Saturday, September 09, 2006

For The Bulletin Board

Here's a note I just received from a Chargers fan via email, which was creatively titled RAIDERS SUCK:

YOUR WEAK TEAM WILL LOSE BY NO LESS THAN 17 POINTS ON MONDAY…THANK YOU COME AGAIN….MAYBE IN THE NEXT DECADE YOU CAN CATCH UP TO THE CHARGERS.

Here is my reply:

All I can say is that in this decade, the 2000s, the Raiders have been to two AFC Championships and one Super Bowl, while the Chargers have been to no AFC Championships and no Super Bowls.

Parting shot:

The Chargers started off this decade by going 1-15, followed by 5-11, followed by 8-8, followed by 4-12. They've won the AFC West once in this decade, after which they promptly lost to the Jets in a wild card playoff. Meanwhile, the Raiders have won the AFC West three times in this decade, and have won four playoff games.

But Chargers fan, in his infinite wisdom, hallucinates an alternate reality in which the Chargers have dominated the AFC West and have actually earned bragging rights without having won a single playoff game in this decade.

74 Comments:

Anonymous horsecollarjack said...

Bottom line: We'll leave it all on the field on Monday... Baby-boy Powder-blue blood all over the field. ;-)

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dolt fans generally have no self esteeme and are obssessed with the Raiders. "Notice me Raiderfan!"
Pathetic little fags...

Blackened

12:20 PM  
Anonymous Kevin said...

I hate the Chargers almost as much as the Chiefs and Broncos. And I find that telling: Our rivalry with the Chargers is pretty one-sided. the spend way more time thinking about us than we do them. And it's no wonder. It must be pretty demoralizing to have roughly as many Raider fans cheering in the San Diego stands.

It's sad really.

1:07 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

I think Raider Greg at Raider Nation Podcast said it best when he said the following ...

Charger Fan ... "Can't say a thing, when you ain' got no bling" in other words .... Win a Super Bowl or shut your pie hole!

Now that's bringing it Raider Greg. Bravo. Let's face it, if your trophy case is completely bare, you are going to have a bad case of Raider-envy. Deal with it Dolts.

1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BODY-BAGS" "BODY-BAGS" is the cry Monday night! Plant their ass in the turf!

SD-Sorry Dolts are the NFL training camp and the Raiders tackling dummies. If a player is good he ends up somewhere else. All that is left is the scrubs, as in Scrub Dolts.
SD-Suck-Dick!

Stupid little lightning bugs think they have enough electrical charge to sting a man??
"Show me your bolts"
Ever here of a lightning bug that could sting? The little shits can't even stay lit, flicker flicker litle bug SPLAT that's the sound hitting the face mask of a run away RAIDER.

"RAIDER KILLS" bugs dead!

Look into the crystal ball (as if you had any balls) LT will be a RAIDER in a year or two Ha! Ha!

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I don't hate the Dolts nearly as much as the Cheats, Donkeys, and Squealers. Why? Because there's no reason to - they ain't done $hit other than allow the AFC West to have four teams!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PS -> Eli Manning may not be the worlds greatest QB - but at least he's smart enough to NOT play in SD!

3:10 PM  
Anonymous raider00 said...

Nothing would make me feel better then to see the Raiders crush Rottenheimer, Rivers, & LT into dust on Monday.

However, I think this will be a very close game in the 4th quarter. We will need a little of that old Pride, & Poise magic to pull it out, and with Shell leading the way, victory will be ours...

Raiders 31 Charmers 23

5:01 PM  
Anonymous cleverly named blog name "Raiders Suck" said...

Who cares about 2000-2002? Typical Raider fan counter-argument.

But hey, I guess if you're living in 2000-2002 you're slowly catching up to the present finally?

2:12 AM  
Blogger Doobie said...

That's okay. Lyndon Larouche had some fervent followers too, but he never won anything either.

4:16 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Hey Cleverly, you're the one who brought up the "decade" question.

Speaking of ten-year periods, wasn't 1995 the last time the Chargers won a playoff game?

It's pretty easy to understand why Chargers fan doesn't want to talk about the past.

As for the present, the Chargers weren't even one of the 12 teams to make the playoffs in 2005. You might want to work on your boasting-to-accomplishment ratio

7:18 AM  
Blogger Corter said...

I was born in Oakland, and was a die-hard Raider fan growing up. When they went to LA, I lost my affection, and when I moved to SD while a Marine, I became a Charger fan. The Raiders returning to Oakland was good, but not enough to bring me back.

And sorry to say this, the traveling fan base has not helped. When the Steeler fans come to town, they do not stab anyone, afterall.

Having said that, there is no doubt the Raiders have had a more illustrious history than that Chargers. No question. Good for you. But this year, I think the Chargers will prevail. If Rivers is good enough not to lose games, then the rest of the Chargers will be enough to win them. The Raiders may surprise some of the pundits, but I really don't think they have the talent to get into the playoffs.

Enjoy your history. you should. BUt this year, it is our turn.

10:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RT,
Please delete any haters posts. They have sports blogs to discuss whose team is better than anyone elses. This should be a blog for Raiders FANS... Let the haters go to another blog to spew. If you feed a stray hater, you know what happens.

10:55 AM  
Blogger Raider Take said...

Corter, that's a reasonable take. As for this year, we shall see!

Anon, I hear you. Don't worry, I won't turn Raider Take into a haters forum.

But I think it's good sporting fun to engage our AFC West rival fans when their team is coming to Oakland. I don't want to be totally insular. We have to go on safari to hostile territory every so often. For example, I had no idea that Chargers fans were so enamored with words like "turd" and "retard." It's like NFL fan kindergarten on those Chargers boards. Very interesting.

11:32 AM  
Blogger Corter said...

Anon--I've been gone for awhile and missed all of last season. yet, because of the internet, I was connected with NFL. I started looking at other teams' boards, and it was refreshing to see the point of view from the "other side." With the Steelers, I was welcomed with open arms. I even met a Marine there whom I had given non-judicial punishment 20 years ago (I subsequently lost a bet with him on the outcome of the game.)

The idiots who come in a rant and rave, well, yes, that is a distraction. But for people who happen to root for an opposing team, what is the harm in that? I presonally like the other viewpoints, and sometimes it can be rather fun. On one of the Bronco's boards recently, there was a doggeral contest of sorts with really good verse slamming both the Bronc and the Bolts. These were well thought out and rather humorous. I laughed at both those hitting the Chargers as well as the Broncos.

This is a game, after all. I will be rooting for the Bolts tomorrow, but I can't say I am a Raider Hater.

Raider take--I agree with your point about nicknames. I was surprised at what people call the Bolts. I particularly like the poster who refers to the Chargers as the fireflies.

For the Raider Nation--in San Diego, the Raider game is the most important to us to win. This is not without reason. Since the AFL days, you have been the team to beat. We know the Chargers are just one more team on your schedule, so the rivalry is one-sided. So cut some of our fans some slack if they feel a little giddy at the thought of a winning streak against you.

But bottom line is tomorrow. We shall see what we shall see.

1:43 PM  
Blogger janfran said...

I don't mind opposing teams adding to the dialoge.
Truth be told, I didn't know that there was such a thing as a charger fan.

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Dark1 said...

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh man what a joke. he must be drinking the sewage water where all the seamen(semen) are...
I think he needs a elbow to his grill and some tweezers to measure his short cummings. HAHAHAH
after the donks and KC lost, the game for afc west tops is ours. I know th Raider haters will be gearin up after we rape Rivers on national TV.The refs will do all they can to salvage rivers cornhole. Rivers as his last name will be appropo after the dark plowage we will apply to his cracker newbage. bring ur preperation H u little boy.

6:29 PM  
Anonymous disappointed and betrayed said...

Corter,
As a Marine myself I guess while you were being broken and rebuilt you got afflicted with being a Charger fan. Nobody is perfect...
I respect you as a fellow Marine, but if you were really a true Raider fan you would have never changed sides....
Of all the division rivals of the Raiders how could anyone ever be a charger fan?!!! They suck anchor algae. Did you get your helemt polished by a charger slut so well u became a turncoat? I have fucked several of those loose fairweather sluts but never well enough to turn my back on the silver and black. Man I am truly disappointed you even have the gall to express yourself. You seem to have lost the concept of loyalty. A Marine never turns his back on his family or his country. I guess in San D they dont instill those qualities. Have fun betraying your roots. (good thing I went to Parris Island)

7:02 PM  
Blogger Calico Jack said...

Corter -
How does a guy born in Oakland who claims he was a die-hard Raider fan lose his affection for his team? So what if the team moved to L.A. I don't quite follow that logic since most of the Raider Nation is comprised of people from around the world who never even lived in Oakland. BTW, you really weren't a die-hard Raider fan if you tossed in the towel when the team moved.

I'm disappointed and surprised to hear that a former Marine turns his back on his boyhood team so easily and chooses an arch rival no less. I'm also a former Marine (1988-1992) and you are the first Marine I know of who could be characterized as disloyal.

The sign of a fair weather fan is someone who changes allegiances out of convenience. You were stationed in San Diego so you changed sides to the "local" team because it was more convenient.

Should we cut some slack for a spy and traitor? I would be the first to admit that blogs are a good platform for open discussions and differing opinions. My opinion is that we don't need you sniffing around here anymore.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Corter said...

Calico Jack

I was born in Oakland, lived in Orinda before moving to the Denver area. I loved Blanda and the Raiders (also loved the Niners). I couldn't get into the Broncos, and I remained a Raider fan. When Davis took the team to LA, I couldn't stomach it. I felt betrayed. So I was teamless in the AFC.

As a Marine, I came to SD, and the Chargers treat the military well. So slowly I began following the Chargers.

I have been in the Corps for 27 years (and just got back from Iraq on Wednesday.) I have been a Charger fan for about 15 of those years. I still like the Raiders, but not to the same extent as I did before. Moving the team to LA was a betrayal, and I don't cotton to that. I have forgiven them (not that they care, for course, what I think), but while they were galavanting around in LA, I found a new AFC team.

Call me a traitor, fine. I can take it. I call moving to LA a far more traitorous move.

I still hope we have a good game. Some great plays with no one hurt would suit me fine. And if the Chargers can't win the division, well I hope the Raiders can keep Denver and KC out of the top spot.

11:50 PM  
Anonymous HOME said...

Hey Corter,
I believe in forgiveness and I hope maybe you can one day come back to your roots. The true Raider fans are still here and we welcome you back if you ever come out of your affliction. Come Home Brother... The move to LA hurt alot of people, but dont let that be the precipice of your loyalty. If you really think about it maybe your soul will show you the true way. You wouldnt be looking at this website and adding ur 2 cents if you didnt have some doubt. The Raiders are a family, drop the bolt and come home. You know deep down inside that you want to....

2:49 AM  
Anonymous Raider Nate 75 said...

Haiku: Welcome to Hell, Rivers

You came to Oakland
Looking for a victory
And left like Trent Green!

I jsut want to know if all these DunderDolt fans will come in tomorrow when the Dolts loose, and give us the props we will deserve? What do you say Corter, (un)Cleverly named?
If you think you're tough comin' in and talking smack before the game, come in tomorrow and take it when you lose!

5:55 AM  
Blogger Corter said...

Raider Nate 75

I have only been on others' boards since I went to Iraq, and yes, each time the Chargers lost (too many times, true) I came back to give my props. The Steelers' board was especially welcoming, so I went back there several times, in fact, and I had to send off my rank insignia to a member as part of a bet.

I will be back after the game one way or the other. And if the Raiders win, my hat will be off to you.

(By-the-way, "Corter" is my great-grandfather's name,a civil war vet who I rather respect. And as it is not the most common name in the world, I can usually register with it without someone else already having it. I didn't realize names had to be "clever.")

Home--yes, I still have a soft spot for the Raiders. But by the time they moved back to Oakland, I had started following the Chargers, and I could not just drop that. (And I really detest the city of LA.)

Not to get into a litany of my personal life, but my wife left me while I was gone to move in with a young salsa instructor (yes, as hokey as that sounds). Now she wants to come back, but I really am not too interested in that. This is sort of how I feel about the Raiders.

I still like the team, but the Chargers are my main squeeze. And after so many really horrible years, it is nice to be a decent team.

Let's all enjoy the game tonight and hope no one gets hurt.

11:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corter, this is "PantyRaider" and I am the one who calls the bolts Lightning bugs. Glad you liked my post. I am X-Navy, discharged 5-18-71, back in the day we called what you did "Sleeping with the enimy". There are all sorts of excuses for being a "Deserter" but the penalty remains the same, death in the time of war! As of "93" I am an officer, merchant marine captain under the US Coast Gaurd, I am in Thailand, Cambodia, Thaiwan, Korea and Japan but never forget I am American. I am embarressed by what my countries leaders do now and back when I was in, but I never went astray and slept with the enimy. I hate lies and betrayal, disloyality to the country and its constitution and yet that is what many of our countries leaders have become, the new Bullies on the block, like Hitler and Kruschov, the "Bushite Millitants" take peace away from the world. But this will not make me a deserter! What you did was only against a sport but you want to justify yourself with the fact that you are a marine so I want to let you know how shameful this conduct is. Why you you expose your saelf this way? That is totally beyond me!

5:02 PM  
Blogger Corter said...

Pantyraider--uh, I am not sure how you get the fact that I am using my military status as a reason to root for another team. I do not root for the Raiders as my favorite team because the ownership abandoned the town of my birth. If they had not left, things would be different. They abandoned me, I chose to take my allegiance elsewhere.

I was born in Oakland, but left when I was three. I lived in Mexico, LA, outside Baltimore, and outside Boston as a kid. I still kept my Raider allegiance. I was rudderless in the AFC after the move, and it wasn't until the service took me to SD that I began to form some degree of interest in any AFC team.

But if I am a traitor who deserves to die, well, so be it. I guess I cannot get into so much hate over professional entertainment. My last year showed me how cruel the world can be, and I just can't get that riled up at the fans of any sports team.

I played for the national championship in rugby quite a number of years ago. I was nervous the night before and could barely sleep. But that is because I was going to be on the pitch. For professional sports, I will enjoy the show, but it really isn't life-and-death. It is entertainment.

I am going out to get my first pizza in a year and watch the game. Win or lose, I am going to enjoy it, but I am going to sleep well tonight regardless.

(And yes, i did get a chuckle from your "lightning bugs.")

6:24 PM  
Blogger Corter said...

Well, not a real exciting game. For your sake, I hope the Raiders can get their offense together.

See you later on in the season.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous WishingYouBetterLuckNextYear. said...

The guy that wrote you and said the RAIDERS SUCK was right -- At least right now they do.

No doubt the Raider HAVE been good team and there is no dobut that one day they will be a great team once again. But right here, right now the Radiers Suck!

Raiders Fans, you'll be lucky if your team win more than 2 games this season. The time to start thinking about next season is now.

11:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corter: Don't take my referance to "Death" to seriously. It is my own strainge sence of humer, as you say you abandon the Raiders because they did some small thing that you do not like and consider to be a betrail, making yourself a Raiders deserter, betrayer, while at the same time speaking of being a marine which you are evidently proad of. So I made referance to the larger betrails that our countries leaders have made against our country and ask "Are you going to desert?" I spoke about being in Asia because the people there treat me very well and make me feel welcome and happy as the SD's do to you, but I am not going to desert. That is what "sleeping with the enemy" was, the "Kong" girls would make you feel so good and forget who you are, a deserter hideing in the out-back without honor. I am moving to Cambodia and have an apartment in Thailand but I am and will continue to be American whether I agree with the leaders of this country or not, it is my haritage. The "Raider Nation" is real and I am proad to be a citizen, win or loose, I shall never abandon them. My question is how loyal will you be to you new found friends? Just like the deserters who went to SF 49's, band-wagoners who are disloyal and go to where the winner is and jump again and again as a new winer pops up. How do you relate that conduct to being a US Marine? This is the question I presant to you.
PantyRaider---RAIDER for life!

Well now we look forward to the "Black Buzzerds of the North" and hope we can learn to get better. The Raven wont have that damnnnnn front 7 comming down our throats. Who the hell gave those FireFlies Nuclear Energy?

2:28 PM  
Blogger Corter said...

Anon--I am still an A's fan as well as a Niner fan. They never abandoned the bay area. And having gone to the Academy, I will remian a Navy fan for life.

But frankly, why should I hold any particular affinity for a commercial enterprise which abandoned its customers? The NFL is like Hollywood. It is there to produce entertainment. I didn't see "Annapolis" because I heard it sucked. Is this disloyalty to the school where I got my undergraduate degree.

I also have a condo in Pin Klao, so I know the allure of the East. I will be moving there after I retire. But I see plenty of Man U and Dallas Cowboys jerseys there. And I see Raiders fans from all over the globe as well. Just because I was born in Oakland is not reason enough for me to throw my money at the team when they left Oakland for LA (not really a "small thing," as you say.) A lot of loyal Coke drinkers went to Pepsi when Coke came out with New Coke.

You still bleed black adn silver. Great. your choice. I owe my allegiance to my family and country. Not to any commercial entity. And the NFL is a business, plain and simple. I enjoy the product, to be sure. But I do not owe blind allegiance to any team in the NFL just as I do not owe blind allegiance to Dr. Pepper, Tom Clancy novels, or Ford.

Good luck against the Ravens, though.

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