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By Season's End: My Estimate And I'm Sure ...

2011-12-16T09:17:59.638-08:00

By Season's End: My Estimate And I'm Sure I Missed A few??..158 Games Missed This Season!!

Chekwa, Chimdi CB Out…14 Games??
Eugene, Hiram FS Out…16 games…
Goethel, Travis LB Out…16 games…
Shaughnessy, Matt DE Out…16 games…
………………That’s already 62 games!!

Ford “WR”….Out….10 games/
Moore “WR” Out…3 games…
Murphy “WR” Out…10 games
Chaz “WR” Out…5 games??
Boss “TE” Out…3 games..

“D-Mac” “RB” Out 9 games??
“TJ” “RB” Out….6 games??
Reece “FB” Out…6 games??

“DVD” “CB” Out….10 games??
“CJ” “CB” Out….10 games??
Huff “S” Out….8 games??
Giordano “S” Out…2 games..
“MM” “S” out 8 games??

“JC” “QB” Out…..10 games…

Satele “C” Out 2 games..

Henderson “DT” Out 2 games…
Bryant, “DT” Out 2 games…

Jano “K” Out 2 games..
………………………………Additional 96 games…

"GB" made it to the "SB" after having 91 games missed but they did that with a veteran roster and a veteran coaching staff which we have neither...Young up and coming...Also they never lost their "QB" nor their "GodFather"...We did...

PantyRaider...It's Pure Foolishness To Discount Injuries As A Factor!!!/_

Y'all are gonna love the latest take, now up.

2011-12-16T08:33:38.091-08:00

Y'all are gonna love the latest take, now up.

Here is an additional part of the EXPLAINATION (no...

2011-12-16T08:31:30.606-08:00

Here is an additional part of the EXPLAINATION (not an EXCUSE).

When our starters first went down, their availability was somewhat of a mystery (largely because Hue plays injury info close to the vest). However, as it has become clear that opposing teams don't have to prepare for McFadden's speed, Moore's speed or Ford's speed they understand that they only need to defend against a single style of play. We are missing the "shock and awe" factor, and defenders see us coming.

Without Jones or McFadden (and Moore and Ford) Hue is trying to convert to a power running format, but that's not what we spent our training camp trying to perfect.

Calico, your insistence that injuries play no part...

2011-12-16T08:12:34.031-08:00

Calico, your insistence that injuries play no part in the success or failure of your season is just bizarre. We all knew going into this season that depth was going to be a problem and that injuries could sink us. Well, that simple prediction is simply coming to pass.

I'm thrilled that second teamers were able to carry the team to three consecutive victories. They certainly gave us a chance to stay in this thing. But the chickens are now coming home to roost, and we either have our play makers for the stretch, or we don't.

That's not an excuse. You go into the season with a 53 man roster, not a 22 man roster. It's simply reality. If we had our play makers, we'd be winning, but since we don't we're struggling.

That said, you go into the season to win it all. But expecting Bush to provide everything that McFadden provides is just stupid. Hue is in the position where he has to readjust his offensive philosophy to what the 2nd teamers can do, and you don't win by coming up with a brand new offensive philosophy in the middle of the season. The best you can hope for is to hold it together. They did for a few games, but now the warts are showing.

Plenty of teams in the history of the game have had their season derailed by injuries. A few teams have managed in spite of their injuries. But to say that injuries should never be factor is living in NaNa land.

Running out of gas definitely played a part. With...

2011-12-16T07:33:43.838-08:00

Running out of gas definitely played a part. With the lockout the supervised off season conditioning programs definitely suffered. The team looked tired.

Throw in all the travel the last two weeks and it is a recepie for disaster which is what we had.

Having said all that, it should have been incumbent on all the players to keep up the contidioning on their own. They should still be professionals inspite of any labor disputes.

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Ran Out Of Gas?? Shit happens and that's prol...

2011-12-15T23:42:30.512-08:00

Ran Out Of Gas??

Shit happens and that's prolley all this past 2 weeks is...No sense in treating it like the end of the world...

With all this team has been threw it's no mystery that things would catch up at some point and put the team into a laps...Difficult to get up and win when faced with adversity but to do it every week would be extraordinary to say the least and few teams ever have...

We're home now and the Lions are in town...Let's see how this team comes out and how they perform now before we bury them in the sand!!

PantyRaider...Too Much Left To Drown In A Bucket Of Tears Already!!!/_

Gary, You illustrated my point about each unit of...

2011-12-15T23:25:19.594-08:00

Gary,

You illustrated my point about each unit of the TEAM picking each other up and making plays when you said,

"its pretty amazing we won three in a row after losing all the players we did."

Exactly.

We beat the Chargers which in my opinion was the most complete, dominating performance to date.

We beat the Vikes by creating 5 turnovers on D and scoring 27 points on offense.

Yes. We beat Da Bears by playing excellent D and have a Special Teams bonanza.

one positive is that this game is a sellout which ...

2011-12-15T22:14:18.591-08:00

one positive is that this game is a sellout which means 7-7 this year...

gary, a gm would surely help BUT what if that GM w...

2011-12-15T22:13:15.917-08:00

gary,
a gm would surely help BUT what if that GM wanted to being in his OWN guy (coach)?

can't imaging hue picking "his own" gm...

>>> Would I rather have McFadden, Ford, ...

2011-12-15T21:27:34.307-08:00

>>>

Would I rather have McFadden, Ford, and Moore as the primary weapons vice Bush, DHB, and Shillens? Yes but there are more than enough playmakers to accomplish the goal at hand ... winning.
>>>

Well, not to mention losing our starting Qb.

Plus McFadden WAS having a NFL MVP like season until he got injured.

Look.. I agree with you in principle, but its pretty amazing we won three in a row after losing all the players we did. We ARE still in the playoff hunt.

At least I don't see people here clamoring for Hue's head like on the JMAC blog...

Like a new HC would help next year...

Ok... how do I put this any more bluntly.. if we h...

2011-12-15T21:18:24.994-08:00

Ok... how do I put this any more bluntly.. if we had a MLB that stood there like a statue in his position there would have been two less scores given up last week. STAND THERE AND LET SOMEONE RUN INTO YOU... is better than McClain.

He is the JaMarcus Russel of MLB's... there is no two ways around it...

There is no doubt that the injuries to key skill p...

2011-12-15T21:17:13.067-08:00

There is no doubt that the injuries to key skill players has had a detrimental effect on the team.

My point about "no excuses" is that as a team, we have all the tools, ability, and wherewithal to perform the tasks at hand. It is a matter of execution. Each unit needs to pick each other up and make enough plays to win.

Would I rather have McFadden, Ford, and Moore as the primary weapons vice Bush, DHB, and Shillens? Yes but there are more than enough playmakers to accomplish the goal at hand ... winning.

You rarely lose TOP battles when you give up long ...

2011-12-15T21:11:47.934-08:00

You rarely lose TOP battles when you give up long TD's to some of the worst RB's in the NFL... Just saying.

Keep players on assignment.

Our FS and MLB are NEVER in the teevee picture on long runs.

How many teams can you see this happen with?

Its almost an impossibility!

>>> DCs just can't seem to convince t...

2011-12-15T21:04:06.087-08:00

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DCs just can't seem to convince them that you make the plays within within your assignment. You don't leave your assignment to go try and make a play. It's just that simple.
>>>>

I dunno... either we have the worlds stupidest defensive players, or stupid coaches.

I think its a little of both.

Watch McClain jump to the left gap on a play going right at him to the right in short yardage... ummm well, maybe you can't coach this guy?

Thats a TD every time given up.

I agree with Corkran... run a 3-4 next year and take most of McClains responsibilities away.

He is a complete moron.. on and off the field.

Too expensive to cut.. so fill a defense scheme around him t hide his slowness and lack of IQ...

>>> Please, no more excuses. It is a disc...

2011-12-15T20:55:16.075-08:00

>>>
Please, no more excuses. It is a discredit to the fan base and the competitive spirit of the game itself.
>>>

No excuses on the defense... but there is not a team in the NFL that has lost their key offensive players (with MAYBE the exception of Hous) that isn't reeling right now.

Hell look at Chicago... lost their QB and RB and have FOUR TIMES THE DEFENSE we have and still can't eek out a win.

Its amazing this team is still in the hunt.

Please.

This isn't Madden.

The Raiders organization, Hue Jackson, and the Rai...

2011-12-15T20:14:38.263-08:00

The Raiders organization, Hue Jackson, and the Raider players aren't making excuses so why are some fans making excuses?

I agree 100% with Memdf ...

Regardless of injuries, deficiencies, tendencies, or the opponent, the team needs to make adjustments in the game planning and within the game itself.

Dink and dunk, move the chains, establish a rhythm, incorporate 2 TE sets, no huddle, trick plays, etc. and force the D to adjust to us.

Creatively use Boss, Myers, Reece, and Bush in the passing attack. If necessary, use more west coast principles with the WRs.

We might not have as much speed on the field as we normally do but there is enough speed to create dynamic plays. DHB, Shillens, and Reece have good speed. A "Big" play can be generated with proper execution and creative game planning.

Please, no more excuses. It is a discredit to the fan base and the competitive spirit of the game itself.

Scorpio I agree. More slants - or shorter quick h...

2011-12-15T18:51:31.888-08:00

Scorpio
I agree. More slants - or shorter quick hit routes. Add the kid from the practice squad to the active for another wr. Do something Hue! What gets me is the lack of creativity on O. Evident is the Bush heavy O. We know it, the other team knows it too. Hand off, hand off pass.
Or hand off, hand off, penalty, pass, penalty, pass punt...

PR said: "There's NO ONE pulling "S...

2011-12-15T15:01:07.844-08:00

PR said:

"There's NO ONE pulling "Suck Chuck"s strings here!!!."

Granted, but in addition to what Jones commented that you can't change a defense in mid-season, let's not forget that Bresnahan was grossly underqualified for the job to begin with.

I firmly believe part of AL bringing him here was that AL expected to play a role in the defense. Without AL's input, Bresnahan is now at his worst.

blanda, the alternate game plan if the speed guys...

2011-12-15T14:01:46.913-08:00

blanda,
the alternate game plan if the speed guys weren't there would have been to run shorter routes. utilize the tight ends MORE because it seeems the TE is a forgotten man in this offense - that is unless boss and/or myers can't get open. i don't look at film so i don't know. but these guys surely can get open for high percentage shorter routes. iow, use plays that don't take so long to develop. and why aren't they using ausbery or gordon more?

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2011-12-15T11:57:47.592-08:00

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"BR"... I think that's what Ro was ...

2011-12-15T11:50:02.472-08:00

"BR"...

I think that's what Ro was speaking of when he talked about trust...Or the lack of it...

Maybe guys are leaving their posts because they don't trust the others to hold up their end of the scheme...Than as a result we are in double do-do instead of just one failure...Compounded mistakes!!

Man, posting between death matches... I'm not...

2011-12-15T11:29:29.348-08:00

Man, posting between death matches...

I'm not saying that the D, under Bresnahan, has been stellar. I don't think it's the scheme, he just can't seem to get the players to stay with their assignments. That's the same old problem we've had under almost every DC since Bres' first stint with us.

We've argued over the source of the problem, but I think at this point we can pretty much agree that the problem isn't Davis.

DCs just can't seem to convince them that you make the plays within within your assignment. You don't leave your assignment to go try and make a play. It's just that simple.

Ha! Ha! Ha!...LoL!!... Hollowing was past present...

2011-12-15T11:01:43.766-08:00

Ha! Ha! Ha!...LoL!!...

Hollowing was past present 6 weeks and your still wearing your little mask???

The TRUTH!!!...Ha! ha! Ha!...LoL!!

....don't you know, we never die...

I'll find you and make sure the rest of your days are full of torment,

cause I'm coming for ya, tough guy.

JONES

As Demonic as I suspected a LIAR to be!!

Correction: Judas The "Supper Demon"!!!...

2011-12-15T10:54:39.164-08:00

Correction:

Judas The "Supper Demon"!!!

LoL!!... Not man enough in life and thinks he'...

2011-12-15T10:43:41.094-08:00

LoL!!...

Not man enough in life and thinks he's superman in death!!!

Reincarnated as a "PissAnt" no doubt!!