posted by Raider Take at 8:29 AM
Yup, that about says it. This team has so many issues going into the offseason, it's too depressing to contemplate.
It is not the endIt is just the beginning Al will fix it allFire Norv and CollinsEmphasize fundamentalsGet a coach like HillBuild some disciplineCut down on the penaltiesRun a tighter shipWith Moss and BurgessCommitment to ExcellenceWill be brought back here So have no worriesSilver and Black will be backStronger than everStand Raider RazaWe will be dominatingAnd making playoffs…
2 yrs ago, the Giants, & Raiders both hired new head coaches. The Giants went with a coached who preached disipline, while Al Davis found yet another Mr. Softie, players coach, Norv Turner. In the draft, the Giants made a bold trade for a young Qb, & waived their mediocre veteran Kerry Collins. The Raiders signed Collins and installed him as their latest retread Qb with a little something left in the tank. On Sat. night, the young Giants Qb, & the disipline coach walked off the field in victory. Division champs, headed for the playoffs. Meanwhile, the Raiders famous comedy team of Norv, & Kerry, walked off as losers as they have for much of their time in Oakland. I wonder if Al Davis has learned anything from this. Maybe disipline, and a young Qb are not such crazy ideas after all.
Al never learned the discipline lesson from Gruden, so I'm not optimistic.
I'm surprised Norv hasn't been whacked yet...if he gets through today he's probably staying, owing to Al's track record of listening to players [hope not]. I watched Pat Hill closely in his bowl game hoping to see NFL level game management, but came away disappointed
Lets not forget the "60's" folks...Or any losing season we have had in the last 20 years. Al will make changes, for a fact and do you think for one second Al has not contemplated over the "Last" championship in his life. You better take it to the bank........Big Al is on this organization.....Big time Heat is comming down all the way to the recpionist. Change is coming like in the past the Raiders will change for the better. We have a very good core team that just needs one or two more components to be competitive. Before the season starts I will say .500 next season just because Al will not take less. I am "Sure" Al wants to win more now than ever. He put down the serious money last year and will put it down this year. The Raiders are back in "06".
I'm a little sick of the "Coughlin is a disciplinarian" angle. The Giants were thisclose to matching the Raiders penalty for penalty this year. The Giants and their coach deserve credit because they won in spite of being undiciplined. Which is something we used to excel at because we've always had a lot of penalties, even when Gruden was here...
Although discipline and lack of penalties frequently go hand in hand, the concept of discipline is more than that...it also includes things like play execution, setting guidelines for players on and off the field, etc.
Yet Madden was anything but a disciplinarian. Has the game changed THAT much? Or has just the focus/ego/professionalisism/will-to-win of the players changed?
The game has come a long way since when the Raiders were able to just put the most physically intimidating specimens on the field and let them scare the crap out of the opponent.On a related note...it's official...Norv just got canned.
So once again we're changing coaches. Turner being fired is only good if he's replaced by a true leader. The only time Al's hired a true leader since they returned from Oakland he ended up letting walk away. I don't see Al changing how he hires this late in his life. Al's like Sinatra and has done it all his way. For a while it worked but as a result, I'm expecting someone brand new to coaching in the NFL that won't ask for too much money or authority, just the chance to coach. And if they want more than that after a few years they'll be shown the door as well.If I sound pessimistic it's because I am. Al seems to still think this game is all about a couple big time players and a baby sitter to watch over them. As someone else said, lining up the most intimidating players around and expect the other club to cower in their presence. I'd say the past decade of NFL football proves this theory wrong. If he gets Jimmy Johnson out of retirement or somehow pries a Bellichek/Gruden/Shanahan away from his enemies I'd be inclined to take a positive attitude but I don't see this happening.Fortunately I have some tapes of the Raiders glory days of the 70's and 80's, and even some of the Gruden/Gannon teams only a few years ago to help me remember why I root for this team. The sad thing is, when he hired Turner and signed Collins I think most of us knew it would end this way so it's not surprising. What's surprising is that the so called genius of Al Davis still went out and signed a mediocre QB and retread offensive coordinator. Al, if you're reading, prove me wrong. Otherwise, quit complaining about the Raiders being lowest in the league in revenue when 7 of 10 years in Oakland have at best been .500 teams.
And if you don't have old tapes, all you need is a TiVo and DirecTV. Set up an auto-record wishlist for "Raiders" and watch all the classic (but abridged) games that come up on the ESPN Classic channel. Not too often you can watch the 1976 Bears-Raiders game...or at least the old 30-minute NFL "Game of the Week" version of it.
Davis fires TurnerNow he looks for anotherMadden or Flores
The more I hear about the Al Davis press conference call, the more concerned I become. First he leaves the door open for Kerry "Crooked Arm" Collins to return. Now he says some of the assistant coaches may be back. Shouldn't the new head coach have a say in all this ?? Sounds like the same old story in Oakland. Davis will call all the key shots, while he hooks up the strings to some kiss ass puppet coach. When will this nonsense end.
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