#1) "FG" on 4-1 at end of half was very damn weak...

#2) "CJ" has not proven he is a capable "QB" but "GradSki" may well be...

#3) We can't keep Zack healthy is he continues to take such a beating...

#4) "OL" is not dependable and doubtful to improve sufficiently as is...

#5) PhonyFanShadowPoster Celebratingly happy to have it bad was very damn obvious...Examples to follow at end of post...

Points where I disagree...

#1 Al Davis was NOT wearing any hats was he...So what's the point in bashin his aged appearance other than to feed your damn "HateTrip"...

#2) We blitzed and it showed by "LB" play in their backfield but on plays where we needed to send extra defenders we laid back and let them take advantage...Later in the game we did better...

#3) The "WR"s were not offered an opportunity to show anything with the poor play by our "OL" -n- "QB"s inconsistency so there is still the possibility of success with that unit...


PantyRaider...Can't Say The "WR"s Were Adequate If Not Involved In The Game!!!/_
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye Blanda and Gary! See you in January!!

12:14 PM


JONES said...

"Bye Blanda and Gary! See you in January!!"

Maybe it was an 11 year plan?

JONES

1:19 PM

12:53 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

As it now stands with 2 games left this week...

Hay!..."Town Crier" don't look stats to follow and I have no need to see your habitual tears and NO you can't censor my posting...

OakTown...

"O" #21...
Pass #23..
Rush #5...
Scoring #21...
"OL" #26...

"D" #18...
Pass #3...
Rush #27...
Sacks #11 Tie...
INTs #18 Tie...

Remarkably Similar To Our Habitual past...

1:11 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

One thing for sure "SF" no longer looks like a tough battle -n- they were NOT a very good barometer of our team in week 3 of the preseason...However bad we were they were even worse...

Third Down Efficiency 1/15 - 6%

31-6 loss to the lowly "SeaChicken"s...

Denver also lost...Tonight one more will go down between "SD"-n-"KC"...

Lookin at the surprises...

Texans break the Colts...

AFCS looks to be a tougher schedule than was expected...

Both Pitts-n-Miami will be tough by the time we play...

No team in the NFCW looks like much of a threat....

Corrected 2010 record projection...

"SD"...2 "L"s...
"Mules" 2 "V"s...
"Squaws" 2 "V"s...
NFCW 4 "V"...
AFCS 4 "L"...
Pitts "L"...
Miami "L"...

8-8 on the season....But that's if we can win 4 in our division and win the NFCW....Now that's as positive as I can be after what happened this week...

PantyRaider...Sad Reality Sets In!!!/_

1:34 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

As J-Mac said, “A business memo would characterize Week 1 for the Raiders as ‘failure to accomplish any of the objectives and/or projections set forth by management.”

There’s a few names here I would add to management as being totally blinded from the obvious. Some here are still blaming JaMarcus Russell. Well, Russell wasn’t there yesterday.

Jason Campbell looked horrible throwing and sliding (like he didn’t want to get his pants dirty). The O-line was horrific, and, as RT said, the WRs seemed invisible (they were single-covered all day).

This is why we need Gradkowski starting at QB.

I’m not saying he’s better than Campbell (well, maybe I am), but he’s the field general this offense needs. Remember last year when he pulled the team together? He was directing the O-linemen, and yelling at players when they lost their focus. And many of the false starts seemed to disappear when Gradkowski was the single-caller.

This team needs a field general at QB, not a deer caught in the headlights.

5:38 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Correction, that should read Gradkowski as the signal-caller, not single-caller.

6:42 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
I’m not saying he’s better than Campbell (well, maybe I am), but he’s the field general this offense needs.
>>>>


I couldn't agree more. Plus I think the team wants him on the field. I'm going to see if I can get a question through to JMAC on his life chat to find out if he is hearing any grumblings from the players that Gradk. is not playing.

If so, I will have to agree that this team is built around favoritism instead of winning.

I doubt Cable can survive the season with JaMarcus Campbell as QB... certainly he has to know that.

Is his hands THAT tied where he doesn't even get to pick the QB that will save his own damn job?

8:48 AM  
Anonymous Derick from Section 344 said...

A rookie, division 2 TACKLE, being asked to play CENTER, in his first NFL game, kickoff weekend, in Tennessee.

What could possibly go wrong??

10 minutes before kickoff.....

CABLE: Hey Jared! Come here for a second.

VELDHEER: Yeah Coach?

CABLE: Good Luck today kid, you’re gonna do great.
Hey, by the way, you realize that you’re in charge of all the line calls today right?

VELDHEER: Line Calls?

CABLE: Yeah, you know, LINE CALLS. Using your experience and knowledge of NFL defensive schemes to call out subtle adjustments based on what you see pre-snap in order to better protect...You know what, forget it, you’ll do fine. Have a great game kid.

VELDHEER: Thanks Coach.


I don't know whether I should laugh or cry.

9:09 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Cable started out as our offensive line coach. That's his area of expertise. He's had years to work on it. Yet our offensive line remains a disaster, and is perhaps getting worse.

That alone puts coals under the hot seat.

9:12 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

That business memo....‘failure to accomplish any of the objectives and/or projections set forth by management.”....Would be a reprimand sent forth to the coaching staff -n- players...

Management has done it's part to bring in a new highly regarded "OC" and insure the return of a "DL" coach who did well for us during our last episode of winning...They brought us a very good crop of draft picks as well as well regarded help at "LB"-n-"DT" on that "D" and "RB"-n-"QB" on that "O"...

Now dammit it's on these coaches and the players on that roster to do their part...Management is NOT going to suit up and go make or call plays on that football field...Al Davis was NOT wearing the "HC"s hat when seen in his booth during that damn game...So get the fu_king "BS" streight and put it squarely where it belongs...On the shoulders of the coaches-n-players...

As to new acquisitions I also see that may be necessary and posted as such but "WR" is NOT the area of huge/urgent needs...It's undoubtedly the "OL" and possibly the "D" as failures also surfaced in that side of the ball..."DB"s/"LB"s-n-"DL" was responsible as was the "DC"....

PantyRaider...Just Get Real Baby!!!/_

9:23 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Gary...

One thing of note: It was Cable who eventually shit-canned "JePurple" and refused to start him later so he must have some say....I think the deal was legitimate here with "GradSki" banged up early on and us wanting to see what we have in "JC" who better understood that "O"...But if the "QB" position continues to stumble and no changes are made we will have reason to second guess what is happening behind the scenes...

One more thing of note: With that piss poor performance by our "OL" just how much better would "GradSki" have been...We all agree it starts first with protection and there just wasn't any or most certainly not enough...

PantyRaider...Changes Definitely need To Be Made!!!/_

9:33 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Derick from Section 344...

I have to agree...He definitely had his hands full but prolley did better than the seasoned vets like "Stupid Mario" who missed block after block and drew the flag more than once...

"RT"-n-"RG" can also be added to that list....

The only player who's name was not called in a derogatory fashion in that games was our "LG" Gallery who went down to a knee injury...

Any word on how he is after the injury...

I can sorta excuse the rookie "C" but not the rest...They have been in these games and have the experience to know what they are doing...

Unless it was the rookie "C" making the wrong line calls which would be a sad thing to consider...If that was the case why wasn't he pulled and a vet put back in...

PantyRaider...More Disclosure Needed!!!/_

9:42 AM  
Anonymous Derick from Section 344 said...

PantyRaider...

I don't blame the rookie center as much as I blame the people who put him there.

(the same people who thought he had all the experience he needed and made the call to sit him for the final preseason game.)

Its just a lot to ask of a guy, thats all.

10:02 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders 23/38 passing = 15 inc passes...To Whom...

1-10-OAK 22 (14:52) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 20-D.McFadden (91-J.Jones).

1-10-OAK 35 (:49) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 45-M.Reece (98-D.Ball).

2-10-OAK 35 (:43) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep middle to 18-L.Murphy.

3-6-OAK 13 (7:49) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 18-L.Murphy.

1-10-OAK 20 (3:39) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 20-D.McFadden

2-11-TEN 22 (:33) (Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep middle to 18-L.Murphy (33-M.Griffin).

3-10-TEN 35 (7:09) (Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 25-R.Cartwright. Penalty on OAK-66-C.Carlisle, Offensive Holding, declined.

1-10-OAK 20 (1:47) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 85-D.Heyward-Bey (98-D.Ball, 30-J.McCourty).

3-3-OAK 27 (1:05) (Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass short right intended for 80-Z.Miller INTERCEPTED by 24-C.Hope at OAK 35. 24-C.Hope pushed ob at OAK 3 for 32 yards (76-R.Gallery).

1-10-OAK 30 (14:24) (No Huddle) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 80-Z.Miller.

2-8-TEN 31 (13:09) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 80-Z.Miller.

1-10-TEN 14 (6:40) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 15-J.Higgins.

2-10-TEN 14 (6:35) (Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 80-Z.Miller [55-S.Tulloch]

3-10-TEN 14 (6:29) (Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 20-D.McFadden (90-D.Morgan).

2-4-OAK 41 (4:05) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 8-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 15-J.Higgins.

Talley:

5 inc passes to "RB"s...

....3 to "D-Mac"...
....1 Reece...
....1 Cartwright...

4 inc passes to "TE"...Zack Miller

6 inc passes to "WR"...

....3 to Murphy...
....2 to "JLH"...
....1 to "DHB"...

So I'm sure someone can explain to me how this translates into a piss poor job by the "WR"s....

PantyRaider...Put It On The Line Where It Belongs...."OL"-n-Blame!!!/_

10:08 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Derick from Section 344...

Again I have to agree and you raised a thought that hadn't crossed my mind before...Was he making bad Line calls because he was too inexperienced and could that have been disruptive to how the "OL" played...

On the radio broadcast it was said that the "DL" was jumping around in front of "C" and getting away with it...That under the new rule the "DL" is not allowed to distract attention by jumping around or making quick movements...

If this was the case both the "Zebra"s -n- our coaches are at fault...

PantyRaider...If Anyone Has The Vid Please Review That Aspect!!!!/_

10:15 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

It's all so Deja Vu...Everything. I feel like I'm in a time warp.

10:38 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Management has done it's part..."

Sunday's evidence to the contrary.

Why do the problems the Raiders struggle with year in and year out continue to be a surprise to anyone, and how are the SAME problems always the coaches and players fault?

We had to listen (read) through the entire off-season that the Raiders were fixed, only to watch them lay an egg on Sunday, and we're still told that management has no blame.

Unbelievable!

And Gradkowski being injured in preseason had NOTHING to do with Campbell starting.

Campbell was told he was the starter when he was brought to the Raiders. Campbell said so himself, then later backed off that statement to toe the company line.

There was never a starting QB competition.

10:42 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Time to look ahead to our next opponent instead of crying over split hopes...

That's what we do in sports...Put it behind and go on...

"STL" Lambs....

"O"...
Rush....24/85yds 3.5yd ave....
Pass....32/55 253yds 4.2ave 3 Ints...

"D"...
21/112yds 5.3yd ave...
22/41 297yds 6.2 ave...

"STL"....-vs-.....Raiders...

"O"....#13........."D".....#18
Pass...#9..........Pass....#3
Rush...#21.........Rush....#27
Scoring #21 Tie....Scoring.#27 Tie
"OL"....#16........Sacks...#11 Tie
...................Ints....#18 Tie

"D".....#24........"O".....#21
Pass....#23........Pass....#23
Rush....#17........Rush....#5
Sacks...#11 Tie...."OL"....#26
Scoring #14 Tie....Scoring.#21
Ints....#18 Tie...

Note: Stats -w- Only 28 teams reporting...

PantyRaider...Even Match-Up But We Can Run!!!/_

Hopefully Bush is in there also...

10:52 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Open the eyes again...We're improving ever so slowly "RT"...No it's NOT "Excellence"...We're coming from the pits of hell and clawing our way beck...Now I know you didn't believe the progress was real before the came so give up the "I'm So Shocked" impersonation and tell it like it was...

I'm one who felt confidant we made sufficient progress on the "D" to be able to stay in a game...So I'm legitimately shocked by our continued lack of fundamentals on that side of the ball...

The "O" is diminished also in my eyes because of the "OL" play that I warned about prior to this game as public enemy #1....

But I'm far from "Hope Is Lost"....We have a few relatively easy targets ahead to get healthy on so I'm very hopeful further progress will be made and we're ready for the tougher opponents that lay ahead....

PantyRaider...Your Always Trying To Be The Knife In Our Sides!!!/_

11:08 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Well NYR, when the owner/GM goes on a radio show and declares Campbell as the next Plunkett....is it going to take Russell futility for Al to swallow his pride again and let the HC play the best Qb the Raiders have right now? Al restricted Cable from playing Grad in favor of Russell. Now Al is doing it again, all in the name of his ego and trying to show the world that he can make wine out of piss. Everyone on the team, everyone outside of Raider management and the "crew", knows that Grad should be in there, he is the leader on that offense. But some are blinded by their own selfishness and just can't see it.

As far as it being the players and coaches fault, why is the "sheriff" riding those "dead horses" again? One rule for the "crew"......

JONES

11:12 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

You are right, if we are improving, it is "ever so slowly."

And you wonder why I might be impatient?

And yes, I am surprised that the product looked EXACTLY the same yesterday. It was a complete rerun of last year. I didn't quite expect that.

11:22 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Open the eyes again...We're improving ever so slowly..."

We live in a "nation" in which improvement is labeled as being dominated in all three phases of a blowout loss.

The bar has never been lower.

11:24 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"So I'm legitimately shocked by our continued lack of fundamentals on that side of the ball..."

Its (it's the scheme), 90% man to man, safety deep, rush 4, 3 on 3rd and long. Keep blitzing to a MIN. This is the scheme, it has been exploited like a child actor. It can't work, that needs to change RIGHT NOW, but once again, a certain person's ego rules over what is best for the team. And the "crew" condones it, enables it and says "I'm shocked, I just don't understand duhh".

JONES

11:31 AM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

I agree with Gary, & NYR.

Gradkowski should be the starting QB.

What's more, Grad has EARNED the starting job by his performance last year.

But that's a problem with the Raiders. There is no incentive to play hard, because you really cannot earn/win a job.

You have to be one of the "Pets", or on Al's "Scholarship" program.

That's the only way to get ahead in Oakland.

Did Grad earn the starting job ?

Did Ricky Brown earn a roster spot ?

Did Trevor Scott earn the OlB position ?

Yes, yes, and yes.

But for the Raiders, EARN, is a dirty word.

12:19 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

The only way Gradkowski gets to start is if Campbell goes down with injury.

With our OL, that should be within the next 1-3 weeks.

Who's got the over-under on that one?

Unfortunately, it's no joking matter. Henderson obviously suffers from narcolepsy. And the right side isn't much better.

12:28 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

For anyone who thinks Chaz Schilens will soon be back on the field, and that his injury situation isn't a repeat of last year, J-Mac had this to offer:

"Wide receiver Chaz Schilens, wearing black support hose on his surgically repaired left knee and walking with the help of a crutch, came into the training area entering the locker room and then thought better of it when he saw the assembled media."

That doesn't sound like the description of a player who will hit the field anytime soon... or at all this season.

So while there are a few Raiders WRs that could double their career totals in an afternoon, there's still no sign of vet help at WR.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous Raided Nate 75 said...

Same vanilla offense, same lack of "pressure" defense that cannot stop the run (even if it were their grandma running the ball). It's going to be a long season...again.

6:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Positives...

Late in the 3rd "KC" is leading "SD" in an upset surprise....

The real funny thing is "KC"s stats are so damn bad they only have 4yds passing at this late point in the 3rd...1:43 mark....

The West really is up for grabs and there will be NO damn excuse if the Raiders don't get their shit together and go after it...

PantyRaider....PERIOD!!!/_

8:40 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Whoops!...That was the halftime not the end of the 3rd...

Just turned it on and mistook what I saw...But still funny...

Here are their stats at the half...

Now don't start crying "TC" it's just stats and they won't hurt you...

...............SD.....KC
First Downs 6... 6
Total Yards 127... 127
Passing Yards 68... 26
Rushing Yards 59... 101
Penalties (Yds) 2(10)... 1(10)
Turnovers 1... 0
Punts (AVG) 6(20)... 5(34)
Time of Pos. 18:49... 11:11

What we can see same from last season...

"SD" has no run "D" again....
"KC"s "O" is very one dimensional...
"KC"s "D" is tough again and their "ST"s can score...

PantyRaider...Rootin For "KC"!!!/_

8:59 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

09/13/2010 Waived/Injury Settlement: DEs Alex Daniels and Jay Richardson

Re: "OT"s...As in both...

We’ve got to play better at tackle. That’s the bottom line here. We’ll do that. We’ll keep working at it, putting it together, using different ways to help them. We’ll just coming up with a process to help those two guys with their issues.

Q: Do you think in your heart of hearts that this O-line is fixable?

Cable:Yeah, I do. It has to be. I do believe that.

Again, when you look at the film there’s a lot of guys open all over the place. It’s just in the first two series he was sacked three or four times. You stand back there with those goons chasing you like that and get hit that many times. We have to fix that first. Let him get comfortable.

Re: "C"...Play Calls May Have Been Issue...

Q: What did you think of Veldheer on film?

Cable: Very competitive. He battled and battled and battled. There were some timing issues with the whole offense, and that starts with the snap. Those are some things to work on.

Cable: How he handled himself was good. You always question yourself when you don’t win, and some of that was part of the issue, for your ability to operate offensively. So yes and no on part I, do I question whether I should have put him in there in that environment. And as for how he did, he battled his tail off.

Re: "D" Failures...

when you guys go look at this film, you’re gonna be very shocked and a little bit angry to see yourselves doing things that we used to do. Things we haven’t done all preseason. Things we kind of felt we had moved beyond. And there they are again.

But you don’t miss a tackle right in the hole and give up a seventy-something yard run. Period, end of story. That’s what it is. It reflects on all of us. It’s not good enough yet.

. We’re kind of pissed off, if I can say that. We’re not feeling sorry for ourselves.

Damn...Now my hope is they come out "Pissed-Off" and take it out on the "Lamb"s and each victim the following weeks...If NOT this team just has NO heart...

PantyRaider...Feeling A Little Better About The Future!!!/_

9:36 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Cable and PR can spin it any which way they please but all I can say at this point after witnessing 7 seasons of double digit losses and a beat down in the opener is ...

If we don't beat the Rams, we are in for a VERY long season.

9:44 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

I just love to see "SD" playing stupid football under Turner,,,

4-9-KC 32 (7:09) (Shotgun) P.Rivers pass incomplete short left to L.Naanee.

"KC" takes ove on their 32 @ the 7:03 mark of in the 4th with a 21-14 lead...Can they protect it though remains to be seen...

PantyRaider...Go "LightningBug"s Down-Down-Down!!!!/_

"KC" is shutting down their power...."LightsOut"...

10:01 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

Your thoughts are I'm "Spinning" while mine are your continuing in perpetual despair...

Sense when is it a bad thing to look at where the problems lay and ask/seek answers as to why...Now that has to be labeled as "Spinning It"...Typical...Very damn typical "Doom-n-Gloom" while you continue to attempt to paste your "Censorship" stickers on any post not in agreement with your dysfunction...

New rookie converted "C" was off on timing and maybe wasn't apt at line calls...Is that something too difficult for you to acknowledge as a possible contributing factor as to why that "OL" played so damn bad yesterday while according to reports receivers were open down field but couldn't be hit while our "QB" was running for his life...

Meanwhile our "D" reverted back to old habits like taking their eyes off of receivers and not staying in gaps because they want to be too aggressive and not in control...

WoW!...Now that's really "Spinning" it out of the realm of possibilities while of course your completely correct...We just suck and are the same 7 season losing franchise we will always be...

Meanwhile "KC" wins and takes the lead in the AFCW with the 3 remaining team only one game out...Now that includes us...We kept pace with "SD" even in a loss so it just ain't all that bad Baby!!...

PantyRaider...Final Game Stats So The "TC" Can Shed More Tears!!!/_

...............SD....KC
First Downs 18... 9
Total Yards 389... 197
Passing Yards 280... 62
Rushing Yards 109... 135
Penalties (Yds) 5(30)... 3(35)
Turnovers 1... 0
Punts (AVG) 8(20)... 9(35)
Time of Pos. 37:28... 21:59

10:22 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Take a look at "KC"s "O" and yet they still won on the strength of their "D" -n- "ST's...

"O"...
Third Down Efficiency 1/11 - 9%

"D" allowed...
Third Down Efficiency 4/15 - 26%
Fourth Down Efficiency 1/3 - 33%

10:35 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

If you watched the KC SD game, you saw Matt Cassel run on 3rd down using a head-first dive.

The difference between his play and Campbell's slide on 3rd down is that Cassel really wanted the first down, and got it.

If you're QB doesn't where the chains are, well, that's a problem... and not just running the ball, but throwing it.

4:34 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

In The Eyes Of Your Favorite "Mediot"...

"while the Raiders deserve a healthy dose of skepticism based on the last seven years, visual evidence suggests that despite what happened Sunday, they’re considerably better as a passing offense than they were a year ago....so I’m going to believe my eyes and expect they’ll be upgraded to somewhere near average this year because that’s what I saw in July and August."

"Looks like 8-8 means contention, and the next three opponents are St. Louis, Arizona and Houston. With the possible exception of the Texans _ which plays the Raiders in Oakland _ none of these teams presents the kinds of challenges the Raiders faced in Nashville."


Official 1st week Standing AFCW...
Stats are a partial sampling of what will actually be their real strengths -n- weaknesses....

Raiders...
"O".....#22
Pass....#25
Rush....#5 Tie -w- "KC"
Scoring.#23 Tie
"OL"....#30

"D".....#21
Pass....#5
Rush....#31
Scoring.#31 Tie
Sacks...#11 Tie


LightningBug"s....
"O"......#4
Pass.....#4
Rush.....#15
Scoring..#19 Tie
"OL".....#19

"D"......#4
Pass.....#2
Rush.....#27
Scoring..#23
Sacks....#21 Tie

"Squaw"s....
"O"......#29
Pass.....#31
Rush.....#5 Tie -w- Raiders
Scoring..#10
"OL".....#6

"D"......#29
Pass.....#29
Rush.....#18
Scoring..#11 Tie
Sacks....#21 Tie

"MuleHead"s....
"O"......#9
Pass.....#6
Rush.....#20 Tie
Scoring..#14 Tie
"OL".....#24

"D"......#15
Pass.....#12
Rush.....#26
Scoring..#24 Tie
Sacks....#21 Tie

"SD" has the best "O" -n- best "D" but weak against the run...

"Mule"s have the 2nd best "O" with an average "D" also weak against the run...

Raiders have the 3rd "O" -n- 3rd "D" in the division -w- a strong running game equal to "KC"...

"KC" has the worst "O" and the worst "D" but they beat "SD" -w- "ST's -n- their strong running game....

PantyRaider....Parity In The West!!!/_

5:55 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
One more thing of note: With that piss poor performance by our "OL" just how much better would "GradSki" have been...We all agree it starts first with protection and there just wasn't any or most certainly not enough...
>>>>

As bad as it was on Sunday, it was just as bad if not worse last year and Gannonkowski still had some impressive wins... and threw for 300+ yards against the former SB champs.

If there is any person on the planet that is prepared to play behind a crappy line it is Gradkowski... especially since I think the OL respect and will play harder for him.

Not sure how many games I can bear to watch if we keep trotting out low-IQ QB's that for some reason EXPECT great coverage every play... and then don't even know WTF to do with it when it happens.

I see nothing from JaMarcus Campbell that makes me think he is the answer... and I didn't even see too much in practice games against vanilla defenses.

The guy is completely over his head in the NFL... and I suspect Wash completely dumbed down their playbook for him to be even a serviceable QB.

I guess Cable/Jackson has a choice to make... start the QB that gives us the best chance to win with the playbook we have, or tear it in half and start over with something a child could handle.

6:46 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Gradkowksi, even under pressure, somehow gets the ball down field. There were plays Sunday that Campbell seemed to look for the checkdown before his primary target(s). Maybe that was by design, but I don't remember too many balls being thrown down field.

7:24 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Gary...

This week we go against what is the #27 "D" so things should be much easier...

Pass....#26
Rush....#19

Our "O" at #22
Pass....#25
Rush....#5

So we should be able to both run -n- pass against that team...So I expect this "OL" to come out and give our "QB" some measure of protection and for that running game to give us the advantage...

The problem is that now everyone has seen the effects of getting in "JC"s face and the ease of doing that against our "OL" so no doubt they will try to bring the heat the same way...We may have just opened the door to something we are powerless to stop but I'm hoping Cable is for real and can get this crap straightened out soon...

If "JC" continues to be inept early I for one would make the change and we still have him for back-up...None of these guys are making the big bucks so either could warm the bench...

As for our "D"s failures they too should get healthy this week...

"STL" holds the #14 "O"....

Pass....#10
Rush....#24

Which is a good match-up for our "D" at #21...

Pass....#5
Rush....#31

But these players need to want it and want it bad...They need to come out angry and get after the Lambs early and often...NO laying back crap...

PantyRaider...Questions At "QB" Are Less Than "OL" Deficiencies!!!/_

7:27 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"NYR"...

According to what I heard the routs were shortened and he thew very short -n- behind the line which is what he was known for in Washington...The "WR"s had very little opportunity to show anything intermediate to deep in that game which is why I questioned how we could even judge their abilities...

It was reported that once "JC" got rattled early on he closed up and was looking for the quick dump off...If "GradSki" can handle that kind of pressure better than he should get the chance to play...

I'm not going to start beating that drum after just the 1st week but if "JC" can't get it together this week he should hold the clipboard on the sidelines and learn while "GradSki" demonstrates how...

But notoriously most team are very reluctant to make quick changes at "QB"...

PantyRaider...Wanting Don't Make It Happen!!!/_

7:37 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

One more note on the "Lamb"s...

This will be the rookie Sam Bradford's 2nd ever start and he threw 3 Ints this week so our "DB"s should have some opportunities....

32/55, 253 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT

We need to bring the heat often and get to him early...

Steven Jackson is a threat but no where near the threat "CJ"-n-"VY" were...

PantyRaider...Relentless Attack!!!/_

7:50 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

My take on game #1.

While really was proud to advance in pre season that Veldeer would break into the starting line-up, Tom Cable blew this one. If he was going to have Veldeer become the starting Center, it shouldn't have been on the first game of the season after only playing in two exhibition games for a half or less.

It was a little unfair of Cable to expect a Division II player to make that leap. It was apparent that Tennessee actually game planned to blow him up, and they succeeded, causing the whole line to collapse iin the first half. They settled down in the second half but it was too late.

I also don't think that the QB situation is completely settled. I now understand the Skins fans' discomfort with Campbell. He doesn't make mistakes, but he also doesn't make things happen. He's the type of QB Jon Gruden loves. One who lets the game come to him.

But at this point in their developement, the Raiders need to go out and take a win. They need a QB like Gradkowski. Problem is, Gradkowski may be injury prone.

Bottom line is I agree with JMac. It's one game. I expect 3-1 after four games. I can live with 2-2. If we go 1-4 or 0-4, I'll say, "Here we go again."

Tennessee presents a far more difficult problem than most teams. They have the best running QB in the league, and the best RB. I'd suggest that's a combination that at least 10 other teams this season won't stop.

8:11 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"BR"...

I think we see it the same way...That "OL" just imploded way to fast -n- way too far to be a typical problem with blocking...It was more like what happened to us in that last "SB" when we lost Barret Robins to metal issues and had to rely on his back-up with short notice..."TB" saw the opportunity and went after it...

The radio crew reported Teen's "DL" was getting away with jumping around and making quick moves to disrupt our "OL" and no flags were being thrown...The young rookie "C" was not ready to deal with all that and his regular assignment at the same time...

It was also reported that Tenn generates the highest amount of pre-snap penalties in the NFL against anyone who plays in their stadium...Those things should have been anticipated and taken into consideration prior to sending such a rookie in there to get burned...

The whole "O" suffered as a consequence...

PantyRaider...Talk About Complete Immersion!!!/_

8:32 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Panty, you and I see it exactly the same way. The center is responsible for all of the protection calls at the line, and to audible line calls. He is the QB of the offensive line.

It seemed to me that the thumb tacks were off side on about a dozen plays in the first half, but they were never called. They were in Veldeer's face the entire first half. A rookie from a Divsion II school didn't stand a chance.

8:56 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"BR"...

I didn't get to see the game because the video stream never opened here....But this is also what was reported on the radio broadcast...Plunket -n- Flores know what's going on...they may be homers but they are also knowledgeable too...

PantyRaider...One Mistake By the "HC" May Have Cost The Game!!!/_

9:08 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

What I don't get is that it took the entire offseason for the Raiders to realize they didn't have a starting center, so they throw in a Division II LT.

I don't blame Valdheer for Sunday, and it's hard to blame Cable because he had no viable option.

As far as the Titans defense getting off the ball so quickly, Cable was questioned by the media and downplayed it as the Titans having a propensity to jump off-sides.

The question really is whether or not Campbell and the Raiders provided the Titans D with identifiable calls and/or cadence that allowed them to react as fast or even faster than the Raiders O-line. It was ugly to watch.

9:46 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

P.S. If Cable "KNEW" the Titans D had a propensity to jump offsides, why wouldn't he try and exploit that with calls and cadence to draw them off?

That seems too obvious.

No matter how to slice it, this team still isn't playing with a full deck. Somebody is always gonna be a dollar short or a day late.

9:52 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

it's hard to blame Cable because he had no viable option.

He had an experienced Samson Satele....He could have worked Valdheer in slowly and not had so much disruption on the "OL"...

But this is all hind-sight so what happens now should tell us something...

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to sound like a broken record, but GOD DAMN YOU AND THAT FOOTBALL LUCY!!!!!

They did it to me again. I really had raised my expectations this off season. I didn't think we could win, but I did think we would be able to compete.

Charlie Brown out!

Roy

10:20 AM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

Keep in mind about Jason Campbell that he had a rep of being a poor red zone QB with the skins.

And he had more weapons in Washington.

Campbell is the new Dan Pastorini.

Campbell will be out by game 5, and in will come Gradkowski/Plunkett.

It's 1980 again...isn't it ??

2:08 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

00, isn't that what Davis predicted?

I have a great deal of faith in Veldeer. From all accounts he's really, really bright and picks things up very quickly. But to ask him to play the QB of the OL without ever having played the position in college (Division II at that) in his very first pro game, when he's been given only about four quarters to understand the position, is asking too much.

3:54 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

The brightness of Veldeer.

He's brighter than Cable. Cable should have had Veldeer play at least the first half of the Seattle game for the added experience. Also, when he was asked if Veldeer had any prior experience at Center, he should have made something up like, "I don't know but he seems like he's been playing there all his life."

When Veldeer was asked the same question, he said he didn't want to provide so much information to Tennessee. Smart guy. You can argue that he knew what was coming and should have prepared himself better - but how do you prepare yourself for that when you're from a Division II school?

As it was, it looked to me like Tennessee actually specifically game planned for Veldeer. They seemed determined to get into his head from the very first snap, and they succeeded. Fortunately he was able to settle down, but plan on the Lambs to try exactly the same thing.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

A commenter called HayesDaze left this comment on JMac's blog, thought it was compelling:

"It’s STILL a great time to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?

Attention panickers and bandwagoners: It’s not the end of the world. But it most certainly IS time to stop “relaxing” — and get this team’s attitude adjusted.

Yes, they were nervous…it was evident they were tight right from the start. But, handling this nervousness by playing it down is killing the personality of the team. This team lacks fire. Period.

Sometimes, keeping ones cool isn’t what we need to be doing. On the field or on the sideline. At some point somebody needs to get nasty. Nasty and mean and pi$$ed off and tough and nasty again.

A nasty-playing team doesn’t need to be dirty. Just nasty. We’ve got the bodies, and we’ve got the personalities…yet we’re timid and flat. Doesn’t make any sense.

Cable does his worst Art Shell impression during the self-destruction. Hue Jackson called a terrible game. JCampbell stayed entirely too smoove all day…he needed to light a fire in the huddle*. Mario Henderson played like the slowest Tackle in the League, also without fire. Veldheer played like a rookie in his first start in an ugly environment; sub-par but fixable. McClain called an OK game, and played it just OK, as he was too easily squared-up on and leveraged. Like him or not, it’s time to take a long look at MMitchell to see if he can live up to the hype.

We can only assume that Hue Jackson would’ve done a little more ground n’ pound early on had MBush been in there. In the very beginning of the game, the nasty, physical, a$$-kicking was handed out by the Titans D-line…on our bigger O-line. That D-line needed to be punched in their mouths hard, right from the beginning…and you do that by pounding it right at ‘em.

DMcFadden’s great effort aside, the O-line needs to be able to inflict its will on the D-line, esp on running plays…we couldn’t even do that right.

Not too late to fix anything, but it’s almost too late to get their attitudes right…it’s time for somebody ON THE FIELD saying “enough is enough.”

*Jason Campbell should start again this week… but Bruce Gradkowski wouldn’t need someone to get him fired-up. Or his Offense."

4:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey i say give campbell soup tomato can another game and if he plays like shit again bench him and put gradkowski in por favor

5:39 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

An offense takes on the personalty of its QB. We saw proof of that last year with Russell (and Gradkowski).

When a veteran QB slides a yard short of the 1st down marker on a 3rd down scramble, he more or less takes a knee and concedes. That’s what Campbell and the Raiders did on Sunday.

Clearly, “taking a knee” isn’t Gradkowski’s style.

It’s possible that Gradkowski wouldn’t take the Raiders further than 8-8 this year.

But it’s also possible that Jason Campbell will lead the Raiders to his W-L total from last year. His best game last year, hands down, was against the Raiders. And here he is, like all the one-hit wonders and Super Bowl MVPs before him.

So while he may seem fundamentally sound, Campbell will need to be much more than that to win as the Raiders QB.

5:47 PM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

sorry chimong in late here folks:

nyraider said "This team needs a field general at QB, not a deer caught in the headlights."

is it me or did campbell look lost and confused on tv? i mean - he looked more than just frustrated...

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While this is a little off the current thread my belief of what is happening can be anchored around what Malcolm Gladwell (Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers) has been offering lately as an argument...the difference between a puzzle and a mystery. Without going too far into it, he offers that the Cuban Missile Crisis was a puzzle; 9-11 a mystery. The journalistic research behind Watergate was a puzzle and the research behind Enron a mystery. There is far more to this but humor me in this analogy for a moment. Gladwell continues this puzzle versus mystery discussion by talking how NFL QB’s represent more of a mystery than a puzzle. If a puzzle, given all the data unearthed and investments made by NFL Franchises in these players, certainly QB’s chosen in the first 50 picks would outperform those chosen in picks 51 -150, however they do not. NFL franchises have not proven to be proficient in making these selections.

The example of this could not be closer to home for us in the Nation after JaMarcus. Clearly, there is more to just putting together a successful team in the modern NFL than just solving a puzzle. And here is what Gladwell suggests to the business world...a truly effective leader must recognize that information presents itself in a different manner than the past. What now is required of a leader is the willingness to step back from the problem and recognize that making decisions are different now than how they were made in the past.

To me this is the rub. With all due respect to Mr. Davis, the framework of organizational decision making is radically different now than it was even 10 years ago, let alone decades ago. You are who you are. People are indelibly shaped by their life experience and the decisions they make echo those experiences. No question Mr. Davis wants to win. But I would argue you that what made him a Maverick now merely makes him antiquated in a very different business. While we may experience snippets of success, a sustained approach with consistent innovation is no longer a cultural competency within the Oakland Raiders.

One’s ability to break down X’s and O’s is not a primer of success. In fact, it has proven to be nothing more than a primer of continued failure and volatility. The NFL of old represented a puzzle. The modern NFL is more of a mystery and takes a different set of skills; skills that no longer exist within the Raider culture. Rebuilding the Raiders for sustained improvement will not occur with a new center or QB or defensive scheme; it has to begin internally. All other efforts are attempts at solving a mystery like a puzzle.

Blue Monday

6:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While this is a little off the current thread my belief of what is happening can be anchored around what Malcolm Gladwell (Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers) has been offering lately as an argument...the difference between a puzzle and a mystery. Without going too far into it, he offers that the Cuban Missile Crisis was a puzzle; 9-11 a mystery. The journalistic research behind Watergate was a puzzle and the research behind Enron a mystery. There is far more to this but humor me in this analogy for a moment. Gladwell continues this puzzle versus mystery discussion by talking how NFL QB’s represent more of a mystery than a puzzle. If a puzzle, given all the data unearthed and investments made by NFL Franchises in these players, certainly QB’s chosen in the first 50 picks would outperform those chosen in picks 51 -150, however they do not. NFL franchises have not proven to be proficient in making these selections.

The example of this could not be closer to home for us in the Nation after JaMarcus. Clearly, there is more to just putting together a successful team in the modern NFL than just solving a puzzle. And here is what Gladwell suggests to the business world...a truly effective leader must recognize that information presents itself in a different manner than the past. What now is required of a leader is the willingness to step back from the problem and recognize that making decisions are different now than how they were made in the past.

To me this is the rub. With all due respect to Mr. Davis, the framework of organizational decision making is radically different now than it was even 10 years ago, let alone decades ago. You are who you are. People are indelibly shaped by their life experience and the decisions they make echo those experiences. No question Mr. Davis wants to win. But I would argue you that what made him a Maverick now merely makes him antiquated in a very different business. While we may experience snippets of success, a sustained approach with consistent innovation is no longer a cultural competency within the Oakland Raiders.

One’s ability to break down X’s and O’s is not a primer of success. In fact, it has proven to be nothing more than a primer of continued failure and volatility. The NFL of old represented a puzzle. The modern NFL is more of a mystery and takes a different set of skills; skills that no longer exist within the Raider culture. Rebuilding the Raiders for sustained improvement will not occur with a new center or QB or defensive scheme; it has to begin internally. All other efforts are attempts at solving a mystery like a puzzle.

Blue Monday

6:08 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Well said! Thank you Blue Monday.

6:11 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

raider00 said...
"Keep in mind about Jason Campbell that he had a rep of being a poor red zone QB with the skins."

This simply isn't true. As a matter of fact, it is the exact opposite. Although the Skins had fewer red zone opportunities, Campbell was VERY efficient in the red zone. Look it up:


http://www.ffmastermind.com/fantasy-football-red-zone-analysis.php

Jason Campbell 2009: 42/68-284-18-0

Last 3 years:
Jason Campbell: 100/181-692-40-3


That's right ... 40 TD passes and 3 INTS over the past 3 years in the red zone.

It seems that alot of people are writing off Jason Campbell. Look folks, I watched the game. He didn't play well BUT and this is a HUGE but ... the guy was running for his life on virtually EVERY single pass snap.

The "JaMarcus Campbell" barbs are totally off-base and unwarranted. I don't have any false illusions that Campbell is an elite QB but here's what I do know that is proven to date:

He is a stand-up, hard working, athletic, durable, dedicated, accurate, professional QB with the keyword being professional.

6:16 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Thanks for the thoughtful and thought-provoking take, Blue Monday!

6:25 PM  
Anonymous scorpio said...

oops - typos - i meant "chiming n".

ummm did anyone watch the kc/sd game? dyam did kc looked improved. we admit that we laughed when we read some of these writers picked the chiefs to finish ahead of the raiders in the division. but they beat the freakin afc western division champion chargers man! we're supposed to be those "chiefs"!!!!

yes it's only 1 lousy game BUT can we fix what needs to be fixed and still have a good year? can someone give me a pat on the back and say everything's gonna be ok there scorp buddy? :o|

6:34 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Who cares about Campbell, he is only in there because Al wants to prove a point. Grad OWNS the Offense, the team responds with glee when he is in there, HE IS A LEADER. Campbell is not, he does not inspire anyone except Al Davis and a few on here.

Grad is the guy, said it when Grad showed he was back to 100% this off season. He came in and the Offense lit up, players PLAYED BETTER. What is the definition of a good player, a leader? Someone who makes those around him better, it was clearly the case whenever Grad is in there. You have to be blind not to see it.

Anyways, not that Grad will take the Raiders to the Bowl, but he sure makes the Offense BETTER than the stinky thing it is with unispired Qb play and an O-line that is already falling apart. Grad is a PLAYER, Campbell is not, why can't the genius Al Davis see this?

Sticking the new kid at Center, whoever (Al) is making this call, get your head examined. Not only do you ruin a good prospect, but you screw up the whole Offense. It's things like this that are mind blowing, how can a "professional" franchise be run like this, it's pathetic. No WR's FOR YEARS, no O-line for years, subpar Qb's for years. Gannon was great other than that...George? Collins? Brooks? WTF.

Trading away draft picks for guys like Moss and Seymour and totally blowing draft picks that are kept(except for this year). The Raiders have no chance, no chance in hell. BLOW IT UP, get some new blood to run the damn thing and at least try something new.

JONES

6:52 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

"Can someone give me a pat on the back and say everything's gonna be ok there scorp buddy?"

Of course someone can. Give it a few minutes.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Just so were are clear, I also share Jones' enthusiasm for Ski. It is Ski's intangibles, moxie, improvisational skills that gives him a chance to succeed IN SPITE of a bad OLine and WR corps.

It is also clear to me that Campbell deserves to be given a chance to prove himself next week and beyond. To judge Campbell based on 1 game with an OLine that couldn't give him decent protection and a WR corps that is unproven and unproductive is rash.

The more important issue to address is even more important than picking QBs ... the success of our offense just like any playoff caliber team relies on a competent, talented OLine. At this point, it is too late in the game to change the OLine personnel. Our current OLine will need to rise above and perhaps be reconfigured.

If Cable starts Veldheer at LT and Campbell at RG, so be it. In my mind, the current OLine minus Gallery (Walker, Carlisle, Veldheer, Henderson) are 1 more poor performance away from being replaced as necessary.

To lose to the Rams at home and go 0-2 would be devastating on many levels.

9:33 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

What has Campbell done to warrant that he remain the starter? Grad has shown without a shadow of a doubt that this Offense will play their heart out for him. They go to a higher level. It's crystal clear to those who can see. Look at Campbell on the bench, who does he look like? Look at Grad on the sidelines, who does he look like? Who fires up the team? Who would you rather have? There is no argument for Campbell, other than he is an Al project so it's up to him....

JONES

9:56 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Blue Monday....

Excellent work Bro...Don't stay far away...I enjoyed the read even if it was a take opposite of what I typically post...

The Raiders are the last team fashioned in the image of their owner as all others have long sense passed on...One thing that has been touched on here is the attitude and that's one of the dominating traits in that owner's image that fashioned this team in it's past...Now how do we bring back that which has been lost now so long ago...

"Killer Instinct"...

The "Smell of Blood" that fires them up and makes them play above themselves...The will to just "Take It" -n- "Dictate to Them" what will be...

"Take What We Want When We Want" -n- "Damn All Who Would Object"...

The real pitiful thing is it's even been lost amongst many of the fans who once embodied those traits as much as this team did...


"CJ"....

ThankYou...Setting the record straight is always a good thing...


One thing I think I'm beginning to detect after trolling around and reading a variety of post...The fans seem a little more than just disappointed...They are starting to seem just a little angry.....

Now I hope that translates also to this team because they really need to go into their own house and destroy somebody and no better time than the now and no better target than the "Lamb"s...Just because that's the next scheduled feast on the menu...

My hope now is that after tasting the blood of domination it carries over and fills this team with the vigor needed to succeed...

PantyRaider...Just Bring Back The "Nasty" Baby!!!!/_

If not...We no longer have the will to win much less than to dominate anyone anywhere...

"Break a Jaw-Bone"...Cable...

9:58 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CJ"...

It's never too late and we are still well within the "Trade Deadline"...

But trades may not be necessary with 2 "C"s already on the "Chopping Block" waiting to be saved...

Steelers cut C Justin Hartwig
Dolphins cut C Jake Grove

Jake played here before and did a good job but may be damage now I'm not sure...

PantyRaider...Seymour Was Added Just One Week Earlier Last Season!!!/_

10:15 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Patriots trade RB Maroney to Broncos for fourth-round pick


"Lamb" on the Grill"

Cornerback Kevin Dockery has a "significant" left-hamstring strain and might not play next week at Oakland, Spagnuolo said. Rookie tight end Michael Hoomanawanui has a high left ankle sprain that could sideline him a while.

Wide receiver Laurent Robinson was in a walking cast on his right leg after aggravating an ankle injury,

Running back Steven Jackson underwent an MRI exam on an inflamed right knee, but Spagnuolo believed the veteran would be fine.

This shows the graphic match-up...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010091910/2010/REG2/rams@raiders/preview/quick-take#tab:analyze

Very even with a slight edge for the "Lamb"s on "O" and an edge for the Raiders on "D"....

But I will speculate we had the tougher opponent last Sunday so our stats mean more...Calibrate slightly higher...

A loss at home to this one would open the door to the Dungeon again..."Back To The Abyss" is NOT a flick I'm wanting to see this season...

PantyRaider...Need To Win -n- Win Big!!!!/_

11:03 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

From the media:

"Titans defensive tackle Jason Jones told the (Nashville) Tennessean that Campbell was leaning back a little bit before the snap on passing plays. That would partially explain the great jump the Titans were getting off the snap, and Campbell's ineffectiveness (two fumbles, one interception, four passes batted down and four sacks)."

Campbell was the Raiders worst enemy last Sunday.

PR: the "taste of blood" the Raiders got was their own. I certainly hope that doesn't carry over.

5:02 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"NYR"...

If you understood anything I was posting that was referring to the "Lamb"s game if in fact we get on them and "Smell Blood"...

Obviously there was nothing in last Sunday's game to sugest the Raiders could "Smell/Taste Blood"...

5:25 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

JMACs "live chat" calmed me down quite a bit. Hopefully a win vs a much less formidable team will make us forget the Titans game.

Tenn could very well be one of the best teams in the AFC this year... perhaps even the NFL.

7:51 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>
Raider Take said...

"Can someone give me a pat on the back and say everything's gonna be ok there scorp buddy?"

Of course someone can. Give it a few minutes.
>>>>


Huh? Isn't this where all the Raider "fans" come to whine, and claim all is lost for the next 3 years?

To the person that asked that question... read JMACs "live chat" for a calmer perspective from someone that actually follows the team.

7:56 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PR - My bad. Kick 'em while they're down. I get it.

Unfortunately, they're probably thinking the same thing.

8:18 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Take, I was wrong. You've still got it. I particularly liked your take at about 4:10.

Blue Monday, welcome. A very interesting point of view. From my prior posts, you'd obviously understand that I generally disagree. But I've always been of the view that Davis grants a lot more authority to his staff than he's given credit for. In fact, I've argued that their recent mess (over the last seven years) is caused more by Davis' lack of involvement. But I'm really tired of the argument.

Calico, I agree that Campbell should be given EVERY chance to succeed. I also believe that the Raiders put Campbell ahead of Gradkowski because they share your concern that he's injury prone.

Any change during the season, so long as the Raiders are competitive, should only be made naturally through injury. If that happens, however, it is my belief that Gradkowski may never relinquish the job.

This is part of what makes a season interesting, whether your team is winning or not.

But with Campbell and Gradkowski, we have two completely different NFL QB approaches. Campbell is a prime example of the type of QB Jon Gruden prefers. A QB who comes to work every day, commands the huddle, doesn't make mistakes, and stays with the play as called until the whistle. Gradkowski is the type of QB who fits more into the Raider traditional role. He avoids mistakes, but reacts to what he sees on the field, willing to step outside the play (on occassion) and improvise - always looking for a weakness.

Campbell plays it cool and calm, almost never getting rattled. Gradkowski is a gunslinger, fired with emotion.

With all of that said, since Gradkowski played last season I've had the feeling that what the Raiders really need is an emotional leader. Grad fits that bill, and Campbell does not.

But I still agree that as things are, Campbell must stay in place unless clearly beaten by Grad, or Campbell gets injured. QB controversies can be very, very destructive.

8:26 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Gary...

Totally understand the "Second Wind"...

I got mine by trolling around other boards where fans were talking more angry than disappointed and how the rest of the AFCW is so weak that in reality this is only 1 of 16 and we weren't going undefeated anyway...

It very well may have been the toughest team on our schedule where before I would have listed Indy in that position...But looking at Indy now they don't look as tough or as healthy as before...

Another point is the rookie "C" play that contributed to our demise shouldn't be as great an issue this week as last...Nor in the future for that matter as they have time to develop together...

Also of note the rest of the AFCW have yet to meet Tenn on the field so likely that will count in our favor too...At least than I will be rooting for them...

Meanwhile the entire NFCW looks even weaker than anticipated with the results from "SadFran"s game against the "SeaChicken"s...

Third Down Efficiency 1/15 - 6%

So in fact we may have found more reason to celebrate than to cry...But of course...The criers will always find a way...

PantyRaider...Catch-en My Second Wind!!!!/_

8:28 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"BR"-n-"CJ"...

While I agree with you to a point I also disagree this week if we are not productive against a team like the "Lamb"s due to poor play at "QB"...Protection problems aside "JC" needs to find a way to get to his "WR"s consistently while still being productive with his "RB"s -n- "TE"...

As I see it now there is not really going to be any excuse what so ever not to have control of this contest and dominate a team like the "Ram"s...Anything short of that is an alarm going off in my scull...It shouldn't even be close unless our "D" totally collapses too...

PantyRaider...Tacking Dummies The Field!!!/_

8:39 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"CB"-"TE"-"WR" likely out while "RB" banged-up...

That's what we face against the Lamb"s...Now if we can't get real healthy this week something is terribly wrong in OakTown...

8:46 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Raiders Favored 3.5-4...

8:51 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

One of the things that the Raiders Sunday performance will insure is that it will be a very sparse crowd at the Raiders home opener. Virtually every team has reported difficulty selling tickets this year - because of the economy. But losing certainly doesn't help. Folks suffering will want their favorite sports team to cheer them up. The Raiders have a lot of work to do.


Regarding Campbell leaning back before the snap on passing plays - this hasn't been shown to be a consistent problem with Campbell, and I suspect it was largely due to working with Veldeer in a game, essentially for the first time.

9:10 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"BR"...

Could he have been doing something physical to help single to the rookie "C" it was time to give the ball...If so it's a shame that wasn't diagnosed earlier before gametime....

PantyRaider...Nothing Like Shootin Yourself In The Ass!!!/_

9:14 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

If the Raiders are scared to put Grad in because "he might get hurt", he shouldn't be on the roster. Who keeps a QB for fear he might get hurt? Just another absurd statement. Is it because they fear the O-line is so bad that they think "little" Grad will get killed? So Al won't have to pay for his death benefits?

Just another diversion from the fact Al Davis is starting the wrong Qb. Campbell hasn't done SQUAT, he deserves NOTHING. Grad has shown he is the leader, HE is the starting Qb, but not in Raider world.

JONES

9:16 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

This article makes some good points about last Sunday's game.

The Raiders' coaching was equal to their play on the field. Some real head scratchers are well presented.

http://tinyurl.com/3ahr5r5

But I'm sure this author is just another "crier" that has no idea.

9:20 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Jones - if we can nurse Schilens through two seasons and Nick Miller through an entire season, why wouldn't we keep a china doll QB?

Perhaps Campbell is so durable because he takes the safety-slide on a scramble instead of fighting for the first down marker... Something Gradkowski does without hesitation.

9:26 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

I thought Huey was a Highly touted OC? According to the "crew" all offseason, he was going to really whip the O into shape. That writer also blames the coaches for personel moves. AHHHH, he is wrong. He blames the coaches for schemes, AHHHH wrong. We all know why Huff plays, why DHB plays, why Campbell is the starter, why the Raiders have played this Defense almost exclusively since the SIXTIES. We all know why the Defense never blitzes during the Reg season. Warren Sapp said it quite clearly on NFL network. Al slashes the coaches gameplans on Friday and the team has to learn the "new" gameplan. Deflates the team because they know there chances just got slashed. It's insane, it really is.

JONES

10:00 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

A Week-by-Week Look Ahead...

Rams
"O"-#14
Pass-#10
Rush-#24

"D"-#27
Pass-#26
Rush-#19

Cards
"O"-#6
Pass-#7
Rush-#14

"D"-#19
Pass-#23
Rush-#9

Texans
"O"-#10
Pass-#30
Rush-#1

"D"-#31 Tie
Pass-#32
Rush-#2

Chargers
"O"-#4
Pass-#4
Rush-#15

"D"-#4
Pass-#2
Rush-#27

49ers
"O"-#24
Pass-#15
Rush-#29

"D"-#6
Pass-#12 Tie
Rush-#6

Bronkos
"O"-#9
Pass-#6
Rush-#20 Tie

"D"-#15
Pass-#12 Tie
Rush-#26

Seahawks
"O"-#27
Pass-#20 Tie
Rush-#26

"D"-#9
Pass-#18
Rush-#3 Tie

Chiefs
"O"-#29
Pass-#31
Rush-#5

"D"-#29
Pass-#29
Rush-#18

Bye Week........

Steelers
"O"-#11
Pass-#16
Rush-#4

"D"-#13
Pass-#22
Rush-#6

Dolphins
"O"-#19
Pass-#20-Tie
Rush-#8 Tie

"D"-#1
Pass-#4
Rush-#5

Chargers
"O"-#4
Pass-#4
Rush-#15

"D"-#4
Pass-#2
Rush-#27

Jaguars
"O"-#17
Pass-#20 Tie
Rush-#7

"D"-24
Pass-#27
Rush-#11 Tie

Bronkos
"O"-#9
Pass-#6
Rush-#20 Tie

"D"-#20 Tie
Pass-#12 Tie
Rush-#26

Colts
"O"-#1-Tie
Pass-#1
Rush-#31

"D"-#23
Pass-#3
Rush-#32

Chiefs
"O"-#29
Pass-#31
Rush-#5

"D"-29
Pass-#29
Rush-#18

Aside from twice against the "Chief"s this week's game is the weakest match-up we have left to face...

PantyRaider..."StatBoy" Strikes Again!!!!/_

10:07 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Never has so much energy been expended into gathering and reporting completely meaningless information.

Week 1 stats.

10:58 AM  
Anonymous gary said...

>>>>

But I still agree that as things are, Campbell must stay in place unless clearly beaten by Grad, or Campbell gets injured. QB controversies can be very, very destructive.
>>>>

JMAC answered the question I wanted asked in saying he hasn't heard any grublings favoring Gradkowski from the players... and also pointed out he had two nearly perfect drives vs the starters in two practice games... so hopefully the Tenn game was an aberration.

We shall see on Sunday... if he looks as horrible against a suspect Rams defense... especially if they are worried about McFadden after his good game... I am not going to have much patience with him.

2:06 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Ask a Redskins fan if he thinks it was just an aberration. He'll tell you that he has seen it before. Question: Would you want the Qb controversy now, or at the half way point when the season is close to over? Didn't we just see that movie last year?

I want full out, best talent and playmakers on the field, no more wait and see till midseason and hope it works out. Wait and see on DHB, Dmac, Bush, Henderson, Campbell, Mitchell, Routt, Huff. Every year, it's wait and see, there is no time for wait and see, it's get it done time. This 11 year plan is just too long.

JONES

3:32 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"Week 1 stats".

Well just get use to it Baby because they will be here adjusted for every damn week until the season ends or we make the "PO"s in which case new one's will be added...

As it is there are only 15 and that # will dwindle week by week down to only one so count your blessings this will be the longest list you have to stare at with all that animosity...

PantyRaider...Damn Glad You Got To See It!!!!/_

5:36 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

09/15/2010 Waived WR Yamon Figurs; Re-signed T Erik Pear

Well obviously NO "Scholarship" was there but the adverse will always be approached with fondness...

Gallery’s status the most precarious for Rams...Damn Hammy!!!...

Running back Michael Bush was in “full participation” mode, which means there’s a chance he could play against the Rams _ 20 days after surgery on his left thumb.

That "Two Headed Monster" is about to show it's fierceness and I doubt the "Lamb"s know how to deal with it...On the other hand we may not need it so save the showcasing until a difficult match-up presents itself...

Week 5...."SD"
"D"-#4
Pass-#2
Rush-#27


Signs of the right attitude...

“We have to go out there and earn it. We have to fight for what we want.’’

– Cable warned that all the Raiders ills have not been caused by the offensive line.

However he didn't give any other clear-cut examples of why we sucked...Well I guess we can't blame the "OL" for fumbled returns or getting gashed by the run...


Sense I have no way to post this bar-graph I will just post the url...It's a crying same I can't make "NRY" cry threw "CyberSpace" but Oh! Well!..Find another way...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010091910/2010/REG2/rams@raiders#tab:analyze

PantyRaider...Endlessly Pounding the Stats!!!/_

6:27 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Week Two AFCW Projections...

"Swuaw"s get "Dog-Bit"....Swallowed in the "Dawg-Pound"....

Favored by 1.5-2.5pts the "Dawgs" win their 1st...


"MuleHead"s eat "Pigen Pucky"....Flying Buzzards Dive-Bomb Mules...

Favored by 3-3.5pts "MuleHead"s lose at home in their opener....


"LightningBug"s Black-Out BlackCats -or- Claws Rip Tiny Wings....

"Bug"s favored 7-8pts at home in opener but I'm thinking possible up-set here..."BlackCat"s may be better than they look on paper and "Bug"s may be worse with loss of "PB" personnel..."LT"-n-"WR"....Their high stats were in a loss to the weak-ass "Squaw"s so don't carry much merit...

PantyRaider...Raiders Reach 1-1 "500" Plateau!!!/_

8:16 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

“We have to go out there and earn it. We have to fight for what we want.’’

and? What else do you have to add Sherlock? Thank you Captain Obvious.

Question to Cable:

Why are you clapping your hands and nodding your head on the sidelines acting like everything is hunky dory when your team is getting their collective heads bashed in?

I'm tired of all the "coach-speak", slogans, and ridiculous t-shirts, and stating of the obvious.

The Raiders came out unprepared, flat, passive, and confused vs. Tennessee. They didn't execute in any phase of the game ... offense, defense, special teams, tackling, blocking, etc.

All the quotes, articles, stats between Mon. and Sat. are completely meaningless. The only thing that truly counts is the performance on the field on Sundays.

9:08 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

So Gradkoski is injury prone. That is total BS.

What Qb is not prone to injury playing behind the Raiders 0-line ?

Gradkowski is the best Qb on the Raiders roster, and he should start. It's that simple.

But with the Raiders, it's never that simple.

Just win baby ? I don't think so.

Too much nonsense gets in the way.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Here's a stat I just saw...In Tom Cable's 29-game tenure as head coach of the Raiders, the team has scored just one offensive touchdown or less in 22 of those games. Proceed.

9:38 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

So...Were those stats including the preseasons or just regular season when it counts....Ha! Ha!....

You didn't define your account....

So In Other Words...Making it very simple...

"CJ"-n-"RT"....

Don't talk nice about these suck-ass Raiders...No posting of anything possibly positive on this here board...

"Doom-n-Gloom" shall always dominate here...

But on one point I'll agree...

"The only thing that truly counts is the performance on the field on Sundays."

Very damn true so now as that relates to the front office I'll just accept that....NO one in that damn front office is ever carrying the ball or throwing it or catching it NOR does anyone not on the roster ever miss a damn tackle...

PantyRaider....Stop Encouraging While I'm Depressing!!!/_

10:57 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

"Doom-n-Gloom" shall always dominate here..."

Yeah, but only as the facts present themselves.

Even after the total beat down last Sunday, we're supposed to sing and cheer?

As Calico said, this team was unprepared. That's unacceptable after having the entire offseason to get ready for one game.

And to say the front office isn't responsible because they don't carry the ball is like saying Bin Laden isn't responsible for destroying the World Trade Center because he didn't fly the planes.

Fact is, the Raiders had seven years to prepare for that game, and they blew it. They couldn't even field a competitive effort.

Shameful. And shame on you for patting them on the back and enabling more failure.

5:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When your Head Coach's supposed area of expertise (OLine) is one of the weakest parts of your team, it doesn't give you a sense of confidence.

CJ

7:20 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Raiders brought back Pears because Gallery looks to be out on Sunday. (Three players with hamstring strains in one week... do they even have a trainer? Isn't that preventable?)

You want to see something scary? Take a look at the Raiders' depth chart for O-line.

With Gallery out, it could get worse before it gets better... if that's even possible.

And I read that the Rams blitzed often against the Cards.

If the Raiders are as scared of Steven Jackson as they were of Chris Johnson, expect another read-and-react performance by the D. If they blitzed at all against TN, I didn't see it.

On the flip side, Rams threw the ball over 50 times, leaving the door open for more blitzing (Please Al?).

8:14 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

"If they blitzed at all against TN, I didn't see it."

TN passed a total of 17 times. 7 of those were rollouts. That leaves a total of 10 plays subject to a blitz. Not all of those were blitzable because a few were quick release passes on short patterns.

You didn't see any blitzing this week because is was rarely appropriate.

8:34 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

You didn't see any blitzing because Al doesn't want it.

JONES

8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to general knowledge, in the minds of every NFL fan of a losing team, the BY FAR best player on the squad is the Backup QB and nobody else.....

Jeez, how long are you guys watching this game? TEN beat us fair and square in a hostile environment in the very first game of the season starting a Rookie as a center who did not play the position since high school and all you can come up with is "Fire the Management!" and "Start Gradkowski, bench JaMarcus Campbell!".

Morons.

9:06 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Ano moron....Grad has shown he owns the Offense, it's not a knee jerk reaction. The management has shown over a long period of time to be weak. I think you are the moron for not knowing what is ailing the team. Go back to your comic books and cartoons, you know ZIP.

JONES

9:24 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Campbell. He's a by-the-numbers QB, who doesn't turn the ball over. In fact, by-the-numbers, he's a better QB than Gradkowski.

But Gradkowski has an intangeble leadership quality that sparks the players around him, and makes things happen.

Personnally, I think that Grad is probably more suited to lead the team right at the moment. Unforntunately, Gradkowski took himself out of the competition early with a string of injuries. Cable wanted a decision made on the QB before Grad became available, so Campbell was named starting QB. And it doesn't help a team at all to play musical QBs.

Pulling Campbell after one game would look like panic, and adversely effect the team. They have to stick with Campbell until he's clearly beaten out by Gradkowski or until Campbell gets injured.

This kind of thing DOES NOT represent poor or weak management. Virtually evey intelligent team in the NFL would do it the same way. That is, except for the teams that continually rotate QBs and miss the playoffs. - Like we've been for the last seven years (Gannon, Collins, Brooks, Walter, Tui, Culpepper, McGown, Russell, Gradkowski, Frye, Campbell).

10:36 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

In further defense of the Raider management, they can fairly argue that they don't just suspect that Grad is injury prone. They know he is injury prone. Over the course of three starts, rehab and off season workouts, he was injured over protracted periods TWICE.

Okay, so you argue any QB can be inured behind our OL. Well, the OL had NOTHING to do with Grad's pec tear. He did that all on his own, lifting weights. Further, Grad is the most mobile QB we have (other than Frye, who is injured) and gets the ball away quicker as well. He should be the least injured of all our QBs.

The feeling of the Raider management is fairly clear. Their concern about Grad's durability is also reflected by the fact they even have a qualified starter as their number three. They anticipate the possibility that if Campbell goes down, Gradkowski might shortly follow.

At this point Gradkowski will have to prove his durability. The management already knows he can move the team. But shuffling QBs every couple of weeks will get them NOWHERE.

10:48 AM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

The signing of Pear indicates that they believe Gallery will likely be out this week. That's really bad news because I think that Gallery helps to keep Veldeer grounded.

The fact that they released Figurs tends to indicate that they expect the return of either Bush or Schilens for this game. Schilens was still on crutches at the start of the week, but Bush was fully participating yesterday. If Bush can play, McFadden can cover the lost receiver's position when needed.

The biggest concern is Gallery. With a struggling offensive line, he's needed.

10:58 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Prove his durability? Too Funny, how do you do that? By playing, maybe? A guy got injured twice WOW, it happens. Look at Bush, his leg broken, now his hand is broken, is he injury prone in your eyes?

Doesn't mean he is injury prone. You don't keep players on the roster if you "KNOW" they are injury prone, that just doesn't make any sense.

"We better not play that guy, he's injury prone, we'll just keep him on the bench and let him hang out with the guys".

Grad proved his worth at the end of last year and during the preseason, again, for those who can see past "management". Why do you feel the need to "defend mangement"?

JONES

11:53 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Ahhh, Cambell fumbled twice and threw a pic.

Keeping the wrong Qb as the starter is better than "showing panic" and switching? So out of trying not to embarrass yourself, you keep trying with the #2 Qb? That makes no sense.

The TEAM PLAYS FOR GRAD, they know it. They showed it last year and they showed it again in preseason. Playing Campbell is just another demoralizer for the team. This is very basic and wondering what others are thinking is the exact thing wrong with the Org. Head Office cares what they look like to others (ego) instead of getting the job done, be damned what others think.

Balanda, you really do mirror the Raiders, it's uncanny.

JONES

12:01 PM  
Blogger BlandaRocked said...

Hey, JONES. Time to wake up and join the party. Not one Raider player is asking for the insertion of Gradkowski. Nice of you to decide for them what they want, but I really don't think they care what you think.

And it's nice to hear that you think I'm just like the Raiders. I suppose that means that you're a die hard Blanda fan as well.

12:15 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

You wished I was your fan, I'm not a fan of the way the Raiders do business or you. That was the aspect I was comparing you to. But of course, you even screw that up.

And why would any of the players be speaking about it? It would be "in house", but you screw that up as well.

Actions speak louder than words there Grandpa, actions have shown loud and clear what it is. Both you and Al have screwed that up too. All we are asking...is for competent management...sing along Balanda....All we are asking./...is for.....SING you management defenseman.

JONES

12:27 PM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Here is my world view, and it is not specific to the Raiders:

I believe that the results of any organization/company over a sustained period are a direct reflection of the state of upper management, ie: those at the top.

That is just my belief, based on personal observation. I do not believe that poor management at the top ever produces good results over a sustained period. Conversely, I don't believe that great management produces poor results over a sustained period.

So when the Raiders turn it around and produce good results over a sustained period, I will be the first to applaud the upper management. When this will happen remains to be seen.

12:42 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Anon is just tuning in. He/She thinks Sunday in TN was the Raiders' first game. Yeah, first game this year, with the same exact results of the past seven years. It demonstrated their complete failure to compete.

The Raiders couldn't have been more unprepared.

BR said: "Gradkowski took himself out of the competition early with a string of injuries."

Do you really believe that? Huh?

Campbell became the starter when he became a Raider. Gradkowski's injury put him in competition for the #2 spot, which he held once Campbell was traded for.

And to suggest Grad doesn't start because he is injury-prone is insane. We keep a roster full of injury-prone players.

Maybe Cable can just set up a game of checkers on the sideline for McFadden, Bush, Schilens, Nick Miller and Grad. Cable should keep his best players healthy for the second half of the season when we're battling for a draft slot.

Which leads me to Schilens. Once again, he will not see the field until the Raiders season is practically decided, if at all.

How is that not a management problem?

Stop making excuses. Just admit there are more questions than answers.

This week is a must win game. Will the Raiders show up?

2:04 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

Hey Robert Gallery is injured again.


Does this mean he is injury prone ??

Better sit his ass on the bench next to Gradski.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Injury prone and actually being injured are 2 separate issues.

Schilens is injury prone and currently injured.

Ski might be considered injury prone but he currently is healthy.

The Head Coach should decide who sees the field based on performance and health status but ultimately who gives his team the best chance to succeed.

I will say that in the case of a QB it is a little more complex and other circumstances definitely come into play. To yank your starting QB after 1 week of play IMO is rash and unsound.

5:50 PM  
Blogger nyraider said...

Yeah, I get the QB thing, but what did the Raiders see in Figurs to have him returning kickoffs and punts Week 1, only to cut him before the second game?

Isn't that like a depth chart in reverse?

6:06 PM  
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6:47 PM  
Blogger x said...

Future Raider GM:
Kenny Williams
Or does he lack an NFL bloodline?

6:49 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

Have you read anything about Kenny Williams? Doesn't look like much of an upgrade.

JONES

8:05 PM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"To yank your starting QB after 1 week of play IMO is rash and unsound"

So after all the futility, making a roster move that is "rash and unsound" comes into the equation? Maybe the Raiders need a few "rash" moves, status quo ain't cutting it.

After the team lays an egg week 1 of what is supposed to be "turning the corner"...MAKE THE MOVE, shake'em up and show them that WINNING is top priority. START THE QB THAT SHOWS HE IS THE LEADER.

Keeping a Qb in because it doesn't look right pulling him out, on a team that has been brutal for years. IF the team was run properly, Grad would be the starter. PUT HIM IN COACH (Al).

JONES

8:14 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Jones:

I hear what you are saying and I'm just as (a) frustrated (b) disappointed (c) pissed off (d) all of the above.

However, I disagree with pulling the rip cord on Campbell after 1 game.

In my mind, that is a panic move that isn't justified. My viewpoint will evolve with the information on hand. IMO, 1 game is way too small of a sample size to make this kind of change. It has nothing to do with perception and everything to do with giving Campbell a reasonable chance to prove his mettle.

I know I'm not going to change your mind so we will just have to agree to disagree ... for now.

After Sundays game with the Rams, a very winnable game at home, we will all have a much better idea about Campbell and the Raiders team as a whole.

Does the team adjust or lay another egg? Do they come out flat again or come out swinging? Is Campbell dazed and confused or rock solid?

We shall all see ...

9:48 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

"Bin Laden isn't responsible for destroying the World Trade Center"

I prolley agree with that...Show your proof that he is because to date I have never seen one solitary shred of evidence linking him to anything except as hired by our US Government...But maybe a double agent with the rest of his royal oil family...Unless of course you believe all that make believe "WMD" hype -n- doctored vids of a right handed man wearing a gold wedding ban which was contrary to his life to begin with being a left handed Islamic extremest...

So now back to football...

The point was "NYR" that "CJ"s own words so stated the obvious and I was merely agreeing while pointing our the foolishness of the continued attempts to "Censor" the comments of ownership/"HC"s-n-Fans while allowing all negative tripe to be propagated on this board at will that comes from some "Mediot" -or- Disgruntled Posters...

Now moving on again....

Anno Posted Morons....9:06 AM

Right On Bro but wait just a moment here...Now that I look at it your writing seems remotely familiar...Ah!....Did you not know that the "Double" quot is used to bracket the 'Single' within itself and .... is acceptable when showing a segment of a statement has not been posted and furthermore that POSING IN ALL CAPS is the stupidity of a weak mind attempting to haler at someone...

Now ya see I misuse the English language as much as possible and some "JERK" has attempted to copy that trait and said "JERK" is also a known "SHADOW POSTER" so this brings me to the question of "JUST WHO THE HELL ARE YOU"...

Please confirm your identity...

That damn idiot might be arguing with himself...

Now movin on again...

Here I have to agree with "CJ" that it's worthwhile to wait-n-see this week before jumping to conclusions in any direction so early...

I will again post as before that if in fact the Raiders play remotely like their 1st half performance last week we can all start crying right along with "NYR" because there will be NO evidence that we can compete against the stronger competition on our schedule...

However...I also don't in the slightest expect this team to take another "Crap" on the field like that...The only "Terd's that will be seen are those kicked out of the damn "Lamb"s butts and than all the rest of the "Little Shitty VocaBlilly" can get flushed right along with all that damn habitual crying back to that "Filthy Shitty Stanky Abyss" from which it erupted...

Now wouldn't that be damn nice...A whole damn week without crying...Do any really believe that's at all possible here...

I da Ka-Nowe but tune in next week for another episode of....

PanthRaider...Well I Just Won't Go There...Yet!!!/_

1:13 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Jackson can play in Week 5 if he’s traded

"WR" Height:6-5 Weight:230 "PB"er

SAN DIEGO (AP)—San Diego Chargers holdout wide receiver Vincent Jackson can play in Week 5 if he’s traded by next Wednesday, the NFL and the players union decided Thursday.

Marcus McNeill "OT" "PB"er
Height:6-7 Weight:336

He is mentioned but not listed as "Trade Bait"....Yet....

In other news...

Well I hope your all pleased with yourselves for picking on "Stupid Mario" the way we have...Whoops!...Am I guilty! Man!...Well...I'm just going to shrink back in denial for a few...Why the hell not it certainly works for some of you...


"Stupid Mario" conceded he probably shouldn’t listen to all the criticism and take it to heart.

I’ve just got to block out that negativity. It’s tough, though. I ain’t going to lie. It’s tough, man.’’

Henderson’s sensitivity to outside criticism has been a regular topic of conversation.

you can get caught up in this stuff to the point where it will control you emotionally.

“He and I have spent a lot of time talking about staying away from that.’’


So see what you have done...Now I'm damn glad I just enable him to be all he hasn't been...

Did I post yet about that "OT" in "SD"....Oh! Ya!...It's up already...

Now where was I...

PantyRaider...Denial Over Confusion -or- Confusion Over Denial!!!/_

2:09 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

PR -

You couldn't have taken that Bin Laden analogy more out of context. In your world, Bin Laden, Charles Manson and OJ Simpson are all innocent, and the Earth is flat.

5:18 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

In the "Context" of "OJ"s trial "Charles Manson" was driving the get away car when "Bin Laden" was seen planting bloody gloves flat down on the ground....Now how the hell did you get that corkscrewed to believe the "Earth" is still "Flat"....

Damn you can twist some shit....But is that why you have "Stanky Fingers"....

Just how the hell does that relate to what the Raiders are going to do to those sweet soft little cuttingly "Lamb"s....

Oh!...Now I get's it!!!...

PantyRaider...Visions Of Bin Bending That JackAss!!!/_

5:58 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Minus the 76yd "TD" and this is what's left according to....

Steve Corkran Oakland Tribune

Johnson averaged a pedestrian 2.5 yards on his 26 other carries. Twenty of Johnson's 27 carries went for 4 yards or fewer. Of those 20, 10 failed to net more than 1 yard.

But that was followed up with these stats dating back to "02"...

Tear/Yds per Game/Rank/Ave.

2003 156.9 32nd 4.6
2004 125.8 22nd 3.7
2005 128.1 25th 4.0
2006 134.0 25th 4.0
2007 145.9 31st 4.8
2008 167.1 31st 4.7
2009 155.5 29th 4.5
2010 205.0 31st 5.3

Now how the hells does a "Mediot" get away with posting this "Stats" crap while NOT getting bashed by this "Board of Censors"....

Why!...I just wont have it!!!...

"Steve...You are an idiot...Your damn stats mean absolutely noting and are a waste of time"...

PantyRaider...Ya!...I Told Him Real Good Didn't I...Huh! Huh! Huh!...

6:58 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

NFL Network
Four teams have been linked to Vincent Jackson

Taking everything into account, that’s four teams — the Rams, Redskins, Seahawks and Vikings — known to have some link to Jackson.

Well..Could we get involved in a 3-way again like when we went after Jay "Who Want's Him" Schroeder..."SD"s "LT" went threw us that time and we should have kept him instead of that dumb "QB"...

Than there is that "PB" "OT" now holding out...Do you want'em...

PantyRaider...What Would You Sacrifice!!!/_

7:07 AM  
Anonymous JONES said...

"PantyRaider...What Would You Sacrifice!!!/_"

The "crew".

JONES

10:15 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

I arrive back in USAirSpace on the 22nd and plan to make 2 games while staying in my RV…Weeks #4-5...Maybe week #6 is also doable in "SadFran"...

My Week #2 Prediction...What's Yours...

Final Score 12-19...

Our "D" will score in this one twice...1st off an "Int" and 2nd with the "S" after "ST"s pins them deep against their own goal.....So 9 points are accumulated as a result of our "D"s much improved play....

The "O" will struggle at times but move the ball well on the ground finding the endzone once and setting our "ST"s up for the goal posts too so accounting for 10 pts....

Meanwhile the "Lamb"s will move the ball well on the ground and threw the air but get stuffed in the RedZone so held to 4 "FG"s with a 5th one blocked/missed...

See...Bet ya all thought I was predicting a Raider loss when ya saw 12-19 but the visitor's score gets posted 1st and home team 2nd....

"Lamb"s @ Raiders 12-19 as they lose....

Raiders.......vs.........."Lamb"s
"O"..#22.................."D"..#27
Pass #25..................Pass #26
Rush #5 Tie -w- "KC"......Rush #19

"D"..#21.................."O"..#14
Pass #5...................Pass #10
Rush #31..................Rush #24

PantyRaider...Oh! No! Not Those Stats Again!!!!/_

10:48 AM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Oh!...I Forgot...

We will have one long “TD” pass called back by the damn "Zebra"s on some “BS” holding call…That one would have been "DHB"s….Our drive will stall and we punt…

PantyRaider...How Can I Ever Forget Those Damn "Zebra"s!!!!/_

11:02 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

If we lose our home opener to a team with a rookie QB that has lost 26 of its last 27 games, then I will conclude that our season is probably dead on arrival.

Let's hope that doesn't happen. It can't happen, right?

11:24 AM  
Blogger nyraider said...

DOA - like the seven seasons before it.

12:30 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Damn…All that cash at the expense of the fans but they would all slap us in the face and walk/lock out…

Put The “BillBoards” Back Up Across This Nation We Need To Start Fighting NOW!!!!/_

“BillBoards” should advertise a “Million Man March” of the fans in our team colors showing solidarity against any plans the NFL-n-NFLPA may have of disrupting our sport…Stating that we will totally boycott any and all replacement teams and continue such actions against the NFL even after the teams retake the field if our season is disrupted…

Pre-Posting of the warning via the Web now to unify the fans and get that message out to the networks/advertisers who pay the bills off our backs…

PantyRaider...This Keeps Failing To Post!!!!/_

7:12 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Than it shows up backwards...What up with "CyberSpace"...

7:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn…All that cash at the expense of the fans but they would all slap us in the face and walk/lock out…

Put The “BillBoards” Back Up Across This Nation We Need To Start Fighting NOW!!!!/_

“BillBoards” should advertise a “Million Man March” of the fans in our team colors showing solidarity against any plans the NFL-n-NFLPA may have of disrupting our sport…Stating that we will totally boycott any and all replacement teams and continue such actions against the NFL even after the teams retake the field if our season is disrupted…

Pre-Posting of the warning via the Web now to unify the fans and get that message out to the networks/advertisers who pay the bills off our backs…

PantyRaider...This Keeps Failing To Post!!!!/_

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Test Post...

Something be going down bad in the long distance "CyberSpace" BlogingSphere....My "HyperDrive" must be leaking because I crashed -n- burned on re-entry....

PantyRaider...Lost In Space!!!/_

8:17 PM  
Blogger PantyRaider said...

Well damn that flight made it threw the "Federation Blockade" now I wonder if this one will...

PantyRaider...I Feel A Presence I Haven't Felt Sense.....(Laboring Loud Breathing)!!!/_

8:21 PM  

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