Chiefs Postmortem Thread
Sorry I glitched out over the weekend.
How's everyone coping after we ran just 30 offensive plays and got absolutely worked by the Chiefs to hit rock bottom on the way to another lost season?
What is going on? How do we find ourselves here AGAIN?
All of these years, all of these high draft picks and trades, all of these new GM and coach regimes, and THIS is where we are at. There's one common thread and I wonder what he thinks when he wakes up on Monday mornings.
posted by Raider Take at 5:52 PM
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Sure, let's talk about a "common denominator" and say "all roads lead to Mark Davis" (which I tend to agree) but there's a crazy irony here. The Aces have won three WNBA titles since Mark Davis took ownership. So I'm pretty sure Mark wakes up in the morning patting himself on the back for that while also thinking it's someone else's fault that the Raiders are so bad.
There's another irony. Now that we've hit rock bottom (and we truly have), many believe it's time to blow up the team and start over. But isn't that kind of what Carroll did last off-season? He let 7 of 9 starters on defense go, then went into free agency and the draft and picked his team. He handpicked Geno Smith. They signed Alex Cappa! They drafted Jeanty with the #6 pick. They were gifted Brock Bowers and Maxx Crosby, and for that matter, AJ Cole and Daniel Carlson. Let's not forget, they pushed Christian Wilkins out the door, and they traded away their best CB in Jakorian Bennett. And these are Carroll's coaches (that really goes without saying).
Don't be fooled. THIS is the team Pete Carroll built.
So the question is, do we want Pete to building ANOTHER team?
I know my answer.
Take...Rock bottom ? There is no rock bottom for the Raiders. It's an endless free fall into nothingness.
Maybe there is a savior who can come along and fix it all. Maybe the Raiders "Dan Campbell" is out there somewhere. But who, where, and when, I don't know.
Right now all we have is an aged Pete Carroll. "Vanilla" Chip running the offense, and Geno "crazy arm" Smith throwing to the wrong team. Oh, and Spytek's son making our 1st round picks. We really needed a running back so badly ?
Lets not forget the ringleader, Tom Brady, part time announcer, part time Raiders "advisor". Did he advise the captain of the Titanic too ?
Last but not least, of course, is the leader of the pack, Mark Davis. His special brand of "losers touch", is all over the Raiders franchise. From his half home games where stadium is half filled with opponents fans, to his merry-go-round, circus of coaching/Gm changes.
I want to have hope. I want to believe a savior is coming. But right now, things look pretty bleak.
The Raiders only have a few difference makers---Brock, Maxx, Kolton, Jeanty. A few mid to above average that could start or play a signifact role on other teams--Stokes, Chin, JPJ, Meyers, White, Butler, Booker. Interesting youngsters with some potential include--Jonah, Tyree, Porter, Glaze. That is 15 roster worthy guys I can name off the top of my head not including Carlson and Cole. That my friends is a rebuild. I am not in favor of changing coaches or GMs and it is not fair to indict them after 7 games with that kind of roster.
Don't get me wrong coahces are to blame as well for not having the team ready for KC or Indy and Geno has looked lost. Thankfully he was signed to a "bridge" type contract so cap impications are minimal if he does nto turn it around.
However, continuity is going to be the key going forward, as much as some people rightfully critize Gruden he had the team going in the right direction and implementing a system. Guys it takes 3 years to do that. Its obvious drafting for the o-line is critical, I wonder if either of our two third round o line picks from this year see the field?
NY, we are all pissed off but don't pine for Wilkins. He was a great player but they far from pushed him out the door, he was injured and refused a second surgery. Notice no one has signed him. Bennett is not Willie Brown lol he has not played this year the Raiders won that trade.
Ghost Dan Campbell was 3-13 his first year.
Sandy
Maybe this is Mark's way of getting back at his dad and all the insults. He has fired Reggie, Musgrave, Bissaccia, AP, and soon to be incomPETEnt!
He has neglected Charles Woodson, Howie Long, Marshawn Lynch, Marcus Allen, Tim Brown, and others from investing in Raiders ownership, and has only allowed former Patriots. He wants so bad to be the Patriots that he has given away the Raiders' identity.
It's not rocket science as to how to turn the ship around. We need a coach like Bill Musgrave, who will coach to the strengths of the roster. We need a QB (we have not had one since Carr). We need CB/DBs, and play more power blocking instead of zone. Power blocking sets the tone to be aggressive, and the more aggressive team wins.
The Colts, Jaguars, Bears, Panthers, Seahawks, and Patriots have all turned it around with coaches who are coaching to the strengths of their rosters. If the Jets get a QB, they won't be a bad team either.
There are only a few system teams who are working, and that is because they have the roster to fit their system. But these teams have not won a championship in a long time: 49ers, Doncos to start. Other system teams are struggling: Raiders, Dolphins, Texans, Ravens, Arizona, and Saints.
Pete has only committed 3 years, I don't want him trading away JPJ, Crosby, Meyers, and others to build a system and leave. Give the keys to someone else like Patrick Graham, who has proven to build a defense on the strengths, and I think would be an awesome coach. I mean, for God's sake, Pete is trying to run a 3-4 defense with a 4-3 personnel! Pete and Chip look lost in everything they do. Time to move on....
Sandy, why would we expect Wilkins to sign with another team? He's under contract with the Raiders on a 4-year deal with $82M guaranteed.
Does anyone expect Pete Carroll to assemble a SB caliber team by the last year of his contract in 2027?
If not, does anyone expect that he will extend his contract at age 77? Is that what we're banking on?
If not, does anyone expect that the next regime will just step in and take over where Carroll left off? Because no other previous regime has. Virtually every HC hired has said this is not a rebuild, including Pete Carroll, then decided it was a rebuild.
Buckle up, because a rebuild right now probably means trading Maxx Crosby for draft picks.
Preach, Ghost Ship!
Sandy, the issue with the 'in a rebuild' mantra is that we've either had several failed rebuilds recently or we haven't actually actually committed to a rebuild until now, and neither of those is a good look. It means we can't get anything right, as the results confirm.
NY, I hear you on the WNBA, and Carroll must shoulder some of this, but Mark's results as CEO of an NFL speak for themselves. He's out of his depth.
Groundhog Day around here. Thinking about asking NFL Sunday Ticket for a refund!
I was very wrong about Geno. Some Raider fans got over their skis on that signing, calling him, “our best QB since Gannon,” an obvious dig at #4. Well Carr is not the type to laugh at this kind of stuff but if he were the type he’d have ample reason.
Hand in hand with Geno, I was also so wrong about Chip Kelly. I was really excited about that hire and felt a little justified after week one. But this offense doesn’t have a clue.
And finally a question. Doesn’t Maxx look skinny? Am I imagining that I heard one of the broadcasters say the new regime asked him to lose weight? If so, why? It’s not like he’s playing LB and dropping into coverage.
Put messing with Max’s weight in the same box with Jeanty’s stance, not playing JPJ at center, and other weirdness.
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